Does sex addiction exist?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by lucifers angel, Apr 30, 2008.

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is sex addictive?

Poll closed May 30, 2008.
  1. yes

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  2. no

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    16.7%
  3. i don't care, just give me more?

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  1. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    Lord Laidlaw of Rothiemay has admitted to receiving treatment for "sex addiction" at a private clinic, likening it to alcohol dependency. But is it really?

    It's a term that first came to widespread attention when actor Michael Douglas was admitted to rehab in 1990 and it was reported - inaccurately, he later claimed - to be a sex addict.

    More recently, comedian Russell Brand admitted to spending a week at a centre for sexual addiction in Philadelphia.

    And earlier this year, relationship counselling service Relate said there had been a huge increase in the number of cases concerning sexual compulsive behaviour. THE ANSWER
    Sex therapists would argue it is a real addiction with serious consequences
    But others in psychiatry and psychotherapy argue it is not comparable to substance addiction and should not be classed as such

    Now Lord Laidlaw, 65, says he has been fighting the "disease" for the whole of his adult life.

    So are so-called sex addicts suffering from an illness or just making excuses for being unfaithful?

    It's a very serious addiction, says Paula Hall, who runs a group therapy course for "sex addicts" in Warwickshire, and it's believed about one in 20 people suffer from it.

    Although not a chemical addiction like alcohol or heroin, it's a "process addiction" like gambling, she says, with a biochemical element linked to the release of dopamine in the brain.

    "It's a compulsive need to seek out and follow a certain type of sexual behaviour. That behaviour varies but it's basically an anaesthetising behaviour, something you are doing in order to avoid dealing with something else.

    "It's a coping mechanism and it's totally and entirely out of control. You are continuing to pursue it in spite of the consequences, like losing your job, your status, your wife and your health." It's not really about sex. It's driven by shame

    Paula Hall
    Relationships counsellor

    Addicts are usually men and they are of any age, she says, and from any background. The behaviour ranges from viewing online porn for a few hours a day, which is usually a starting point and then escalates, to visiting prostitutes at every opportunity.

    "It's a way of escaping from low self-esteem, feelings of anger and insecurity. It's not really about sex. It's driven by shame.

    "You feel about yourself and one way to stop feeling bad about yourself is to do something nice, but afterwards you feel even worse about yourself."

    'Greed'

    The difference between having an addiction and merely having a high sex drive is the level of compulsion, "disappearing into their own bubble and running away from the world", she says, and there's evidence that's it in the genes. WHO, WHAT, WHY?

    A regular part of the BBC News Magazine, Who, What, Why? aims to answer some of the questions behind the headlines

    But Phillip Hodson, fellow of the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy, says the term "addiction" is not appropriate for this behaviour, which would be better described as obsessive, compulsive or even greedy.

    Some very successful men have a habit of thinking they can get away with anything, especially behaviour they view as exciting, he says.

    "Sexual addiction is a relatively recent American, jargonized category of personality behaviour.

    "It uses a medical model - 'I'm an addict, I've got an illness and need a 12-step programme.' But I don't buy into it."
    Heroin withdrawal induces physical pain


    There's a difference in responding to your own adrenaline rush - which some people may receive from a passion for golf or Celine Dion - and craving a substance your body is addicted to.

    If everything was resting on it, then a sex obsessive would not walk over the abyss but a real addict would, says Mr Hodson. Substance addiction stops the body's natural production of opiates, thus inducing "cold turkey" which has a physical pain akin to old age.

    What some may describe as sex addiction does not stand up when applied to the proper definition of the word, says Glenn Wilson of the Institution of Psychiatry.

    "The original idea of addiction was that you had a chemical hijacking of the circuits of the brain built to give you pleasure as reward for doing things of a survival value, such as eating or having sex."

    After continued use, cocaine or cigarettes are capable of acquiring survival value for the individual concerned, he says.

    "But to turn round and argue that one is addicted to chocolate or sex, which are activities you would expect to be rewarded in survival terms, strikes me as hijacking the concept of addiction.

    "It's a way that people signal to the world that they think they have a problem and need to break it."

    But they are no different from anyone else, he says, because we all have sexual drives which can get us into trouble without inhibition or control.



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  3. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I'd think there are people in society that are "sexually addicted". Certain drugs can only make their problem worse. They do need help and am glad there are doctors out there trying to help them.
     
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  5. draqon Banned Banned

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    sex addiction exists if it didnt we would all be non-existent
     
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  7. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    Yes but I've cut down to twenty a day.
     
  8. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    LMAO!

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  9. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I'd think there's a difference between addiction and just regular sexual activities, don't you?
     
  10. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    I say yes, but a help group would be bound to failure, don't you think?
     
  11. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Depends if they were made up of nekked women crawling all over me or not!

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  12. EmmZ It's an animal thing Registered Senior Member

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    Makes my Thursday evenings go off with a bang.
     
  13. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    The twelve steps:
    1. I wank therefore I am
    2. Sorry, theres only one step I know of.
     
  14. EmmZ It's an animal thing Registered Senior Member

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    My sponsor didn't expect so many benefits. I call him up in the middle of the night with the DTs just to have phone sex. Then I'm OK again for another day.
     
  15. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    "Rattle, quiver....quiver" what?,... so soon?
     
  16. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    I like to lick the back of stamps. Is that an addiction or am I just plain weird?

    Of course it depends on the DEFINITION.... From the original article:

    "What some may describe as sex addiction does not stand up when applied to the proper definition of the word, says Glenn Wilson of the Institution of Psychiatry."

    End of story, case closed...
     
  17. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    What makes you so sure they all want to be helped ?
     
  18. EmmZ It's an animal thing Registered Senior Member

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    Click. Brrrrrrrr. Hello... Helloooooooooooooo. Pfffuh!
     
  19. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    Do you roll your own ?
     
  20. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    Sorry to break the bad news but there is no such thing as regular sexual activities. Hands up all those who consider their sexual activity irregular !
     
  21. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I only say that for those who really want to get help not those who want to remain screwed up, that's their right of course.

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  22. EmmZ It's an animal thing Registered Senior Member

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    Nice pun.
     
  23. Ghost_007 Registered Senior Member

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    Bullshit.


    She would say that, wouldn't she?


    Horseshit.


    Is that not the case with all pleasurable activities - the release of dopamine is natural. Seriously, those that think they are sex addicts need to shut their fucking mouths, grow up and take responsibility for their own actions, it’s a complete fucking joke. It seems as though there's an excuse for everything these days, people are becoming pussyfied to pretty much told not take responsibility for their bad behaviour, its always because of x, y or z - and you always have money hungry bastards encouraging this sort of nonsense. If these money hungry bastards want to do something useful they could put their effort into combating the lewdness that we are all force fed through the media – e.g. its okay to sleep around, women are sexual objects etc.

    Anyone ‘addicted to sex’ is a weak and pathetic human being.
     

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