Does anything constructive ever happen around here?

Do sciforum threads ever get any further than where they were when they started?
Is there ever an eventual sense of agreed conclusion?
Is there ever a sense of an argument settled?

Provide a link please to the most worthwhile thread you have yet encountered anywhere on the site.

With thanks in advance,

-- RH.

 

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Theres all kinds of agreement and dissent, which is what you'd expect from a global forum with hundreds of members.

A thread where ALL agree or disagree would be unrealistic.

 

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I disagree, agreement is more interesting

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The trouble is people don't know how to disagree, how to quarrel. Disagreement is a very dynamic incentive that opens doors to all sorts of wit and will power and displays of creative independence. People who shun it by putting posters on ignore, or denouncing their very existence, thinking you're rejecting disagreement—as most of you recently tarred Duendy—are actually bursting at the seams with a persistent seizure of disagreement... and don't quite know how to cultivate it.

 

I had hoped for more than this.
Comment is all very well but my request was quite specific:
"a link please to the most worthwhile thread"

Of all the thousands of sciforum threads to date was there never one with at least a dialogue between two of the participants that began at odds and ended with agreement?

Is there not one example anywhere to show us how to do it?

Or is it just too uncool to appreciate success?

---- RH.

 

settle on your own opinions, dude.

 

I am reminded of the UniKEF theory or something like that back in the physics/math section. So much debate going on but I could not follow because I am not that well versed in physics.

 

With that attitude you're preconditioning, and precluding a vital component to a topic's success: the art of spontaneity. And without it there isn't much risk, hardly any boldness, little independence, no enterprise. Makes for a very predictable and boring thread, no? See, I wasn't commenting to your request.

I think it is an excess to assume that success must also be appreciated by the residue.

 

I see. For success nothing more is required than for a bunch of incosequential tossers each to decide what success should consist of, each to elect themselves as Judge and Jury of their own cause as if some sort of skill is requred for that, as if I am supposed to be impressed.

What exactly does it risk, Meantime, to sit there on your lonely little island, turning your mirror around?

What are you so terribly afraid of?

I call it cheap and easy.

For me success is a congenially useful result, hard won.

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good job. you are officially flaming the forum itself now!!

 

Is it a risk to fail to conform to the non conformity?

What sort of a nutshell is that to be confined to?

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Does than mean to suppose that we all agree that there is no such thing as a worthwhile thread, and if this moves down the list that would prove it?

I was looking for an agreed conclusion, an argument eventually settled by discussion, not an agreed preamble.

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It is difficult to pick a most worthwhile thread. There are many many threads that have insightful passages, a page or two of good stuff, and ten pages of dead weight, or off topic.

Moreover, I remember sometimes agreement and conclusion was reached within another thread, other than the one that provided the original contention. People who have had a lot of discussions with each other, continued discussing certain topics in various threads, and the life line of this was that they knew each other or shared some views or cruxes.

I had thought about your request for a couple of days, remembered some threads, and some I don't know anymore how to find as I forgot who started them or key words.
I have come to the conclusion that for me, the appeal of discussion is that discussion is a kind of commodity, something that is produced, used and discarded, or an exercise completed. After it is done, it is not (so) interesting anymore, but it is invigorating *that* it is done.

 

But to give some examples of threads with at least some conclusions --


Does bubblegum pop count as real art?
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=44449


You can't tickle yourself into laughter
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=49330


Heaven...... a way of grieving?
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=38544


Nihilism
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=46908


Free Will?
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=45896


Love, Sex, and Feces: The Psychology of Giving
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=43167


A Bradburyan Nighmare: The Shunning of Intellect
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=35604

 

I never spoke of "success", you're the one whose obsessed with finding something already laid out and consummated. Why? Are you dying for a cigarette already?

The risk of not being tampered by a cheap sheepishness as you seem to delight in imposing, I suppose.

But how are you suppose to determine a "successful" result in the process—unless of course you've already determined it's course, like electing yourself Judge and Jury of a thread's cause, as if some sort of skill is required to impress upon us a certain end, like in a recipe book.

Precisely, Water: a sense of success or accomplishment or direction is like a conduit that will pour into other quarters, bleed into other time-frames, spill into areas of our personalities—must we start measuring success by the book??

 

Success is worthwhile.

Cigarettes are not worthwhile.

Your comprehension is lamentably perverse.

I was looking specifically for agreement, the antithesis of imposition.

By discussion. One has to work at it.

Suit yourself.

I was looking for sense, not book.

--- RH.

 

Thank you very much for trouble and for taking me seriously.

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I shall check out the links in due course.

Sick to death for the time being of studying dissent and disagreement I had thought it might make a pleasant change to study agreement.

--- Ron.

 

Welcome aboard Ron. We ned some more 'old school'.

 

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