View Full Version : Doctor Who 9 vs Doctor Who 10


lixluke
03-21-07, 12:46 PM
I just finished watching Doctor Who 2005 and 2006 for the first time in my entire life. I have never seen or known that about Doctor Who before even though it has been around since 1963. It's British.

Anyway, I consider every one of the 2006 episodes to be far superior to the 2005 episodes. The 2006 episodes seemed to be far richer in overall content. However I liked Doctor Who 9 way better than the current Doctor Who 10.

I have never seen any of the previous ones, so didn't make a poll for all of them. I wouldn't know who to vote for. Therefore, I only made a poll for 9 and 10.

darksidZz
03-21-07, 01:42 PM
huh?

one_raven
03-21-07, 01:53 PM
Get a job.

Nikelodeon
03-21-07, 01:54 PM
I bet you didnt buy those episodes.

lixluke
03-21-07, 05:33 PM
Buy episodes?
Do you not know what filesharing is?

one_raven
03-21-07, 05:43 PM
Buy episodes?
Do you not know what filesharing is?

Yes, it what losers who wish to steal rather than rightfully pay others do to entertain themselves.

superstring01
03-21-07, 05:45 PM
Yes, it what losers who wish to steal rather than rightfully pay others do to entertain themselves.

CAH... ha... haaaaaaaa! Tell me you said that with a straight face!

man... i feel so evil. i steel share files.

~String

Nikelodeon
03-21-07, 05:45 PM
Are you on welfare too?

orcot
03-21-07, 05:48 PM
Christopher Eccleston altough that might be because I didn't realy liked most of david tennants episode the girl in the fire place was the best. Don't know tennants seems to nerves all the time he's tiring to watch.

one_raven
03-21-07, 05:54 PM
CAH... ha... haaaaaaaa! Tell me you said that with a straight face!

man... i feel so evil. i steel share files.

~String

I personally don't pirate music, moview or any othe rintellectual property.
not because it is illegal, because it is against my own personal standard of ethics, and I have integrity.

If you honestly don't think it is wrong, I don't judge your actions. I just disagree.

The loser part was just added specially for Luke Licker, because he is hypocritical little weasel who swears that our whole social and economic structure is evil and wrong and should be abolished and rants on and on about stupid people who play into the system, but he feeds off the system like a disease ridden parasite and finds ways to bilk as much our of tax dollars as possible and steals everything he can. He pretends to do it our of high moral characer and conviction, but he is really a lazy, spoiled little whiney punk looking to get over.

lixluke
03-21-07, 07:18 PM
Yes, it what losers who wish to steal rather than rightfully pay others do to entertain themselves.
Bull crap. Anybody that isn't living in their own ignorant ass uses filesharing to obtain any type of media.

lixluke
03-21-07, 07:20 PM
The girl in the fireplace was hot no pun.

I think everything about the 2nd season was better except for the doctor. Why did #9 only do one season? Why did Rose only do 2 seasons? Were they fired? They were great actors.

one_raven
03-21-07, 10:35 PM
Bull crap. Anybody that isn't living in their own ignorant ass uses filesharing to obtain any type of media.

I have never once used it, and I know quite a few others who have not.
But if it helps you justify it to yourself, go ahead and believe whatever you want - you will anyway.

MetaKron
03-21-07, 11:59 PM
I personally don't pirate music, moview or any othe rintellectual property.
not because it is illegal, because it is against my own personal standard of ethics, and I have integrity.

If you honestly don't think it is wrong, I don't judge your actions. I just disagree.

The loser part was just added specially for Luke Licker, because he is hypocritical little weasel who swears that our whole social and economic structure is evil and wrong and should be abolished and rants on and on about stupid people who play into the system, but he feeds off the system like a disease ridden parasite and finds ways to bilk as much our of tax dollars as possible and steals everything he can. He pretends to do it our of high moral characer and conviction, but he is really a lazy, spoiled little whiney punk looking to get over.

You talk about integrity and then you talk about Luke like that, in the same miserable post.

orcot
03-22-07, 05:58 AM
I think everything about the 2nd season was better except for the doctor. Why did #9 only do one season? Why did Rose only do 2 seasons? Were they fired? They were great actors
I believe Eccleston is more of a drama guy and doctor who might have been a little to light for him (He was good though).
I've heard that Billie girl left because she wanted to do something els she's been a pop singer and a actres who knows, perhaps theatre but I got that from the same site that told she's a lesbian so I wouldn't thrust it a 100%

You said you liked season 2 the best what did you thought of those gas mask people?

Sarkus
03-22-07, 06:05 AM
I much prefer Tennant (10) to Ecclestone (9).
Tennant has the right cheeky-charm about him, whereas Ecclestone was far too serious - except when he grinned and folded his arms.

Tennant, I think, is slightly the better actor - better able to play the mixed emotions of his situation, not just in words but in his look.

Anyhoo - none are as good as Tom Baker.

Jelly-Baby anyone?

one_raven
03-22-07, 07:59 AM
You talk about integrity and then you talk about Luke like that, in the same miserable post.
What are you talking about?

What does what I had to say about him have to do with me having or lacking integrity at all?

Integrity is about having the courage of your convictions - it is about being true to your beliefs and honestly striving toward your ideals - it is about being honest with others, and, more importantly, yourself - it is about having the strength to practice what you preach.

lixluke
03-22-07, 09:06 AM
I personally don't pirate music, moview or any othe rintellectual property.
not because it is illegal, because it is against my own personal standard of ethics, and I have integrity.

If you honestly don't think it is wrong, I don't judge your actions. I just disagree.

The loser part was just added specially for Luke Licker, because he is hypocritical little weasel who swears that our whole social and economic structure is evil and wrong and should be abolished and rants on and on about stupid people who play into the system, but he feeds off the system like a disease ridden parasite and finds ways to bilk as much our of tax dollars as possible and steals everything he can. He pretends to do it our of high moral characer and conviction, but he is really a lazy, spoiled little whiney punk looking to get over.
Get real. You have no concept of ethics other than brainwashed formo of integrity.

There is no choice of pirating for people that cannot afford to purchase overpriced media. Furthermore, the only reason pirates exist is because of creativ intellectual property. Your paradigm is based on a box, and everything in the box is false. Try destroying the box altogether, and you get a society in which all creativity is shared among all life without restriction. There is no poverty, and therefore, no assholes trying to charge formedia that only rich people can afford, and poor people cannot.

Then you claim I should work for the ability to afford it, but every single job out there refuses to compensate the individual properly in return for work done. Billions of people put in their time for alot lower compensation than they deserve. History has shown hundreds and hundreds of great empires built by the hands of slaves. Castles all over europe, asia, africa, and the middle east. These things didn't erect themselves. Nor were they built by the people for the people. They were built by the poor for the rich. You do not seem to consider that those castles belong to the poor. All money that the government has stolen from the poor belong to the poor. It belongs to the people. Not to the rich.

As for filesharing being stealing. That is just as rediculous as considering using seeds from a fruit they bought to grow their own fruit. X cannot be considered stolen if X never leaves the hands of it's owner.

one_raven
03-22-07, 09:35 AM
As I have said before, I agree with a lot of what you have to say about this.
If you had the courage of your convictions and didn't hypocritically live off the system you so fervently claim to despise, I would have a great deal of respect for you.
As it is, however, you simply use it as a convenient excuse to justify your own laziness.

As for filesharing being stealing. That is just as rediculous as considering using seeds from a fruit they bought to grow their own fruit. X cannot be considered stolen if X never leaves the hands of it's owner.
That is the weakest load of bullshit justification for theft of intellectual property I have ever heard (and being an opponent of file sharing, believe me, I have heard quite a few).
Songs, books, movies etc do NOT grow on trees for people to sell.
Often times, they take a good deal of work, time, effort and self sacrifice to create.
Being that we don't live in the utopian dream you claim to visualize, why should the artists not be compensated for their hard work?
You said yourself that you have a problem with people not being compensated for their hard work, yet you are satified to steal from them?
No, you aren't a hypocrite.

Perhaps you should more closely examine the box you claim to live in.

Ophiolite
03-22-07, 11:49 AM
There is no choice of pirating for people that cannot afford to purchase overpriced media. Crap. Do without it. One Raven's characterisation of you as a weasel was spot on. I haven't previously noticed your persona on the forums, but nothing I have seen in this thread is in any way attractive. You appear to be a self centred, selfish, piece of shit. On the plus side it shows most of the rest of us in a much better light.

lixluke
03-22-07, 12:49 PM
As I have said before, I agree with a lot of what you have to say about this.
If you had the courage of your convictions and didn't hypocritically live off the system you so fervently claim to despise, I would have a great deal of respect for you.
As it is, however, you simply use it as a convenient excuse to justify your own laziness.


That is the weakest load of bullshit justification for theft of intellectual property I have ever heard (and being an opponent of file sharing, believe me, I have heard quite a few).
Songs, books, movies etc do NOT grow on trees for people to sell.
Often times, they take a good deal of work, time, effort and self sacrifice to create.
Being that we don't live in the utopian dream you claim to visualize, why should the artists not be compensated for their hard work?
You said yourself that you have a problem with people not being compensated for their hard work, yet you are satified to steal from them?
No, you aren't a hypocrite.

Perhaps you should more closely examine the box you claim to live in.
Creating media is not work. Nor is it ethical to own something that you can never physically lose. It is not justification ot anything. It is just simple ethics. If I create something, I might use the law and system to make money with it, and prevent others from using it. However, if I were to claim that I have sole ownership over my creative work in an ethical sense, I would be fooling myself. Legally, I might be able to use the law to own my work and control it. Ethically, nobody can own something that they cannot lose physically.

You have some obsession with laziness and living off of the system as if that concept really exists. There is no such thing as laziness if compensation and incentive are involved. People have the right to be "lazy" as you put it. Nobody has the right to force others to work or participate in a system of destruction and incompetence. It is one thing to live off of a system, and another thing to attack the system. The system is garbage.

I declare that if anybody finds any flaw in any system I implement, feel free to attack it. It only means the system is not doing its job, and people are unhappy. If people are unhappy it is not the person attacking it that needs to change. It is the system that needs to better itself so people do not feel the need to attack it or "live off it" as you so put it. If the system was actually effective and competent, there would be no need to attack it. Instead of calling people lazy for not wanting to work which is everybody's right to not want to work, try compensating them or providing proper incentive for them to work readily and happily.

Ophiolite
03-22-07, 01:39 PM
Creating media is not work..Humbug. Infantile humbug.
Instead of calling people lazy for not wanting to work which is everybody's right to not want to work, try compensating them or providing proper incentive for them to work readily and happily.Alternatively, treat them like any other parasite. Please refere to most posts by Baron Max for detailed examples of the methodology.

Cretin.

Anti-Flag
03-22-07, 02:41 PM
Actually he's got a point that a lot of media is hugely overpriced; As far as I know this came before downloading with the industry wanting to maximise profit. The difference between people is that some people download purely as it's a free copy, and although it should be about the music/art/whatever and not making money, artists have a right to earn a living, the ideal situation would be to cut the gap between making a living and being a millionaire(including the middle men taking their more than fair share).
Regardless, what of people who download with a view to buying if the music is worth the price? Do you disagree with their integrity?
Sadly a lot of stuff isn't worth it, until that trend stops, or more sites allow you to preview things properly it'd be a much easier choice to decide what you like and will pay for at a reasonable price, until then filesharing will continue.
FYI the rest of what he says is BS.:p

Anti-Flag
03-22-07, 02:44 PM
And in an attempt to get us back on topic, I liked the 10th doctor best, but the episodes for the 9th were by far better, except the first one, now that did make me laugh. It returns with a new series on the 31st in the UK. :D
Either way bring back the old ones! I wish they'd repeat those old series so I could finally see them along with the movies.

lixluke
03-22-07, 02:47 PM
I'm not refering to any of your retarded posts. What makes you think anybody is a parasite?

If you choose to work, it is because you get compensated. You work, you get paid to do the job. You use your pay your own way. Why should you care what anybody else does? Why should you care when you have YOUR money, and nobody is taking any money from you? Are you under the mistaken impression that tax money is for your benefit, and anybody pocketing it means less money for you?

Tax money has nothing to do with you. What you earn when you work is 100% watever it is you get after taxes. That is your wages. Your supposed salary before taxes is not a real wage. Get over it.

one_raven
03-22-07, 02:47 PM
So, buy independent music.
They usually cost less.
More money goes directly to the artist.
You aren't supporting the industry.

Porsches are way overpriced.
Does that mean I have the right to steal one?

one_raven
03-22-07, 02:51 PM
Tax money has nothing to do with you. What you earn when you work is 100% watever it is you get after taxes. That is your wages. Your supposed salary before taxes is not a real wage. Get over it.

You are so full of shit, and I think you know it.
As so called "needs" go up, taxes go up.
The more that is spent on scumbags like you, the less that is spent on education, healthcare and otehr social infrastructure programs that you claim to be in support of.
The more you sponge off the system, the less you live your life according to your own ideals, the more hypocritical you are.

You know all this is true, regardless of the justifications you make.

Nikelodeon
03-22-07, 03:02 PM
What makes you think anybody is a parasite?
The fact that you're a parasite?

lixluke
03-22-07, 03:31 PM
Choose 1:
A: Get $5 in exchange for an hour of your life.

B: Get $5 for free.

Nikelodeon
03-22-07, 03:31 PM
Choose 1:
A: Get $5 in exchange for an hour of your life.

B: Get $5 for free.
Irrelevant.

one_raven
03-22-07, 03:35 PM
Choose 1:
A: Get $5 in exchange for an hour of your life.

B: Get $5 for free.

If that $5 comes from the sweat of another person's toil and is taken from them to give to me, I'd rather earn it honestly.
If you had any integrity and actually believed what you preached, so would you.

A.

You hypocrite.

lixluke
03-22-07, 05:54 PM
You hypocrite.
Speak for yourself. Everything that belongs to the rich is from the sweat and toil of another individual. What are you talking about?

You claim to have the choice, so make the choice. If you choose to work, you are getting paid for it. Why would you care who profits off of work? Why would you rather have the rich profit off of your work than have it go to somebody poor so they do not have to work.

John99
03-22-07, 06:01 PM
Bull crap. Anybody that isn't living in their own ignorant ass uses filesharing to obtain any type of media.

a thief with any balls admits he is a theif.

one_raven
03-22-07, 06:02 PM
Why would you rather have the rich profit off of your work than have it go to somebody poor so they do not have to work.

I have no problem supporting people who can not work.
I have a problem supporting lazy, self-absorbed, self-righteous pricks.

John99
03-22-07, 06:04 PM
FileSharing(stealing)= there may be no Doctor Who 11? no more music, no more books...only darkness.

lixluke
03-22-07, 09:39 PM
I have no problem supporting people who can not work.
I have a problem supporting lazy, self-absorbed, self-righteous pricks.
What makes you think you are supporting anybody? If you work, you are getting paid. You do the job because you are paid for the job. Not because you are supporting anybody.


FileSharing(stealing)= there may be no Doctor Who 11? no more music, no more books...only darkness.
Oh no. It's over for the world if nobody can watch dr who.

Blue_UK
03-29-07, 12:11 PM
I'll pay for digital things when I can afford to! (Student atm)

Seriously, I was thinking of buying some Torchwood DVDs (Doctor Who spin off series) for my sister, when I noticed that you have to pay £20/$40 per 5 episodes.

FTS

orcot
03-29-07, 12:47 PM
dont buy torchwood unles your interested in gay porn. Common the entire cast is bi how realistic is that. Give me doctor who

Enterprise-D
03-29-07, 01:25 PM
Really? I thought only Harkness was specifically bi? The others were unknown to my knowledge...Haven't seen it yet tho

lixluke
03-29-07, 08:07 PM
Torchwood is fine, but Doctor Who is a great show.

Zakariya04
03-31-07, 11:47 AM
Dear All,

I prefer Tennat, and guess what doc who starts again today in the UK:D

how exctied am i

The best doctor is definitely Tom baker.

Hopefully in this new series they will bring back "the mAster"

And hopefully they will introduce some other time lords who survived the time war....

does anyone have any spoilers??
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Take iot ez zak

orcot
03-31-07, 03:27 PM
seen the first episode now seems he will be traveling with a student doctor. It's to early to say that the season is going to be good but I liked the episode especialy the part with the shoe. Like with the actor I think the season is going to be a little more lighter then with eccelston buth hey it's funny

lixluke
04-26-07, 05:45 PM
Is there another Doctor somewhere? The big face told him that he was not alone.

spidergoat
04-26-07, 06:15 PM
The more recent Dr. Who episodes are very good.

I didn't steal them, just watched on the internet, streaming FLV. If I see them in the store, I will buy them, but I won't get cable.

Zakariya04
04-27-07, 03:06 AM
Is there another Doctor somewhere? The big face told him that he was not alone.

Dear coolskill

I hope you are well.

The face of Boe in his vague statement "you are not alone" could mean a number of things, however what do you mean by another doctor? To me it probaly means one of the following:

1) Another Time Lord survived the time war, eg "the master" - the master was quite a bad dude and one of the Doctors enemeies in the classic series.
- however apparently timelords can sense for telepathy etc.. if another time lord is alive, but with the master being so bad perhaps he has not picked this up yet? _ who knows
2) the first doctor actually travelled with his grandaughter, so the doctor may have a son about or something.
3) or another explanation.

You see the thing is the faxce of Boe has been around for like billions of years so he would know. the doctor cant just dismiss what the face has told him cos of the ffaces age and the fact that the face knows shit loads, however the doctor feels that he would "know" if another timelord is around"

In Doctor who confidential, David tennant said that the Face of boe was not lying but the doctor is correct too in beleiving he is alone. David tennant says that the answer will be explored over the series as a running theme and the answer to this mystery lies somewher in between (or something like that)

Does this make sense at all??!?!?

~~~~~~~~
take it ez
zak

Sarkus
04-27-07, 04:21 AM
An alternative meaning could be that the Face of Bo was telling the Doctor that he doesn't have to go through his travels alone, as he has done. Yes, he's had "companions" - but never a proper relationship. So maybe the FoB was telling him that in his new companion he was not alone - and should finally act on any feelings he has.


Anyhoo - apparently the Master is in this latest series.
From what I hear he's less "evil" and more just misguided and self-absorbed.
Hope they choose a good actor.

Zakariya04
04-27-07, 05:15 AM
An alternative meaning could be that the Face of Bo was telling the Doctor that he doesn't have to go through his travels alone, as he has done. Yes, he's had "companions" - but never a proper relationship. So maybe the FoB was telling him that in his new companion he was not alone - and should finally act on any feelings he has.
.
hI sARKUS,

THANK YOU FOR your analysis

perhaps, but perhaps not

Anyhoo - apparently the Master is in this latest series.
From what I hear he's less "evil" and more just misguided and self-absorbed.
Hope they choose a good actor.

lets hope so.

but perhaps it is not a time lord (the master is a time lord) as the face said you are the last of the time lords and then went on to say you are not alone. which means that it is something else.


well actually i dont really have a clue...

the Master would be great though.

~~~~~~~~~
take it ez
zak

lixluke
04-30-07, 01:02 PM
2) the first doctor actually travelled with his grandaughter, so the doctor may have a son about or something.

Doctor Who has a grandaughter?
????

Zakariya04
04-30-07, 01:25 PM
Doctor Who has a grandaughter?
????

Hey cool Skills

hows it going?

Yes well when Doctor who came out in the 60's he originally travelled with his grandaughter called susan, but i think he left her on earth for some reason, i dont know to much about 60's era Doctor who though.

The doctor is about 900 yrs old, so he must ahve shagged a few birds in his day..

Did you see evolution of the daleks on Saturday? that was ok a bit off key in palces though.

~~~~~~~~~~~
take it ez
zak

Enterprise-D
04-30-07, 01:38 PM
I seem to recall that this is how the whole travel companion thing started...and plausibly why there's always a woman, at least as the main sidekick.

Zakariya04
04-30-07, 01:56 PM
I seem to recall that this is how the whole travel companion thing started...and plausibly why there's always a woman, at least as the main sidekick.

Hello enterprise

I am not sure whetehr it is a ruile about the woman companion thing, but it is usually the case.
however their has been a couple of occasion which i can think of when the Doc had a male companion.

i think the 2nd doctor had a companion called Jamie (a bloke) and the 4th Doctor (tom Baker) had a guy called Adric, who stepped on the scene when romana (who wass quite hot) was left in E-space (as she wanted to adventure around there for some reason), for a few episodes before he meet Tegan and meet back up with nessau (dont know howw you spell her name) in Logopolis

~~~~~~~~~
Take it ez
zak

Enterprise-D
04-30-07, 04:16 PM
Tom Baker had Sarah Jane Smith and various secondary sidekicks. But yes, the Second Doctor did indeed carry along a male companion. Odd, I seem to remember there was a woman attached to the Second Doctor as well.

lixluke
04-30-07, 10:19 PM
i think the 2nd doctor had a companion called Jamie (a bloke) and the 4th Doctor (tom Baker) had a guy called Adric,
Doctor Who is gay? Did he really take male companions? He's Doctor Bi.

If he has been shagging all of those male and female companions for so many centuries, he probably has lots of grandkids and great grandkids.


Why did he keep tell the Daleks to hurry up and shoot him the first time in the park? Has he gone mad? What was the purpose of that strategy? How did he know they were not going to kill him? He actually acted surprised that they didn't. WTF.


I have never seen any of the previos Doctor Who. Only 9 and 10. I can't believe it has been going on so many years, and I never heard of it. Was it that crappy? It must have not gained much popularity.


I know Sarah Jane Smith is that older woman. They made a spin-off about her. Torchwood is the other spinoff that I saw. Those are the only spinoffs I know about.

Pete
04-30-07, 10:40 PM
Hey cool Skills

hows it going?

Yes well when Doctor who came out in the 60's he originally travelled with his grandaughter called susan, but i think he left her on earth for some reason, i dont know to much about 60's era Doctor who though.
He called her his grand-daughter, but she wasn't really. An adoptive grand-daughter, in a way.

Females have always been prominent in the companion roles, and their character is a reasonable barometer of the changing social attitudes to women. The female companions have generally become stronger and more independent throughout the series, being less scream and swoon, and more kick-ass.

Anyway, give the the golden age (3rd, 4th, and 5th doctors) any day :)

Zakariya04
05-01-07, 02:44 AM
Tom Baker had Sarah Jane Smith and various secondary sidekicks. But yes, the Second Doctor did indeed carry along a male companion. Odd, I seem to remember there was a woman attached to the Second Doctor as well.

Hi enterprise D

i think the girl was called Zoe

~~~~~~~~~~
trake it ez
zak

Zakariya04
05-01-07, 03:23 AM
Dear Pete,

hows it going?

good to see another doctor who fan


He called her his grand-daughter, but she wasn't really. An adoptive grand-daughter, in a way.


You are obviously older than me so i will take your word on it.


Females have always been prominent in the companion roles, and their character is a reasonable barometer of the changing social attitudes to women. The female companions have generally become stronger and more independent throughout the series, being less scream and swoon, and more kick-ass.

True,


Anyway, give the the golden age (3rd, 4th, and 5th doctors) any day :)

the 3rd and 4th docs were great the 5th one was ok, however i prefered colin baker (no 6) over peter davison (no 5)


Doctor Who is gay? Did he really take male companions? He's Doctor Bi.
.

Good Morning cool skils


The Doc aint gay as far as i know.


If he has been shagging all of those male and female companions for so many centuries, he probably has lots of grandkids and great grandkids.
.
Just cos they are his companions does not mean he shags them. in fact apart from Rose, their has been no real signs of proper romance between the Doctor and one of his female companions anyway, apart from that joke of a Movie in 1996.

That is why the school reunion with Sarah Jane was a bit wierd, she was going on as if she fancied the pants off him and was properly in love and shit like that, but when Sarah jane was around, the Doctor was Tom baker, hardly fanciable for the girls apart from his charisma as the Doctor and his unrivaled knowledge etc..



Why did he keep tell the Daleks to hurry up and shoot him the first time in the park? Has he gone mad? What was the purpose of that strategy? How did he know they were not going to kill him? He actually acted surprised that they didn't. WTF.
.

He was trying to work out whether they needed him i suppose, espically as Dalek sec stop the others from exterminating him at the beginning. As the Darleks are set to kill he was probably a bit suprise, perhaps he thought that the darleks would elave the humans only if they killed their main enemy



I have never seen any of the previos Doctor Who. Only 9 and 10. I can't believe it has been going on so many years, and I never heard of it. Was it that crappy? It must have not gained much popularity.
.
You should check them out, however they are quite a it different to the ones nowadays.



I know Sarah Jane Smith is that older woman. They made a spin-off about her. Torchwood is the other spinoff that I saw. Those are the only spinoffs I know about.

Apparanetly Captain jack is back for the last 3 episodes of this series which should be fun, espicially if the Master is back, but fuck knows how they are going to explain how he is back though.

Pete any thoughts on the above

Enterprise-D
05-01-07, 10:22 AM
Ah yes Zoe!! I knew that :D

Doctor Who is supposed to be sexless as far as I can tell, he wouldn't be bogged down by gender definitions as we are. He's a Time Lord, driven by 'higher' motivations, but fascinated by what drives humanoids, Terrans in particular. Zak is right tho, the only actual romantic feelings we see the Doctor showing is to Rose.

Just saw the Evolution of the Daleks 'sode...I think the Doctor might have been planning to use another regeneration after getting shot? He was kinda gung-ho for a laser beam to the chest. Dalek Sek looked really odd as a human hybrid :p leave em in the metal casing I say.

Zakariya04
05-01-07, 10:37 AM
Hey Enterprise

Hows it going?

Ah yes Zoe!! I knew that :D

Doctor Who is supposed to be sexless as far as I can tell, he wouldn't be bogged down by gender definitions as we are. He's a Time Lord, driven by 'higher' motivations, but fascinated by what drives humanoids, Terrans in particular. Zak is right tho, the only actual romantic feelings we see the Doctor showing is to Rose.


I agree with The doctor being sexless and into higher motivations.


Just saw the Evolution of the Daleks 'sode...I think the Doctor might have been planning to use another regeneration after getting shot? He was kinda gung-ho for a laser beam to the chest. Dalek Sek looked really odd as a human hybrid :p leave em in the metal casing I say.

Are you sure he would of regenerated after taking a hit from a dalek laser, bearing in mind they disintegrate their targets or so it seems. And what would be the point of using up another regeneration.

I still dotn really understand why he was provoking them so much, its not like he had the tardis shield up his sleave (like in the Parting of the ways) or any other plan like in doomsday, unless he did, but as far as i can see it was to provoke them into revealing what they were up to.

Also at the end why did dalek Khan temproal shift again, he could of exterminated the doctor there and then and then shifted.

Now i think they should forget about the daleks for a season or 2 and concentrate on the Master or something.

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zak

Enterprise-D
05-01-07, 11:21 AM
I also got the feeling that the Doctor was extremely tired of dealing with the Daleks...maybe he was resigned to taking a laser blast and ending it. However, he did withstand a lightning strike, which I imagine - as a planetary level energy discharge - would be a teeny-weeny bit more powerful than a Dalek laser. :) I guess maybe he could take a pot shot or two.

But yes, it seemed to be a contrived way of provoking Dalek Sek into some sort of non violent action.

Dalek Khan shifting could be explained away by the amount of power required to do it...maybe he just didn't have enough power to shoot the Doctor and shift. Perhaps he saw the Doctor's exquisite extermination as a purpose, thus exterminating the Doctor would be an end of purpose. Or maybe it was just the writer's way of bringing back a Doc v Dalek episode once more time. :p

lixluke
05-01-07, 05:31 PM
So there is another timelord since Susan is his granddaughter. He also mentioned in that episode that he had a child right? What was up with that? It was the one in the 2012 olympics when the little girl was possessed, and drawing friends.

So is it true that timelords are genderless? Why has Doctor Who never regenerated into a woman? Why does he always regernerate into a white british bloke? Why not a Chiniman or negro?

Zakariya04
05-02-07, 03:26 AM
Good Morning enterprise D

I hope all is going well with you

I also got the feeling that the Doctor was extremely tired of dealing with the Daleks...maybe he was resigned to taking a laser blast and ending it. However, he did withstand a lightning strike, which I imagine - as a planetary level energy discharge - would be a teeny-weeny bit more powerful than a Dalek laser. :) I guess maybe he could take a pot shot or two.

I just watch Evolution agin last night, and yes you are right, he could have taken a hit from a Dalek, somehow i thought Soloman got completely dis-integrrated by the dalek strik but last night i noticed he did not. he probably would ahve re-generated though, which seems a waste of a life if you ask me, bearing in mind he only 2 or 3 left, not sure how they are going to get around that when the time comes.

But yes, it seemed to be a contrived way of provoking Dalek Sek into some sort of non violent action.


or as you say he was completely fed up with the daleks.




Dalek Khan shifting could be explained away by the amount of power required to do it...maybe he just didn't have enough power to shoot the Doctor and shift. Perhaps he saw the Doctor's exquisite extermination as a purpose, thus exterminating the Doctor would be an end of purpose. Or maybe it was just the writer's way of bringing back a Doc v Dalek episode once more time. :p
yes you are probably right, and of course as you say they needed to let a dalek live so they can have another dalek episode of sorts.

So there is another timelord since Susan is his granddaughter. He also mentioned in that episode that he had a child right? What was up with that? It was the one in the 2012 olympics when the little girl was possessed, and drawing friends.
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hello CoolSkillz

hows it going?

yes i forgot about that, which is why what the Face of Boe said in gridlock is so significant, as far as i am concerned this is the real thing which series 3 revolves round.


So is it true that timelords are genderless? Why has Doctor Who never regenerated into a woman? Why does he always regernerate into a white british bloke? Why not a Chiniman or negro?


i dont know whetehr they are genderless as far as we are concerned, rather they just dont give a shit to much about shagging and the like, as time lords or a well superior race and shit. baically i dont have a clue, but thats what fasciniates me about it all

On a slightly different note, the tardis is meant to be fucking huge, and in the new series' they have not taken us further than the console room.

In the classic series (espically around docs 4 and 5)there were some episodes whjere you would actually see other parts fo the tradis.

remeber castravla and logopolis? we got to see also the rooms of some fo the companions and so on.

Also in one of to m bakers episodes you actually found out that the tradis had a swimmign pool!!! i only saw part of that adventure once, so the memory is kinda sketchy and i cant remember much about it. does anyone have any ideas?

So basically for series 3 we need more tardis interior and the Master.

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take it ez
zak

Zakariya04
05-22-07, 09:45 AM
So has anyone got any ideas about this Mr Saxon sub plot.

the most interesting part of the series if you ask me.

eburacum45
05-26-07, 04:45 AM
Also in one of Tom Baker's episodes you actually found out that the tardis had a swimming pool!!! i only saw part of that adventure once, so the memory is kinda sketchy and i cant remember much about it. does anyone have any ideas?

I remember that one;
The Invasion of Time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invasion_of_Time).
it involved a chase through the rarely-used parts of the Tardis. These were lots of corridors, a small pool and some sort of bridge. It looked like a small disused leisure centre.

Apparently Peter Davidson jettisoned a large proportion of the mass of the Tardis to gain extra thrust in the serial Castrovalva (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castrovalva); perhaps the swimming pool was in that mass. Today's Tardis is of an undefined extent; a lot of water has flowed under the bridge since Castrovalva, and it could be any size.

Pete
05-26-07, 05:06 AM
Leela was seen swimming in the Tardis pool in that story set (which was her last).
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l165/4thDrWhoFan/LEELAWEB3.jpg

Oli
05-26-07, 05:10 AM
So has anyone got any ideas about this Mr Saxon sub plot.
I had just assumed he was the current "guy from Torchwood", and that they're doing their best to capture or eradicate the Doctor.
Damn, now I'm wondering. :eek:

orcot
05-26-07, 10:27 AM
So has anyone got any ideas about this Mr Saxon sub plot.
I'm also guessing that it's a crossover with torchwood but the actor that Mr Saxon is John Simm (the guy from life on mars [that by the way was extremely good])

Anti-Flag
05-28-07, 09:20 PM
I've had a few spoilers for weeks which are now coming to light in the series but I won't share them unless asked. Not sure I'm convinced about this weeks episode, hoping they'll answer questions about the watch, like how if she was supposed to open it to bring him back, it hasn't brought him back when somebody else opened it? As always I'm either too observant or I missed something.

One thing you're correct on is the torchwood crossover, in fact one episode will join and continue from the point torchwood finished.

Zakariya04
05-29-07, 02:55 AM
I've had a few spoilers for weeks which are now coming to light in the series but I won't share them unless asked. Not sure I'm convinced about this weeks episode, hoping they'll answer questions about the watch, like how if she was supposed to open it to bring him back, it hasn't brought him back when somebody else opened it? As always I'm either too observant or I missed something.

One thing you're correct on is the torchwood crossover, in fact one episode will join and continue from the point torchwood finished.

Dear MR Flaf,

i hope you are well.

please reveal the spoilers, hopefully i ahve nto heard htem before. pls PM me if you may in politness to the others.

Thanks Pete and Ebucuram for the info.

Buggers knows what the tardis is like now, i a sure the DOC can just chop and change it when he wants, adding rooms and taken them away.

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zak

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zak

Anti-Flag
06-16-07, 10:10 AM
I've just watched a series 10 episode and its dawned on me that the sphere in the last two episodes containing the cult of skaro broke down the barrier between two worlds, so did it come from the alternative universe? If so then the ones killed in new york after the temporal shift would have come from there so wouldn't the cult of skaro still exist?

Oli
06-16-07, 11:26 AM
I've just watched a series 10 episode and its dawned on me that the sphere in the last two episodes containing the cult of skaro broke down the barrier between two worlds, so did it come from the alternative universe?
No, it was a "lifeboat" from the "real" universe that was used to save some of the Daleks during the final war (how many "final wars" have there been?). It went into a sort of limbo, and came through when the Cybermen started p*ssing about...

If so then the ones killed in new york after the temporal shift would have come from there so wouldn't the cult of skaro still exist?
Nope see above.
What really scared me was that there were four Daleks and they were planning on becoming more human-looking.
Can you think of four humanoids with technological appendages bent on taking over the world?



Tinkwinky, Lala, Dipsy, Po - RUUUUN!!!

Zakariya04
06-18-07, 02:57 AM
Hello Oli and all

I hope you had good weekends

Just wondering what you thought of the return of the Master?

What intrigues me is how they are going to explain it? Wasn't he last time we saw suck into the eye of harmony in the tardis and secondly he had run out of regenerations

So now they have to answer 2 questions how did he get out of the eye of harmiony and 2, where did the new regenerations come from?

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take it ez
zak

Anti-Flag
06-18-07, 01:00 PM
No, it was a "lifeboat" from the "real" universe that was used to save some of the Daleks during the final war (how many "final wars" have there been?). It went into a sort of limbo, and came through when the Cybermen started p*ssing about...
Interesting, I was waiting to watch the second part but it hasn't been on, I remember the doctor saying you can't travel between parallel worlds, and being in the 'voidspace' between presumably is what opens up the rift. I didn't really get how the daleks put themselves into this void and then came back out of it. My understanding was the sphere started all that crap but the humans opened it up more and the cybermen exploited it. Seeing as the sphere had zero mass/energy/ all other readings they lost me. So basically it's possible to place yourself in the void and wait? So the great time war would have taken place before the events of this particular episode unless you can travel back in time in the void.

I'm aware I overthink things.:D

What really scared me was that there were four Daleks and they were planning on becoming more human-looking.
There's never only four daleks, there's millions of them in the void alone.... I sense a comeback;)

Anti-Flag
06-18-07, 01:09 PM
Just wondering what you thought of the return of the Master?
Be interesting to see where it goes from here, probably build a new tardis.

What intrigues me is how they are going to explain it? Wasn't he last time we saw suck into the eye of harmony in the tardis and secondly he had run out of regenerations

So now they have to answer 2 questions how did he get out of the eye of harmiony and 2, where did the new regenerations come from?
Interesting. Seeing as he's a time traveller I'd presume it's only his 4th regeneration or something. How many have been confirmed before?

Zakariya04
06-19-07, 02:47 AM
Hi Anti Flag

i hope all is good with you.

Be interesting to see where it goes from here, probably build a new tardis.


their are 2 solutions too this in my opinion

1) The doctor fucks around with jacks Time ring device thing with his sonice screw driver and gets it working
2) The Master must have had a Tardis (even though the last time we saw him he did not), cos how the hell did he get that far in the future, so therefore they could look for his tradis and use it.


Interesting. Seeing as he's a time traveller I'd presume it's only his 4th regeneration or something. How many have been confirmed before?

Well apprently the Master used up all his regnerations long ago (tom Baker era), and it was only in the Story "Keeper of Traken" where he harnessed some ancient power to posses a new body. during the era of Tom Baker you see the Master as some decaying old wreck in in his last regeneration, and he was for ever trying to find ways of gaining a new body or regenerations.

he kept this form for the 5th doc, 6th doc and the 7th doc. When the movie came out in the 90's with paul McCann (8th doc) the Master had been esxecuted/sentenced to death on Skaro (the home planet of the daleks)and the Doc was to transport him (as some sort of an energy worm force thing) back to gallifreye, however things went wrong and the Master possessed another body. At the end of the film he had a fight with the doc and ended up in the eye of harmony of the tardis which you woudl assume there is no coming back from.

So these questions need to be answered
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zak