View Full Version : Does bible define conception as the definition of human?


daktaklakpak
06-11-03, 01:06 PM
Is a clone baby a human?

okinrus
06-11-03, 02:53 PM
The bible pretty much defines "you" in the womb.
God tells Jeremiah, "Before I formed you in your mother's
womb I knew you". There would be no you if
Jerimiah was not a person. Another way to
tell is that the hebrews use "woman with child" which
depicts the unborn as a child.


Is a clone baby a human?

We won't know.

EvilPoet
06-11-03, 03:44 PM
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck...

daktaklakpak
06-11-03, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by EvilPoet
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck... I found several of these things on the shelf of Toys R Us... :D

everneo
06-11-03, 04:03 PM
If man plays powerful God, then God plays a mean man..:D

EvilPoet
06-11-03, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by daktaklakpak
I found several of these things on the
shelf of Toys R Us...
Did they walk and quack?

siledre
06-11-03, 04:52 PM
actually I think the question you should ask from the religious perspective is "does a cloned human have a soul"
obviously it is human but does conception count when its done outside the womb.

daktaklakpak
06-11-03, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by EvilPoet
Did they walk and quack? I am sure they will if you put in the battery and turn on the switch. :D

daktaklakpak
06-11-03, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by siledre
actually I think the question you should ask from the religious perspective is "does a cloned human have a soul"
obviously it is human but does conception count when its done outside the womb. Well, cloning means no conception at all. Not conception outside of womb.

EvilPoet
06-11-03, 06:45 PM
Adam and Eve were created outside of the womb.

Mystech
06-11-03, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by siledre
actually I think the question you should ask from the religious perspective is "does a cloned human have a soul"
obviously it is human but does conception count when its done outside the womb.

Does god only hand out souls while a child is in the womb? Even a clone would have to grow in a woman's womb, we havn't found any alternative to that yet, but do you think that if we came up with a way to grow a human in a jar or something, that God would be fooled?

daktaklakpak
06-11-03, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by Mystech
if we came up with a way to grow a human in a jar or something, that God would be fooled? Hmm.... The Matrix way.... I like it!

I mean if we really end up to live like people in the movie Matrix in some near future, what would Jesus do at the 2nd comming? :D

What would god do if we, the human, end up being controlled by our own creation, the A.I. machines?