View Full Version : Does Bottled Water Burst When Freezing?


darksidZz
03-09-08, 03:45 AM
I wasn't sure where to ask this but if you took a whole thing of bottled water and put it in your trunk during winter would it eventually burst because of the constant freezing going on? Would it freeze?

Asguard
03-09-08, 04:15 AM
depends how much air is in the top of the bottle

ElectricFetus
03-09-08, 05:31 PM
I've actually done this (by accident, repeatedly) most plastic bottles can take the pressure and will simply deform but not crack open, glass bottles will be found broken and glued by ice to the bottom of the cars floor.

Asguard
03-09-08, 06:33 PM
im sorry, by burst i thought you were asking would the lid pop off and the ice expand out of the bottle. THIS has happened to me a few times when i have tried to freeze bottles of water. However i highly doubt that plastic would break before the lid releaced if thats what your asking. Again it comes down to how much air is in the bottle though, if there IS some air then it will just take up that room first

cosmictraveler
03-09-08, 06:37 PM
Would it freeze?

Depends on where you keep your car. If it is always located inside of a heated garage and you don't drive around at all it won't freeze at all. ;)

James R
03-10-08, 09:28 PM
Water expands when it freezes. That creates pressure inside a closed bottle. If the bottle is strong or can deform enough, it might not burst. If it isn't strong enough, it will burst.

Captain Kremmen
03-19-08, 06:38 PM
I wasn't sure where to ask this but if you took a whole thing of bottled water and put it in your trunk during winter would it eventually burst because of the constant freezing going on? Would it freeze?

Tree trunks, Mr Owl?

Syzygys
03-19-08, 09:34 PM
Why don't you put it in the freezer and see what happens?? The test of the pudding..

MetaKron
03-19-08, 10:20 PM
I have actually frozen bottled water. Make sure there is some space at the top.

James R
03-21-08, 12:37 AM
I have actually frozen bottled water. Make sure there is some space at the top.

Obviously, if you allow room for the expansion there is no problem.

Captain Kremmen
03-21-08, 03:50 PM
Since we are discussing freezers........
(we are cutting edge in the chem section)

If you had a vey powerful freezer, one that froze things to nearly
absolute zero, would the water ice from your super ice-box, when added to your
drink of pepsi, make it
1. No cooler than a standard ice cube?
2. A little cooler than a standard ice cube?
3. Much cooler than a standard ice cube?

draqon
03-21-08, 03:51 PM
does frozen heart burst when it is given love back anew?

MetaKron
03-21-08, 10:59 PM
People freeze bottled water all the time to take to work in a hot place. I know one or two who do it in the winter too, but I don't know why. Just be sure it's a plastic bottle.

James R
03-22-08, 02:31 AM
If you had a very powerful freezer, one that froze things to nearly absolute zero, would the water ice from your super ice-box, when added to your drink of pepsi, make it
1. No cooler than a standard ice cube?
2. A little cooler than a standard ice cube?
3. Much cooler than a standard ice cube?

Lock in answer 3, assuming your super-cool ice cube was normal ice-cube size.

Heat flows from hot objects to cold. So, your pepsi cools by heat flowing from the pepsi to the ice cube, which is at a lower temperature. As the ice in the cube heats to zero degrees Celcius, it starts to melt, which absorbs even more energy.

A normal ice cube may be a few degrees below zero. If you have one hundreds of degrees below zero, it would absorb more heat from the drink. The most likely outcome would be to freeze your pepsi solid.

Captain Kremmen
03-22-08, 05:04 AM
....freeze your pepsi solid.
Thanks. I like the sound of that.
Would make a good party trick.

ElectricFetus
03-22-08, 06:05 AM
Since we are discussing freezers........
(we are cutting edge in the chem section)

If you had a vey powerful freezer, one that froze things to nearly
absolute zero, would the water ice from your super ice-box, when added to your
drink of pepsi, make it
1. No cooler than a standard ice cube?
2. A little cooler than a standard ice cube?
3. Much cooler than a standard ice cube?

A better question would be what happens to the water if you super freeze it, does it still break the bottle?

http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/images/phasexp.gif

Captain Kremmen
03-22-08, 09:39 AM
A better question would be what happens to the water if you super freeze it, does it still break the bottle?

http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/images/phasexp.gif

I can't make head or tail of this.
There is a Ih and no I.
IV is missing.
What do the Roman numerals stand for?


As regards ice, isn't it the only substance which expands as it freezes, meaning ice floats rather than sinks?

Actually, is it the only substance that does this?

ElectricFetus
03-22-08, 10:26 AM
Geez, you could just click on the images properties, copy-pasted the address into your browser and gone to the web site, but yes that image only show part of the picture:

http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/images/phase.gif (http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/phase.html)

Captain Kremmen
03-22-08, 10:57 AM
I and IV are still missing.
Now in addition to Ih there is an Ic.

What is this graph about?
You can't just post a graph with no key and expect people to investigate.

ElectricFetus
03-22-08, 10:58 AM
I and IV are still missing.
Now in addition to Ih there is an Ic.

What is this graph about?
You can't just post a graph with no key and expect people to investigate.

Click it!

Captain Kremmen
03-22-08, 11:11 AM
Thanks.
I am, of course, just being bloody awkward.

Given the number of posts you've made, we should have met by now,
but I'm not hostile.

I didn't realise you could post images here that people could click on and link to the source.
Very useful, and I've never seen it used before.

ElectricFetus
03-22-08, 11:16 AM
Thanks.
I am, of course, just being bloody awkward.

Given the number of posts you've made, we should have met by now,
but I'm not hostile.

I didn't realise you could post images here that people could click on and link to the source.
Very useful, and I've never seen it used before.

I've been in cryogenic stasis (http://www.sciforums.com/encyclopedia/ElectricFetus)

It's simple:
1. Make image with {img} tags
2. Make link over with {html} tag on the outside of {img} tags.

Captain Kremmen
03-22-08, 11:28 AM
I've been in cryogenic stasis (http://www.sciforums.com/encyclopedia/ElectricFetus)

It's simple:
1. Make image with {img} tags
2. Make link over with {html} tag on the outside of {img} tags.


Thanks. I'll have a look at the original post.
Strange that people don't use it regularly.
Is there a problem with it?

ElectricFetus
03-22-08, 11:58 AM
Thanks. I'll have a look at the original post.
Strange that people don't use it regularly.
Is there a problem with it?

Lets continue this off-topicness: what is "it" you describe?

Captain Kremmen
03-22-08, 12:11 PM
It is not well described on this site, even how to show a simple illustation.
It was a few weeks on the site before I knew how to do that.

What you did, I have not seen used before.
Are many people using it here?

ElectricFetus
03-22-08, 12:31 PM
It is not well described on this site, even how to show a simple illustation.
It was a few weeks on the site before I knew how to do that.

What you did, I have not seen used before.
Are many people using it here?

Don't know.

lucifers angel
03-23-08, 06:28 AM
I wasn't sure where to ask this but if you took a whole thing of bottled water and put it in your trunk during winter would it eventually burst because of the constant freezing going on? Would it freeze?

why don't you try it and find out??

then tell us so we'll all know