Simon Anders
10-31-08, 10:22 PM
your temperment?
If it does could this be the reason you have it?
If it does could this be the reason you have it?
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View Full Version : Does your philosophy fit... Simon Anders 10-31-08, 10:22 PM your temperment? If it does could this be the reason you have it? swarm 11-02-08, 06:43 AM How cute. Simon Anders 11-02-08, 05:16 PM How oblique. one_raven 11-02-08, 05:21 PM "There is an eternal dispute between those who imagine the world to suit their policy, and those who correct their policy to suit the realities of the world." - Albert Sorel Do you determine your philosophy based on who you are, or do you shape who you are based on your philosophy? I like to think I fit into the latter category. Simon Anders 11-02-08, 05:56 PM Do you determine your philosophy based on who you are, or do you shape who you are based on your philosophy? I like to think I fit into the latter category. 1) have you met resistence in yourself? what if one looked at this resistence as coming from a different philosophy? 2) is there a way we, you, one can tell which came first and was causal? Mr. Hamtastic 11-02-08, 06:40 PM My philosophy vs My personality? Both are so amorphus. Rigidity of either would appear to cause guaranteed internal conflicts if one is honest with oneself. If you are willing to be dishonest with yourself, you can justify your personality using whatever is necessary to fit your philosophy, or vice-versa. Simon Anders 11-02-08, 07:32 PM My philosophy vs My personality? I used the word temperment, though personality could be a useful wording also. If one likes some of the following and not others mysteries control linear steps adventure experiencing without verbal thoughts looking before leaping not hesitating intimacy distance one might end up preferring things to be a certain way or to ONLY be a certain way. A philosophy might arise out of one's desire. Rigidity of either would appear to cause guaranteed internal conflicts if one is honest with oneself. Unless you are really good at taking over yourself. Perhaps somewhere off in the unconscious there is struggle (transcendentally), but the person never notices (or only brief flickers). One can also avoid noticing the conflicts by finding others and trying to get them in line. They are like the parts of yourself you don't want to notice. If you are willing to be dishonest with yourself, you can justify your personality using whatever is necessary to fit your philosophy, or vice-versa. And if you have a philosophy that does NOT fit your temperment it is very hard not to be a hypocrite. Mr. Hamtastic 11-02-08, 07:44 PM Wait, so I want to be honest all the time, but honesty is something that goes against common sense by past experience, so sometimes I slip and am deliberately dishonest. Dishonesty is freedom from the stainless steel cell of behavior I try to maintain myself in. Simon Anders 11-02-08, 07:48 PM Wait, so I want to be honest all the time, but honesty is something that goes against common sense by past experience, so sometimes I slip and am deliberately dishonest. Dishonesty is freedom from the stainless steel cell of behavior I try to maintain myself in. For example. And me laughing also. Philosophies can often be lacking in nuance. They are nice in the mind. Sort of like how one imagines one should act when out on a first date. And finally you find a way to act and what to say and then reality intrudes and the little map you had in the mind is suddenly a joke. First off you usually forget to include all of yourself in the map. Mr. Hamtastic 11-02-08, 07:53 PM Personality is what it is, on the other hand, and only changeable with alot of work. Right? Simon Anders 11-02-08, 07:57 PM Personality is what it is, on the other hand, and only changeable with alot of work. Right? And sometimes no work at all, but if work, then it seems to take quite a bit. All we really need is another job, right? cosmictraveler 11-02-08, 07:57 PM I just try to go with the flow as best I can but do have certain core items I will not alter. Simon Anders 11-02-08, 08:02 PM I just try to go with the flow as best I can but do have certain core items I will not alter.Do those core items match your philosophy? cosmictraveler 11-02-08, 08:07 PM Sometimes, depends upon the situation. :tempted: ;) Simon Anders 11-02-08, 08:11 PM Sometimes, depends upon the situation. :tempted: ;) so your temperment does not entirely fit your philosophy. Eidolan 11-02-08, 08:12 PM I have a philosophy because I want to change my temperment. Simon Anders 11-02-08, 08:13 PM I have a philosophy because I want to change my temperment.So there is 'something wrong' with your temperment and the philosophy will help fix it? cosmictraveler 11-02-08, 08:18 PM so your temperment does not entirely fit your philosophy. As I said, listen now, it depends upon the circumstances at the time as to what I will do. Simon Anders 11-02-08, 08:19 PM As I said, listen now, it depends upon the circumstances at the time as to what I will do.I think I got that. So sometimes you'll do things that go against your philosophy. I paraphase to make sure I understand, and also just in case the implications are not clear to you or other readers. Of course I might be wrong about those implications. cosmictraveler 11-02-08, 08:20 PM Exactly.:bravo: Simon Anders 11-02-08, 08:34 PM Exactly.:bravo:I asserted several things. Which one(s) was/were exactly right? Betrayer0fHope 11-02-08, 08:51 PM I'm a very loving person, and selfless person, but am arrogant. I am nihilistic, and believe life has no worth, and believe there is no right and wrong, but would give my life for the life of a few others. So no, they don't go together at all :shrug: I guess since I'm not a self preservationist and I believe my life has no worth either it makes a little sense, but meh :\ cosmictraveler 11-03-08, 06:37 AM I think I got that. So sometimes you'll do things that go against your philosophy. I paraphase to make sure I understand, and also just in case the implications are not clear to you or other readers. Of course I might be wrong about those implications. I'll go against my philosophy when I see that I am wrong about how I see things. When I can be shown that my views are not right any longer then I will be flexible enough to alter them. As an example I once thought that God created everything but as I learned more about science and reality I soon saw my philosophy about God was wrong so I changed my view about it and now see religion as a way of controlling people, guiding people, community social events, gathering spots for things people. I hope that helps you understand better. Simon Anders 11-03-08, 08:43 AM I'll go against my philosophy when I see that I am wrong about how I see things. When I can be shown that my views are not right any longer then I will be flexible enough to alter them. As an example I once thought that God created everything but as I learned more about science and reality I soon saw my philosophy about God was wrong so I changed my view about it and now see religion as a way of controlling people, guiding people, community social events, gathering spots for things people. I hope that helps you understand better. This seems like a whole other issue. It seemed like, above, Sometimes, depends upon the situation you, on occasion, may do things that do not fit with your philosophy. Perhaps I took the mood of your complicated emoticon too much into account in my interpretation. You were responding to my question about whether these core items you will not alter match your philosophy. It seemed like sometimes they do not, in certain situations. IOW in certain situations core items in your personality or temperment do not match your philosophy. Simon Anders 11-03-08, 08:44 AM I'm a very loving person, and selfless person, but am arrogant. I am nihilistic, and believe life has no worth, and believe there is no right and wrong, but would give my life for the life of a few others. So no, they don't go together at all :shrug: I guess since I'm not a self preservationist and I believe my life has no worth either it makes a little sense, but meh :\ What do you think is going to happen? Will your personality evolve your philosophy? Will your philosophy evolve your personality? Will you make a conscious decision around the issue? |