In the Wealth and Religiosity thread posts keep getting deleted with no explanation or any trace. They just vanish. I complained about it in the thread. I then got a PM from Sandy saying that mods who disagree with you will just do that: just delete posts without saying anything at all. It doesn't even say who did it. It's like they're editing the past.

I've heard of this kind of behavior from mods before, but it never happened to me before... or else I naively thought there was some glitch in the forum software. Now it's definitely been happening to me. It sucks. I definitely used to like this place. It used to have good posters and still does, but they've dwindled massively. But now I can finally see why everyone is leaving. Because some of the mods here fucking suck and are ruining it with their agenda pushing censorship.

Other people I know have run into this problem. Sandy just PMed me and told me that it will happen if certain mods don't agree with you. I was wondering how widespread this abuse of mod privileges runs. So enter your stuff. I just hope the data don't get edited or that this entire thread disappears. If this behavior on the part of mods continues, I'm out of here.

It's in the rules.

Yes, happened to me in the same thread. The problem is more the lack of notification. let's say if there was one "offensive' word in my post, I would just resubmit it without it, if I actually know about the delete.

I think the website automatically should send a PM when your post gets deleted so:

1. You can learn from your "mistake".
2. You would have the opportunity to resubmit a cleaner version.

But just deleting like now makes this website a joke. I don't mind if VERY harsh language gets deleted, but just a stupid remark. Really, like a kindergarten...

P.S.: I never namecall. I never called anyone stupid without being able to back up the claim! :)

Well i have had some disappear but i realize that when i post in religion forum that a mod or two may have an aversion to what i post and cannot help but delete it.

I dont mind the preaching either, mostly i dont read it but the problem i have is how selective it is. if your Muslim you can post full page sermons if you Christian you get whipped into submission by a mod or two. Either way i hardly read the long past job sermons but the double standard which is not the policy of sciforums just a few mods ispretty comical.

francois: yes the mods can do that, its generally used as a way to remove something without moving you along the ban prociders as a gesture of kindness. The other option is to remove something and leave an offical warning along in its place which means the next thing you do will get you a day off.

If you think something was unfairly deleted just PM the mod for that section for a review or PM james, styder or plazma (you may have to wait longer for a responce from those guys because they arnt here as much as the mods)

You know Asguard you may have a propensity for becoming a dictator.

whatever. I am not even the mod for religion, i was trying to rationally show you WHY its done.

Ops it wasnt in religion, well im not the mod in S&S either

francois: yes the mods can do that, its generally used as a way to remove something without moving you along the ban prociders as a gesture of kindness. The other option is to remove something and leave an offical warning along in its place which means the next thing you do will get you a day off.

If you think something was unfairly deleted just PM the mod for that section for a review or PM james, styder or plazma (you may have to wait longer for a responce from those guys because they arnt here as much as the mods)

Let me tell you what really bothers me. It's the whole Editing the Past thing. I can understand editing a post, or deleting a post if there's a good reason, and if that reason is explicitly given, right there, right where the thread was, so other people can know that content was deleted. However, that's not happening. Shit's just vanishing without a trace, like it was never there in the first place. That cannot be in the rules.

I'm not going to complain about it to one person. I'm going to try to get whoever's doing this punished or try to get mods to stop doing it.

Let me repeat myself:

I'm not against the mod privilege of to delete or edit posts when there is a good reason, and then giving a comprehensive and concise explanation right there in the thread where the post used to be. I am, however, against mods causing posts to just vanish with no explanation whatsoever and with no trace of the deleted posts from ever existing at all. That's my beef. And like Syzygys says, it makes the site a joke.

I like all the mods, but to assume they would be unbiased is just not realistic. First of all someone took the most opinionated\active posters and mad them mods...how can that work without problems?

Im not really intested in debating this. I will however say that mods are NOT paid, and dont have unlimited time. If the same crap is being posted again and again i doubt that ANYONE (including you) would have the time or the inclination to post a reason WHY every single post was delete.

If you want to complain about it go ahead, i just dont think your going to get any satisfaction

And for sandy Im NOT the root of all evil and im NOT a supermod. I dont have the power to do anything in this so please stop blaming me for every decision here

Try reading the moderation FAQ in the subforum.

Or try using a PM instead of cluttering the thread.

Im not really intested in debating this. I will however say that mods are NOT paid, and dont have unlimited time. If the same crap is being posted again and again i doubt that ANYONE (including you) would have the time or the inclination to post a reason WHY every single post was delete.

What's so hard about writing a single concise sentence, some tiny explanation? How hard is it to leave a TRAIL of evidence that something is being edited. If they can't handle that, they shouldn't be mods in the first place. I don't have the time or patience for such courtesies, and therefore, would decline if offered a moderator's position. And no offense man, but as a mod, shouldn't you be able to use decent spelling and grammar?

You see, what the mods are doing is more pernicious than what you lead on. I know there is at least more than one way to delete something. For example you can delete a post that says "Post by so-and-so was deleted by so-and-so, for some reason." To do that might take a few seconds longer than just deleting a post without a trace, without any evidence that anything is being tampered with. Mods should be prepared to take a few seconds before editing and deleting content to give an explanation or give evidence that something is being deleted or, perhaps most importantly, who, is doing the deleting. It's more than lazy. It stinks of agenda pushing, because if the mods are unwilling to give an explanation, that means that they don't want people to know who is doing the deleting or why. They don't want people to know. Very questionable.


If you want to complain about it go ahead, i just dont think your going to get any satisfaction
Yes, that's right, encourage people to not complain or do something about an abusive authority.

I will however say that mods are NOT paid, and dont have unlimited time.

I see it as a software problem. To make it easy, there should be a few options next to the Delete button for the Moderator that would leave a message instead of the deleted post:

Post deleted for:
-offensive language
-being offtopic
-abuse of other poster
etc.

(3-4 options would /should be sufficient)

This way it won't take extra time for the Mods, they just click on the appropriate button and end of story... It would also automatically send a PM to the poster...

Is that really too hard to prgram???

As i just said the place to "complain" is first to the mod in question and then to plazma. He owns the site so its HIS authority to do whatever he wishes.

Edit to add, that is actually something you should take up with plazma. I have no idea what the software can handle

And if you're batch deleting 40-60 posts for meaningless content, flaming, trolling, offtopic etc?

Then perhaps a mechanism should be in place to notify Plazma when a post is flagged for deletion and then ther post will be hidden temporarily until a judgement is made.

Your kidding right?

firstly the posts are not "deleted" as you think of them, they are still there for viewing by the mods of the section, the super mods and the admins

Secondly why would plazma want to dig through every deleted post EVERYDAY?????

Do you know how many things on here are deleted in a day? i dont but i would assume its alot if you took every post on every board into account

Why are people so damn whiny? If you hate the moderators and their system so much, then it's probably a good idea to leave Sciforums. Leaving an explanation for every deleted post is superfluous and unnecessary. In all likelihood, whoever had their post deleted is going to complain, full explanation or not.

And if you're batch deleting 40-60 posts for meaningless content, flaming, trolling, offtopic etc?

Don't get your problem. I understand it is not easy, that's why the program modification would help. It would requiry you 1 click more....

In all likelihood, whoever had their post deleted is going to complain, full explanation or not.

Not if he/she is not even AWARE of it. And again, I still don't know who to complain, because I don't know who deleted the posts...

P.S.: Anyway, done with this, not expecting any change anytime soon...

Why are people so damn whiny? If you hate the moderators and their system so much, then it's probably a good idea to leave Sciforums. Leaving an explanation for every deleted post is superfluous and unnecessary. In all likelihood, whoever had their post deleted is going to complain, full explanation or not.
Whiney, huh? That's an interesting take. I see abuse of mod privileges and want to confront the issue, and I'm called a whiner? That's brilliant, mate, brilliant.

I don't hate moderators. I'm sure most of them do a fine job, like Fraggle Rocker, for instance. However, at least a few of the mods here are using this place as a platform to push their agenda, but whatever means they see fit, which includes abusing privileges.

How is a brief explanation for deleted posts superfluous and unnecessary? I see it simply playing the role of a mod: being fair and conscientious. And if they're not up to that task, they shouldn't have chosen to become mods in the first place.

Not if he/she is not even AWARE of it. And again, I still don't know who to complain, because I don't know who deleted the posts...



Check which subforum the thread belongs to and look here (http://www.sciforums.com/showgroups.php) for the moderator(s).
PM any one of them and they will respond.

Whiney, huh? That's an interesting take. I see abuse of mod privileges and want to confront the issue, and I'm called a whiner? That's brilliant, mate, brilliant.

I don't hate moderators. I'm sure most of them do a fine job, like Fraggle Rocker, for instance. However, at least a few of the mods here are using this place as a platform to push their agenda, but whatever means they see fit, which includes abusing privileges.

It's a webforum. Get over it...

How is a brief explanation for deleted posts superfluous and unnecessary? I see it simply playing the role of a mod: being fair and conscientious. And if they're not up to that task, they shouldn't have chosen to become mods in the first place.

It's superfluous because you're not the only person whose posts are being deleted. Look at it from their perspective - do you really want to give an explanation for every post you delete (especially in threads involving shorty, enmos, sam, and orleander)?

Check which subforum the thread belongs to and look here (http://www.sciforums.com/showgroups.php) for the moderator(s).
PM any one of them and they will respond.

If a forum has 2-3 Moderators and I complain to the wrong one, that is increasing the workload of them. I wouldn't want to do that.... :rolleyes:

And again, in a fast growing thread there is a good chance I would NEVER notice the deletion.

P.S.: Formal Debates has 8 (!!!) moderators...

If a forum has 2-3 Moderators and I complain to the wrong one, that is increasing the workload of them. I wouldn't want to do that.... :rolleyes:

No it won't, they'll merely respond to the best of their ability and post a thread in the mod forum for clarification.

Syzygys for starters most of the times the mods will actually leave a message as to why the post was deleted. Its just not visible to the general posters. Of corse if there are 50 posts in a row deleted en mass then there probably wont be or it will be the same reason posted for all of them but either way if you PM a mod and its the wrong one then they can at least direct you to the corect mod (because we CAN see who did what)

I'm guessing that at least a third of my posts are deleted and several threads.
Maybe staying out of the forums of the mod who warns/threatens/deletes/bans you the most--is a good idea. The problem is when you have 10 minutes to respond to 50 posts and 50 PMs, it's hard to remember who mods
where. :confused:

It's also frustrating to post well-researched, well-documented, well-linked posts only to have them deleted. You can't redo 15 minutes of research all over again...

Duh yup Asguard is right.

It's also frustrating to post well-researched, well-documented, well-linked posts only to have them deleted. You can't redo 15 minutes of research all over again...

LOL, like Obama is a secret Muslim, or Obama is a secret agent for Al Qaeda...

Tehehe.

It's a webforum. Get over it...
That's not an argument. That's just a "Shut the fuck up."

Good job.

It's superfluous because you're not the only person whose posts are being deleted. Look at it from their perspective - do you really want to give an explanation for every post you delete (especially in threads involving shorty, enmos, sam, and orleander)?

No, I don't want to give an explanation for every post I delete, because I'm not a mod and I don't want to be a mod. You make it out like an explanation is necessarily a pain in the ass. It doesn't have to be. I'm just saying Say something, give a brief explanation, give some indication that something is being deleted or edited, so at least people know censoring is going on. That's it. That's all I'm saying. That should go without saying. If they're not up for something so simple, they should not be moderators.

I didn't know we could make posts disappear. If I delete something, there remains a post that says "deleted" (and I usually post a note as to why).

I'm guessing that at least a third of my posts are deleted and several threads.
Maybe staying out of the forums of the mod who warns/threatens/deletes/bans you the most--is a good idea. The problem is when you have 10 minutes to respond to 50 posts and 50 PMs, it's hard to remember who mods
where. :confused:

It's also frustrating to post well-researched, well-documented, well-linked posts only to have them deleted. You can't redo 15 minutes of research all over again...

Just do an internet search of your user name and the thread or your post, I have found that even though deleted from here things still remain.

In any case the deleted post should be automatically sent via PM to the author, with annotations, so that the author might, as francois said, refine it and resubmit it. When it simply vanishes into the ether, it is impossible to recreate the information.

I promised to be done with this, but I just would like to point out the incredible expression of illogical thinking done by a moderator:

Syzygys for starters most of the times the mods will actually leave a message as to why the post was deleted. Its just not visible to the general posters.

In plain English (since 99% of the users happen to be NOT a moderator) there is NO message.
You could refer to the moderator's board too, that is practically non-existing for the general public. What good does it make for the general user an invisible message??? :eek: :bugeye: :shrug:

Do your posts often vanish without a trace?

Yes, as well as my money! Damn stock brokers!!:mad:

Spider those message lines are only visable to mods.
Syzygys thats not our fault, its the software. My point was that as mods CAN see those lines if you PM the wrong mod they can at the very least point you to the mod who did delete it

Yes in fact they are vanishing right now in the G spot thread. What the fuk is the point of having a discussion to find numerous posts just gone. Then when you simply ask why are you deleting the posts?........That gets deleted too. This seems to happen whenever posting in SAMS threads.

In the Wealth and Religiosity thread posts keep getting deleted with no explanation or any trace. They just vanish. I complained about it in the thread. I then got a PM from Sandy saying that mods who disagree with you will just do that: just delete posts without saying anything at all. It doesn't even say who did it. It's like they're editing the past.

I've heard of this kind of behavior from mods before, but it never happened to me before... or else I naively thought there was some glitch in the forum software. Now it's definitely been happening to me. It sucks. I definitely used to like this place. It used to have good posters and still does, but they've dwindled massively. But now I can finally see why everyone is leaving. Because some of the mods here fucking suck and are ruining it with their agenda pushing censorship.

Other people I know have run into this problem. Sandy just PMed me and told me that it will happen if certain mods don't agree with you. I was wondering how widespread this abuse of mod privileges runs. So enter your stuff. I just hope the data don't get edited or that this entire thread disappears. If this behavior on the part of mods continues, I'm out of here.


I quit posting here for a while because of this - nothing is more frustrating. Sam is the mod that does this most often.

I quit posting here for a while because of this - nothing is more frustrating. Sam is the mod that does this most often.


You gotta watch ole buttshield too. quicky on the delete trigger, that one.

shorty, perhaps you could let me know why these posts should have been left in the Biology forum, where these rules are clearly posted. Remember, I have not deleted all these posts.


Moderation in Biology and Genetics forum is aimed at creating a scientific atmosphere for the discussion of topics related to the forum. All discussions must be evidence based, with peer reviewed data as the basis for argumentation.To that extent, moderation may include moving, editing and deletion of threads as well as posts that are not relevant to this sub forum . Locked threads may be reopened if genuine interest is expressed in the topic; posters may avail of this by sending a PM to me. All posts will be judged on a case by case basis with a strict bias towards the scientific method. The reasons for moderation will be given except when posts/threads are deleted/cesspooled. Trolling in this forum will not be tolerated.
Issues with any posts in this subforum may be communicated to me either directly by PM or using the report button next to the questionable post.
Issues with the moderation in this sub forum may be discussed in SF Open Government or Site Feedback.
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=64638

Shortys last few posts in Biology and genetics (some have been deleted)


huh? confused:

Cosmic is desperate at this point. I mean who else is going to put
up with a man who gives out dried apples for halloween! D


No idea, gotta ask cosmic. All I know is the kids don't like
him very much p

And when they found it did they give it back to it's rightful owner? :p

Isn't it called the "P" spot for men

Exit ONLY!

Yes and no I didn't blame it on being drunk :rolleyes

No was referring to the post above that women who admit to trying it
blame it on being drunk.


Oh come on......Brokeback Mountain doesn't even show anything.

Ohhhhh you can't even handle the kissing part? Ok don't watch it then.
Don't worry my b/f wouldn't go see it with me either. I made him watch the DVD though.p


Well there is the part in the tent, where it all starts. You know exactly what they are doing, but they don't show very much.

You can't blame not having an orgasm entirely on the man.

If that is the case I eat A LOT of strawberries, which would mean I should be turning red

That is how I had my first one.

Obviously she wouldn't haven't known how to do it LMAO!!!

Oh god my son is 11 eek:


I rather not think about it....he will be 12 in July
This might explain however the frequent showers he is now taking
all on his own. The thought has already crossed my mind.
It wasn't even 3 mnths...


I haven't encountered these men.

I have my own bathroom thank god!! :p

Why are you deleting all the posts????

Maybe you could also post the other members posts that I was answering?? Why shouldn't they have been left, I was
answering other posters.

I'm referring to your contributions. Which ones of the posts do you wish to restore for its contributions based on the scientific method and evidence based peer reviewed data?

I'm referring to your contributions. Which ones of the posts do you wish to restore for its contributions based on the scientific method and evidence based peer reviewed data?

Holy crap! You are claiming this, after all the pointless one-liners you've posted? You have absolutely no concept of how you are viewed on this forum, do you?

Hmmm well i was confused about a comment....so what?

Discussed Brokeback mountain with Fraggle Rock....so what?

I have heard the male G spot referred to as the P spot..(look it up) So what?

They asked a womans opinion on anal sex.......I said exit only for me........So what?

They said men are responsible for Womens Orgasms........ I said men are not entirely responsible for women to orgasm .........so what?

Lord something or others said MEN just want to please themselves during sex......I said I havent encountered these men........so what?

Can you please explain how this is trolling? Responding to other members questions only to have you delete them?

IMO as moderator, those are just troll posts.
If you feel otherwise, please ask Plazma/James to restore these posts.

Holy crap! You are claiming this, after all the pointless one-liners you've posted? You have absolutely no concept of how you are viewed on this forum, do you?

Please feel free to petition the mods of the relevant forums.

I'm referring to your contributions. Which ones of the posts do you wish to restore for its contributions based on the scientific method and evidence based peer reviewed data?

Hmmm well i was confused about a comment....so what?

Discussed Brokeback mountain with Fraggle Rock WHICH HE BROUGHT UP....so what?

I have heard the male G spot referred to as the P spot..(look it up) So what?

THEY asked a womans opinion on anal sex.......I said exit only for me........So what?

They said men are responsible for Womens Orgasms........ I said men are not entirely responsible for women to orgasm .........so what?

Lord something or others said MEN just want to please themselves during sex......I said I havent encountered these men........so what?

Can you please explain how this is trolling? Responding to other members questions only to have you delete them? Especially since I did not bring up half these discussions other members did.

I'm going to let Plazma answer this question.

I agree with shorty. If you're going to delete conversational "AOL" posts of that sort, you've got a lot more deleting to do.

I'll leave anything that has at least some contribution to the discussion, even if its humor related to the OP.

And I did not delete all of shortys posts either, only the ones directed at other members, her personal bio and most irrelevance

I'll leave anything that has at least some contribution to the discussion, even if its humor related to the OP.

Nah, better go on with the clear-cutting method you've applied to the G-Spot forum, otherwise you wouldn't be doing your job of censoring and selectively editing a friendly and funny thread.

See, if another mod applied this rule to you, your post count would be cut in half. So better to be consistently bad, than erratically bad, right?

I'll leave anything that has at least some contribution to the discussion, even if its humor related to the OP.



All my answers contributed to the discussion.....

Its Biology and Genetics. Not AOL chatroom.

Its Biology and Genetics. Not AOL chatroom.

Really I am still working on all the posts that were left in there.........No BETTER than mine..... Than you can explain why those are all left.

Please report the posts you feel are unsuitable

If I think they do not contribute to the discussion, I will delete them.

Really I am still working on all the posts that were left in there.........No BETTER than mine..... Than you can explain why those are all left.

Better be careful, she's got her banninating stick out. LV was just banished for agreeing with her.

Okay well you can answer why these posts have been left in the SAME thread and how they are ANY different than mine. How are these contributions of Scientific method and evidence. Why did you choose to leave these but DELETE ALOT of mine? (these arent' even all of them, I gave up!!!) Yet you single me out for my FEW POSTS?????? Mine were more on topic than some of this stuff said by....hmmmmm Scientists?


The only G spot every woman I have ever met has is MONEY!

* Calmly licks eyebrows and assumes air of smugness*



yeah, hookers are like that. :D

Ugh. I started reading about the male G-spot, AKA the prostate. I'm drunk right now, but not drunk enough to read about the male prostate mastrubation techniques.:shrug:

With the right woman , I'm always obliging!

oh myles, you've never been kissed?

LOL, blow you one. hmmmm, I guess that's where the oral stimulation sex act gets its name huh?


I'm talking dollars and cents here, bud. Removes seegar from mouth. So,what's your angle ? Let's run it up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes it.
Courtesy of Reader's Disgust, towards more colourful language

hehe
a gem if there ever was one
frag is the greatest read

Quit hitting on frag.

By Orleander's hands?


:D

yeah, spud, you have to be careful of those doctors who do anal exams with their penis.



Alright so I tried this thing this morning, being the naturally curious and dorky scientist that I am. But I'll have you know I tried THE EXTERNAL VERSION. I'm not sure I knew what I was doing, the only thing I can tell you is that my legs were fucking trembling uncontrolably at some points, I don't know if that was an orgams but I felt like it could lead to some full bodied orgasmic sensation.




When he took my pulse, I complained. He said " what seems to be your complaint ". I said " prostrate complaint, can you fix it?"
So he probed my anus and came to the conclusion that my frequent alien insertions had weakened the walls of my sphincter and he feared I may have even wrecked 'em.

And YES I would like to make a Complaint to Plazma.
Plazma I have provided Evidence of the posts that were left in the Same thread
I am being accused of TROLLING. You can see above what she considered Trolling and I also explained my responses to other members above. It is frustrating that SAM deletes ALOT of my posts on a regular basis. Yet she leaves posts that are the SAME or even WORSE in tact. I would like an explanation of how my posts are any different than I have posted above in the same thread. I would also like it if you would read through that thread and see the WHOLE tone that took place in there. Yet I am being singled out for Trolling.

It is obvious SAM doesn't like me, but does that make it okay to delete my posts on a regular basis.

She is saying that she is deleting my posts because they do not contribute Scientific Method or Evidence. Please let me know how the above posts
that remain in the thread do.

Thanks Shorty

Please report the posts you feel are unsuitable

If I think they do not contribute to the discussion, I will delete them.

It seems no matter what your "buddies" say it contributes to the discussion.
Scientific or not...... How is blowing kisses to another member, talking about hookers alien probes
and an actual play by play of someone doing their own sexual experiment,
contributing on the standards of your thread you are HOLDING ME TO?
Plus why do I have to report them. You are the boss there right? You have no problem deleting my posts. Why aren't you just deleting theirs as well, why do you need a report all of a sudden :confused:


This favouritism with you really is going too far.

My posts disappear without a trace for me to see, I know they are there. And we still don't know if I and we apologize to Gods... I don't suppose you and them would even notice, well we could but only in our mind, the threads will be gone forever.

Thanks for the reports. Thread has been moved to moderation queue for editing and will not be available until moderation is completed

I'm going to let Plazma answer this question.

Why don't you answer it! Plazma isn't the one deleting my posts but leaving the exact same posts by other members left in the thread. I have given you examples of what you have left in the thread. I would like you to explain why you did not choose to delete those. Since you say it is not a chat room and you want FACTS!!! what do the above posts contribute that mine did not :confused:

Do your posts often vanish without a trace?

No, but my mind sometimes does! :)

Posts? Try a whole thread. The 'french doctors find g spot' one disappeared while I was posting in it.

Moderators are given power of Gods here, 16 of them waging war over each other and us. I am fine as a subordinate in this world of this forum, I am fine...I wouldn't dare to raise finger on my own Gods, 16 of them. Their shining eyes overseeing behind me.

Moderators are given power of Gods here, 16 of them waging war over each other and us. I am fine as a subordinate in this world of this forum, I am fine...I wouldn't dare to raise finger on my own Gods, 16 of them. Their shining eyes overseeing behind me.

16???SODASI!!!!THE PERFECT NUMBER!!!!!!16

hmmm.....6...6....6/16ths....????

No, that has nothing to do with the Moderators!!!
Just a curious combination of numbers...

oh yeah, I lost two of mes preciouses:bawl:.

For one, I screwed up. What a loss that beauty was? Only one made it in time to say something and now he is number two.
For two, My Incredible thread:Why are Lesbians so uber Hot and Sexy?
I mean...isn't this one of the most important questions ever?

wow Jozen, maybe that's why posts vanish without a trace.
;)

Posts? Try a whole thread. The 'french doctors find g spot' one disappeared while I was posting in it.

It will be available after cleanup.


Threads may disappear for a maximum of 48 hours if moved into moderation queue for editing. This will be the case if there are many offtopic, baiting or meaningless posts. If too many of such posts are present the thread will be locked. Anyone wishing to continue the debate may PM me for a fresh thread on the same topic. Threads opened without PM will be immediately locked/deleted.

wow Jozen, maybe that's why posts vanish without a trace.

:bawl::bawl::bawl:

It will be available after cleanup.

http://gallery.michaelyon-online.com/images/photos/Killing-Field-Memorial.jpg

Yep, no biggie.
thanks!

It will be available after cleanup.

What is clean up?

http://gallery.michaelyon-online.com/images/photos/Killing-Field-Memorial.jpg

Oh yeah!!!
Lovely isn't it?
:):)

What is clean up?

http://www.pb.unimelb.edu.au/emergency/template-assets-custom/images/fire-hazchem-cleanup.jpg

I take it the bin is full of baby diapers.

Shitload of crap.

Olreander...???

Are you Spongeworthy?:confused:

Shitload of crap.

Is that a double meaning?

Jozen,
No, only men are spongeworthy.

Why is that?

ah, not a Seinfeld fan I take it?

I thought the show was funny. Though I always felt like I was wasting my time when I watched it.

How are the posts on this page not trolling?

What is trolling, anyways?

How is ORLEANDER AND JOZEN not trolling this thread?

What is trolling, anyways?

Depends on who is moderating. All moderators define their own rules for trolling and moderating.

In general:

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion

On sciforums, the science forums are moderated more strictly than the nonscience (or nonsense :D) forums.

Olreander...???

Are you Spongeworthy?:confused:

Trolling

Jozen,
No, only men are spongeworthy.

Trolling

ah, not a Seinfeld fan I take it?

Trolling

I thought the show was funny. Though I always felt like I was wasting my time when I watched it.

Trolling .......What does any of this stuff have to do with this thread or site feedback.

Depends on who is moderating. All moderators define their own rules for trolling and moderating.

In general:

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion

On sciforums, the science forums are moderated more strictly than the nonscience (or nonsense :D) forums.

That is very good to know!

Shorty seems to think that Orleneader and myself are currently in a troll process if I understand her quote just now, "shorty 37- "How is ORLEANDER AND JOZEN not trolling this thread?"".

What is it that is making us two trolls right now Shorty 37? That is, in your opinion?

Trolling .......What does this have to do with this thread or site feedback.

Maybe the thread will get cleaned up and we will then find out that it has more to do with the thread then you think?

Maybe you are Trolling?

Trolling

Trolling

Trolling

Trolling .......What does this have to do with this thread or site feedback.

Interestingly as shorty is not a moderator of this forum, all of the above, which are intended to derail the main discussion or bait other members are also trolling.

The correct response would be to

1. report the post, or

2. PM the moderator.

I take it that Trolling can kill a thread then?

No the other trolls are derailing the discussion. That way you SAM don't have to answer the questions I asked you. The ones that actually do belong in this thread.

am I the only one who hears a consistent high pitched WHINE!!!!
OMG will it never end?

I take it that Trolling can kill a thread then?

Sometimes it can lead to a more stimulating discussion. Which is why I generally leave troll posts in the thread for a day or so to see if they are going anywhere.

Some posters can initiate meaningful and valuable discussions even from diversions. Others are just mental confetti better consigned to the bin asap.

I take it that Trolling can kill a thread then?

Or prevent something from crossing a bridge...like the 3 billy goats...only in this case the development of the thread from getting across new information or insight.

Sometimes it can lead to a more stimulating discussion. Which is why I generally leave troll posts in the thread for a day or so to see if they are going anywhere.

Some posters can initiate meaningful and valuable discussions even from diversions. Others are just mental confetti better consigned to the bin asap.

I have to agree!

Is this thread going anywhere?

Or prevent something from crossing a bridge...like the 3 billy goats...only in this case the development of the thread from getting across new information or insight.

Correct.

e.g. Orleanders comment on kissing in the Gspot thread, led to a response related to oral stimulation. Since they can further lead to a progressive discussion on oral stimulation and gspot, even though the initial post was not meaningful, it can lead to an interesting diversion related to the OP.

1. report the post, or

2. PM the moderator.

There is MOD right here YOU? Why aren't you stepping in with the trolling?

Wait, we know why right...... Yet you just banned someone today for trolling, and deleted my posts for trolling........You are are real joke!

I have to agree!

Is this thread going anywhere?

Of course, we are having a meaningful discussion on why some posts do not disappear. :)

Correct.

e.g. Orleanders comment on kissing in the Gspot thread, led to a response related to oral stimulation. Since they can further lead to a progressive discussion on oral stimulation and gspot, even though the initial post was not meaningful, it can lead to an interesting diversion related to the OP.

OP is Original Point if my guess is correct.

Since the question of this thread is: Do you posts often vanish without a trace, its simple question could easily lead to a discussion about why. And now it looks like we have a growing answer. The diversion looped back into the OP.

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts irrelevant or off-topic messages intention of baiting other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion



Oh you mean like this that has nothing to do with this topic:

am I the only one who hears a consistent high pitched WHINE!!!!
OMG will it never end?

Jozen,
No, only men are spongeworthy.

ah, not a Seinfeld fan I take it?

Olreander...???

Are you Spongeworthy?:confused:

OP is Original Point if my guess is correct.

Since the question of this thread is: Do you posts often vanish without a trace, its simple question could easily lead to a discussion about why. And now it looks like we have a growing answer. The diversion looped back into the OP.

OP =Opening Post.

There are many factors which go into deletion of a post in a thread.

Of course, since the decision is subjective and based not only on the moderators viewpoint of what the forum should aim for but also a desire to give a certain kind of direction to the forum discussions, hence, moderation by the same moderator in two different subforums with different goals may be different. And moderation of different posters will also be different.

In my case, post deletion is determined by:

1. Posting history:

By far, this to me is the most important criteria.

i.e. does the poster adhere to some semblance of the scientific method? Will the direction of further discussion be more informative, more analytical, more ruminative, more rhetorical, more likely to diverge into interesting byways OR will further discussion by the poster lead to derailment by offtopic and meaningless posts? I have little objection to profanity or humor, although I do pander to general rules set out by plazma.

2. Abuse

Also very important.

Is the intent of the post to target, flame or bait particular posters rather than debate a point of view?
If this is done intelligently also I will bypass it.


3. Content

Is the post either

-informative
-humorous without being inflammatory
-a unique viewpoint on an also-ran
-challenging to other posters to come up with a reply that will stimulate further relevant discussion?

Then it stays.

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In general, these are the criteria I use for editing posts in Biology/

In S&S, I am more lax, and as long as there is no repeated flaming or fighting or absolute nonsense posts, I will let it go.

I see you reopened the G spot thread. Seems my posts are still deleted. You went back and deleted even more of my posts by the looks of it! Looks like the others are still intact............You know the ones I gave examples of having no Scientific Method, which you said mine had none. What a great job you are doing...:rolleyes:

Does this mean I am not allowed to post in certain parts of this forum? Because that is how is it looking.

Tiassa kept saying if you want results give examples. I have done just that........and Sam you haven't explained yet why
the posts that I gave you examples of , are any different than mine. But you choose to leave those on the board.

The fact is you don't like me, and you are using your Powers of a Mod......to Unfairly treat those you don't like, and look the other way
when it is someone you do.
THIS is what members here are talking about when they say some MODS are very bias and abuse their power. You are TOP on that list!

PS: At least Stryder stepped in and took care of it. Also unbanned the Member that you did for no good reason either. AND NO I DIDN"T ASK HIM,
I never spoke to him. He must have just seen how Unfair you were being.

one raven's posts are also deleted but I don't see him complaining.

I reviewed the thread in question and all deleted post are deleted with reason.

Biology & Genetics is a place for serious discussion, not for IM conversation. And deleted posts resemble more on IM chat, than serious talk.

[Biology & Genetics is a place for serious discussion, not for IM conversation. And deleted posts resemble more on IM chat, than serious talk.

And 1/2 of the undeleted posts still resemble a chat....:rolleyes:

I take it the discussion on Smoking Koala Dung is a serious discussion and the posts there are based on Scientific Method too? Funny how SAM isn't deleting those.
The whole thread is a JOKE!!
Funny if I posted in that thread in such manner mine would all be DELETED.
You guys should at least try and be consistent.

where does a koala store its dope?

in its pouch. ffffuck.
imbeciles.



The rest you can read for yourself!

Most of the time I never even notice if a post of mine has been deleted. I suppose if it was an important part of a big discussion I might, but if its just teasing banter, who cares.

Sometimes when people get worked up about it, it reminds me of sibling rivalry. ;)