View Full Version : Dr. Yueh v. Dr. Baltar


Prince_James
03-27-07, 02:20 AM
Dr. Yueh from "Dune" v. Dr. Baltar from "Battlestar Galactica" in a battle of the most treasonous doctors of Science Fiction.

SPOILERS ABOUND.

Enterprise-D
03-27-07, 10:10 AM
I think Dr Baltar takes it...

Accolades to both on having great character names though!

madanthonywayne
03-27-07, 11:55 PM
Dr. Yueh from "Dune" v. Dr. Baltar from "Battlestar Galactica" in a battle of the most treasonous doctors of Science Fiction.
Dr. Yueh's betrayal was more intentional and more personal. It seems more evil.

Yet Baltar's betrayal resulted in the extermination of twelve planets worth of humans.

So he takes the prize.

spidergoat
03-28-07, 12:46 AM
I don't think Baltar intended those particular results, he was basically set up.

GeoffP
03-28-07, 12:49 AM
Yeah, but he's cooler overall.

Baltar.

orcot
03-28-07, 05:57 AM
I've seen the complete first french dubbed season (meaning from 33) No ofense with the cyclon in his head but it strikes odd that nobody mentions his od behavior he somewhat reminds my from that guy from life on mars.
Annyway Baltar has killed/was somewhat responsable for killing 99% of the worldpopulation of 12 or so worlds, if got no ID what Dune is So I say baltar

Prince_James
03-28-07, 08:19 PM
Spidergoat:

Good point about being set up, rather than fully knowing what he was doing.

Dr. Yueh intended to kill the House of Atreides, whereas Dr. Baltar never intended (or even knew) he was going to kill the bulk of humanity.

ORCOT: DO NOT READ BELOW.

Hell, he even showed -some- reluctance to kill prisoners when he was president and held captive on New Caprica.

RoyLennigan
03-28-07, 08:32 PM
You've got to take into consideration the fact that Yueh's betrayal resulted in the Kwizach Haderach--Paul Muad'Dib--who, upon being outcast into the femen desert, conquered the entire galactic empire.

Yueh had more inherent power, but Baltar was a greater fulcrum of power.

Prince_James
03-28-07, 08:44 PM
Can we give credit to Yueh for doing something he could not possibly have known, though?

Moreover, Paulw ould have become the KH regardless of his time with the Fremen. He was prescient nascently since a child.

RoyLennigan
03-28-07, 09:27 PM
Can we give credit to Yueh for doing something he could not possibly have known, though?

Moreover, Paulw ould have become the KH regardless of his time with the Fremen. He was prescient nascently since a child.

Are you so sure? I faintly remember that it was his being in the presence of the spice--actually in the desert with it--that caused him to have his first true premonitions. And after that he drank the water of the young sandworms, poisoning himself and awakening his mind, enabling him to see through space and time.

Prince_James
03-28-07, 09:37 PM
RoyLennigan:

Well presumably, as a noble in the Landstraad, his experience with spice over many years (as opposed to only two) would have given him the experience. But he would not have become a God-like being without opening the male experience of the spice agony (future sight). I say he would have eventually sought such out through the greater insights of his prescience, wedded to the influence of his mother.

RoyLennigan
03-29-07, 10:21 AM
RoyLennigan:

Well presumably, as a noble in the Landstraad, his experience with spice over many years (as opposed to only two) would have given him the experience. But he would not have become a God-like being without opening the male experience of the spice agony (future sight). I say he would have eventually sought such out through the greater insights of his prescience, wedded to the influence of his mother.

Frank only knows :D