View Full Version : Double standards - War crime suspect stays in Israel


Ghost_007
01-02-07, 08:27 PM
Old news:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4659985.stm

War crime suspect stays in Israel

Israel has refused to extradite a Polish-born Jew accused of war crimes against Germans in World War II.

Solomon Morel, an 86-year-old Holocaust survivor, is said to be responsible for the deaths of up to 1,500 prisoners.

Mr Morel commanded a Russian-run camp where Germans were held after the Soviets occupied Poland in 1945.

Mr Morel moved to Israel in 1994 when inquiries began in Poland. A previous extradition call was refused in 1998.

Israel's Justice Ministry told the BBC that Poland's extradition request had been turned down, but gave no further details.

Polish prosecutors say Israel refused the request, saying there was "no basis whatsoever" to extradite Mr Morel, the Associated Press reports.

Israel has no extradition treaty with Poland.

A prosecutor at Poland's Institute for National Remembrance - which investigates war-era crimes - criticised the decision, alluding to Israel's support of the prosecution of elderly people accused of genocide against Jews during the war.

"There should be one measure for judging war criminals, irrespective whether they are German, Israeli or any other nationality," Ewa Koj told the Associated Press news agency.

Mr Morel had survived incarceration in Auschwitz concentration camp earlier in the war, and lost many members of his family in the Holocaust.

The Simon Wiesenthal Center, a Jewish human rights organisation, regularly pressures foreign governments to prosecute those accused of Holocaust-era crimes.

Last year the organisation launched a "last chance" campaign to bring former Nazis and other Holocaust-era criminals to justice.

Mr Morel's case was brought to light in the 1990s when a US Jewish journalist, John Sack, published a book detailing alleged "revenge killings" by Jews placed in charge of prison camps at the end of the war.

Poland attempted to extradite Mr Morel in 1998, but Israel refused the request on technical grounds.

Poland's post-war communist government imprisoned some 100,000 Germans in 1945, and at least 15,000 are estimated to have died in captivity.

infoterror
01-04-07, 12:12 AM
Seize 1500 Israeli citizens and make a swap :)

otheadp
01-04-07, 09:27 AM
1 - it says in the article that Israel is not bound by any law to extradite him
2 - his alleged "victims" got off easy. if i was there i'd probably have killed more than 1500, with my bare hands

vslayer
01-04-07, 09:40 AM
he killed POWs, he is a criminal; if they want to charge people with killing jews then they must also be willing to let jewish killers be charged.

otheadp
01-04-07, 09:49 AM
and what status did his family have when they were all being slaughtered? dude u have no idea of the atrocities committed by many soldiers during and immediately after the war. what the hell is the point of inquiring into his actions, of all other peoples' actions? and why now?

also, let me remind you that from a legal standpoint, the Geneava Conventions were enacted AFTER he allegedly did what he did.

vslayer
01-04-07, 09:57 AM
it says that he killed these people in 1945. you seem to have no problem with holocuast directors from 1939 being charged, so how exactly does te passing of the gevena convention have any effect on whether he can be charged?

Kunax
01-04-07, 11:28 AM
2 - his alleged "victims" got off easy. if i was there i'd probably have killed more than 1500, with my bare hands

desktop warriors and arm chair generals

candy
01-04-07, 07:10 PM
It is interesting to note that those who scream the loudest for justice for themselves rarely want to ensure justice for others.

Ghost_007
01-05-07, 02:41 PM
and what status did his family have when they were all being slaughtered? dude u have no idea of the atrocities committed by many soldiers during and immediately after the war. what the hell is the point of inquiring into his actions, of all other peoples' actions? and why now?

Which other people’s actions? Stop whining. Murder is murder, Solomon Morel is a criminal and needs to be held to account.

It is interesting to note that those who scream the loudest for justice for themselves rarely want to ensure justice for others.

http://www.pressomatic.com/shellhall/upload/hammer%20and%20nail_web.JPG

infoterror
01-05-07, 06:08 PM
And with that, this thread's ready for framing.

s0meguy
01-05-07, 06:14 PM
It is interesting to note that those who scream the loudest for justice for themselves rarely want to ensure justice for others.
It is because humans only care about themselves. By the way it's hilarious that otheadp didn't respond to vslayers latest post yet.

Zephyr
01-06-07, 02:30 AM
Israel has no extradition treaty with Poland.
I wonder why. These treaties are usually reciprocal, aren't they?

He should probably be tried. But then, the Allied architects of the Dresden bombing should probably be tried too. I doubt that will ever happen.