My girlfriend loves visual art, pictures, paintings, photos landscape, etc.
What is so special about a painting or a photograph?
What is sp special about art? In my opinion (one which many will hate) is that visual art is useless.
I love philosophy, psychology, sociology, but my girlfriend hates them and prefers to read novels that "express beauty in thier words."
!?!??!?! ??!
It seems to me that my girlfriend is highly stimulated by visual art.
She reads books for entertainment and not for reason or insight.
She doesnt ask why things are, she doesnt seek the truth. (maybe she does, who knows) She doesnt like philosophy.
What is this facination with art?

Music is excellent, I love music.
Art seems like a waste of time to me. What so special about a "pretty painting?"

I take a martial art with my girlfriend, she takes it for the "art form"
I take it to protect myself , and possibly others from any violent attack.


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It will always boggle me.
I would like to hear some other points of view if possible.




Thanks.

isn't music a form of art. a musican expresses his emotions and ideas through music where a painter for instance uses canvis and paint. its just two different ways of exploring the same thing.

Maybe i just cannot find any emotion or feeling in a painting.

Music you can feel it, it fills your body.

I dont know, thats why i asked =)

You just don't see the world the way many other people do..no biggie...you find art to be bogus while some find music to be a waste of time...it's all about one's persepective towards life.


BTW i find DADA of Berlin to be a hogwash of talentless hacks while i adore Leonardo Da Vinci and Jaques David for their amazing dexterity. It's all about how one sees things. Some find experimentation in art amazing while others say that loser can't draw..(much like my opinion towards dada Berlin).

Friderich Nietzche even apllied his own terms to modern type of artists such as "applynion" and Dionasyian"..(forgive me...i have butchred the names and terms)....

Enjoy music if you love that and stay away from art.;)

I once dated a person who hated art. It was a MAJOR problem! the thought that that person expressed was why think ab the work of art? for example, take Mona Lisa: its a good looking painting but why think ab it?
that is the answer to your question: when you think ab art it becomes beautiful. there are just as many complex ideas, opinions, truths, geometry, chemistry, physics, and psychology in a good work of art as there is in any other work.
dont forget, art includes your plate and appartment and your shirt! you are surrounded by it! humans are attracted to things that are aesthetically pleasing. human body itself is art.
ill probably think of more things along the way, just keep coming back here.

Originally posted by whitewolf
human body itself is art.
Oh I see the real world as "art".
But it takes alot for a picture to impress me in the same way. I'm a very harsh critic in that regard. It would have to be different, not just something that is replicating real life(real life usually does it better anyway). There is no need for that art now because we have cameras.
A fruitbowl won't cut it, or a pale fat chick(mona lisa)
A picture of a fruitbowl made out of a fat chick would be acceptable I suppose.
If you paint thats fine, I used to love drawing myself, but people trying to sell stuff thats clearly crap piss me off, nearly as much as the people that actually buy it:rolleyes:

human body itself is art.

art means "artifitial" and cannot exist/be created by the nature. Body can be nice but is in no way an artpiece. (unless it is photograhed, sculptured, painted, danced..etc) Art is art only if it is result of a (deliberate) <b>mental</b> process. in some cases (eg. landscape architecture) re/positioning of natural objects according to a design (or artistic thought) can cause artistic effect.

When looking at others photo albums, I constantly look at the people, not the structures.
Nature is beautiful.
Man-made structures are rarely ever beautiful in my mind.

Originally posted by Dr Lou Natic
[, I used to love drawing myself, [/B]

Why did you love drawing yourself, are you that self-centered:D

I, myself like most music,(hate rap, which is not music), poetry, and some other forms of art, but detest abstract art, interpretive dance, opera, ballet and most of the shit that is being passed off as art now. My mother-in-law is a photorealistic painter and I love the work she does. It is all a matter of taste. By liking some things and not liking others, you are showing yourself to be selective rather than going along with the crowd, which in my opinion puts you well ahead of that crowd.:cool:

Originally posted by Dr Lou Natic
Oh I see the real world as "art".
A fruitbowl won't cut it, or a pale fat chick(mona lisa)
A picture of a fruitbowl made out of a fat chick would be acceptable I suppose.


ROFL.
I can totally relate to your opinion, i feel the same way.
Honestly though,visual art is just that, visual art. Paintings may contain a very simplistic view of our existence, a thought, or an emotion, but I dont think its the most effective way to presesnt them. Language is much more effective.

but you know the old adage a picture is worth a thousand words. yes you can explane your surrondings through words but to someone who is not present a picture can make them really feel a part of your experance.

Originally posted by revbill2001
Why did you love drawing yourself, are you that self-centered:D
I mostly just drew my penis...
Which is totally understandable to anyone who has seen my penis:cool:

I don't really like many paintings or things that are specifically art, but if you examine yourself you'll see that you have an innate, unconscious need and desire for pretty, symetrical things, you're just jaded to the point where you can't appreciate everything around you as artistic.

Today, our computers are made artistically, we watch artistically pleasing movies all the time, our countertops are symetrical and smooth, and even this website is made to be aesthetically pleasing.

Would you really come here if it sciforums had green letters on a purple background, and was full of mismatched lines?

But yeah, I can see what you mean. I've never enjoyed staring at paintings, either, it's more of subconciously pleasing thing.

If you found yourself out in the wild, after a few years I'm sure you would try to fullfill your artistic need by making some designs, like pictures on the wall. It's the human need to be surrounded by beautiful things.

Baldur, is it really the human need to be surrounded by "pretty things" ?
I dont necessarily think so.
I think that cleanliness is more of a requirement than pretty things.
The functionality of this website is more important that the color sceme.
order and cleanliness are defenitely important.
Pretty things are unnecessary, dont you think ?

nothing is neccessary. "pretty things" are very important to some people. I for one find nature pretty enough but stimulating things (i.e porn) are nice to have around. I figure it is just a luxury that we have available.

If you look at people living is very hard conditions, say refugee camps, where food , shelter and clothing are all scarce, you will still find art.

That says alot, IMO.

That's especially true where the conditions are harsh that the people need to invent art. I'm not sure I agree that symmetry is necessary for aesthetic appeal though. One could see the amount that people create art outside themselves to have an inverse correlation with how much art people perceive around them already. If someone perceives enough beauty in their deeds and their experiences, why would they feel compelled to "create art" rather than just enjoy the art already there? There's no reason that art has to outlast the act of its creation. Isn't this the case with artforms like ballet? It's a beautiful act that only lasts as long as it's being created.