Here's a little poll to determine if everyone in the world is brainwashed or just some of you. Are Christians nice and caring or is there always an alterior motive behind it, that of converting someone. Say if you like them or not here!

Duhhh. That's a dumb question. There's always an alterior to everyone's motive. Everyone is nice a lot of the time or sometime just to get what they want, to not get what they don't want, because they were told or raised to be that way, etc. Christians are just like anybody else. An atheist doesn't go off when they get mad because they know the consequences, and is nice when they feel like it or when they have to be. What about Christians or religion threatens some of you? Is it the rules? Everyone has rules. Some people just have rules out of tradition or a traditional religion, not much difference. Even an atheist who says their rule is to do what they want is lying. You may not always want to go to work but you do because you have to or there can be bad consequences.

That's actually very good critical thinking on your part, well done! I'll admitt this question is more for fun then actually hoping for any final conclusion to this epic. The only things I might respond with are that the problems arise when religion control reason instead of the other way around. So many things in the past were halted, stopped, kept from developing, all in the name of various religions. I see now a world ruled by Christianity, while not wrong it is in some ways disheartening. If any single religion is allowed to rise to power in exclusion of others it offers a chance, however slim, for major societal turbulance.

My opinion is this: Christianity is a guise for many to hide their truths, each truth being unique. We are all alone and though we wish something was watching over all of us there is nothing but eachother.

PS Very good comments

it's a bit of a biased poll, firstly the question should be, do you like/trust the religious, and secondly, what christians do you mean there are 34,000 different sects, thirdly there should be more options, as you may think their hypocrites/ delusional, liers etc any number of things.
and how are you going to determine if everyone in the world is brainwashed, as at present two thirds are religious.

I have not voted because of the above statement, but as for my feeling about christians, I have none, if they wish to follow a god thats their perogative however what I do object to is the religious mind set, it is the most evilest thing known to man, I object to religious parents indoctrinating their children, thats child abuse, religion in schools,child abuse, religious govenments,abuse of the masses, and being preached to, being told somethings the truth without any basis, abusive lies.

Some yes, some no, its all on an individual basis, some are perfectly fine, others are quite clearly fixated on pushing their agenda, even through the boundaries of logic and reason.

Well, it was my first poll so I'll think more whenever I do another. Thanks!

Everyone's different.

I evaluate Christians on a case by case basis; atheists and members of other religions get the same treatment. Most Christians I know are decent people, though I know there are some nutcases out there. I don't know any personally, I just hear about them and can't even think of any names right now (they're definitely a minority).

I evaluate Christians on a case by case basis; atheists and members of other religions get the same treatment. Most Christians I know are decent people, though I know there are some nutcases out there. I don't know any personally, I just hear about them and can't even think of any names right now (they're definitely a minority).
google "fred phelps"

unfortunately przyk, most of that minority are the religious/political leaders we have.

http://www.reandev.com/taliban/)

Bailey Smith

"With all due respect to those dear people, my friend, God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew."

Gary Bauer (American Values)

"We are engaged in a social, political, and cultural war. There's a lot of talk in America about pluralism. But the bottom line is somebody's values will prevail. And the winner gets the right to teach our children what to believe."

Fred Phelps (Westboro Baptist Church)

"If you got to castrate your miserable self with a piece of rusty barb wire, do it."

"Hear the word of the LORD, America, fag-enablers are worse than the fags themselves, and will be punished in the everlasting lake of fire!"

"You telling these miserable, Hell-bound, bath house-wallowing, anal-copulating fags that God loves them!? You have bats in the belfry!"

"American Veterans are to blame for the fag takeover of this nation. They have the power in their political lobby to influence the zeitgeist, get the fags out of the military, and back in the closet where they belong!"

"Not only is homosexuality a sin, but anyone who supports fags is just as guilty as they are. You are both worthy of death."

Gary North (Institute for Christian Economics)

"The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant–baptism and holy communion–must be denied citizenship."

"This is God's world, not Satan's. Christians are the lawful heirs, not non-Christians."

George Bush Sr. (Ex-President of the United States)

"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."

George W. Bush (President of the United States)


"I don't think that witchcraft is a religion. I wish the military would rethink this decision."*

"God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."

"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

"This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while."

Jerry Falwell

"We're fighting against humanism, we're fighting against liberalism...we are fighting against all the systems of Satan that are destroying our nation today...our battle is with Satan himself."

"AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. To oppose it would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharoah's chariotters."

"The Bible is the inerrant ... word of the living God. It is absolutely infallible, without error in all matters pertaining to faith and practice, as well as in areas such as geography, science, history, etc."

"AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals."

"If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being."

Jimmy Swaggart (Jimmy Swaggart Ministries)

"The Media is ruled by Satan. But yet I wonder if many Christians fully understand that. Also, will they believe what the Media says, considering that its aim is to steal, kill, and destroy?"

"Sex education classes in our public schools are promoting incest."

"Evolution is a bankrupt speculative philosophy, not a scientific fact. Only a spiritually bankrupt society could ever believe it...Only atheists could accept this Satanic theory.

I admit I have my stereotypes, but I try to judge people individually or rather, not judge people, unless they're someone it would obviously be better to avoid.

Sometimes I find their belief in tall tales endearing.

There's such a wide range of Christian personality that I decided to answer all the pool answers.

Kinda stupid you can choose all. Plus, it's a pretty open question...

Most Christians are nice people.

even jesus said:
love the man, but hate the sin.

i like the personalities of most of the christians i know, but i despise the religion.
a religion is not the identity of a person. it SHOULD be the other way around: the religion should be a symptom of the personality of the person.

"do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"--aleister crowley

unfortunately przyk, most of that minority are the religious/political leaders we have.
Depends on where you live (I'm in Western Europe). Some places are essentially run by religion, others are much more secular (there's no reference to God on Euro banknotes). It's true that I usually don't think too highly of overly vocal people who draw too much attention to their religious beliefs (there's a lot of truth in the saying "Empty vessels make the most sound"). I generally have a low opinion of such people especially if they use religion as the primary justification of their actions.

I wish people didn't need the reward of "eternal life" or the threat of "eternal damnation" to incite them to be civil sometimes.

as a whole, no.
individually, maybe.

I don't like anybody!

I just tolerate some more then others ;)

Godless

I have no objection to Christians as long as they do not affect my life. Once they cross that line, I consider them as I do everyone else. What is the issue, and do they make sense?

As a result, I have a very poor opinion of Christianity in general.

Here's a little poll to determine if everyone in the world is brainwashed or just some of you. Are Christians nice and caring or is there always an alterior motive behind it, that of converting someone. Say if you like them or not here!
I consider them just like everyone else. If they are nice to me, I like them. If they leave me alone, I don't care. If they don't like me, I don't like them. Simple. I handle them on an individual basis.
On that note, as a group, christians are stupid lunatics. If they try to convert me, I hit them.

as a group, christians are stupid lunatics. If they try to convert me, I hit them.


In another thread you called christians retarted, now there lunatics too, do you have any proof of these wild & lunatic & retarded statements, is it because george bush or tony blair are christians, considering they are acting on behalf of the US & uk governments in iraq, both governments are made up of many different faiths, that is a no go is it not, they are acting over there greed of oil, not over any religous war.

Please show me why christians are lunatics & retarded, are you by chance a atheist, a man without faith himself in any religon, & spends his day knocking others with faith.

Me i am catholic i accept others without faith in any religon, without choosing to knock them, i just find it very funny when most atheists in this forum, are not happy unless there trying to insult people with faith, are you just plain jealous that we believe in something, yet you yourself believe in nothing.

You believe in some dumb ass theory that a comet seeded life on earth, what bollocks, why dont you try absorbing your surroundings for once, with the amount of craters on the millions of moons & planets out there, the universe should be full of life, or was earth just the lucky one, where all the ingredients off millions of species were found on this one comet that hit us.

Can you comprehend how stupid the theory that a comet is responsible for life on earth, even scientists can not explain the millions of species on earth. because there is none, other than god.

Me i am catholic i accept others without faith in any religon, without choosing to knock them, i just find it very funny when most atheists in this forum, are not happy unless there trying to insult people with faith, are you just plain jealous that we believe in something, yet you yourself believe in nothing.


didnt you get banned for threatening someone over PM's? yeah you're real accepting of people and not insulting, also not a lunatic. what i think is funny is that you still entertain the notion that people on the forum take anything you say seriously.

didnt you get banned for threatening someone over PM's? yeah you're real accepting of people and not insulting, also not a lunatic. what i think is funny is that you still entertain the notion that people on the forum take anything you say seriously.


Oh yeah i am suppose to take all the atheists in this forum & there are loads, seriously when they say there is no god, and hey guess what a mega menu of ingredients of over 6 million species on planet earth was on a comet that crashed into earth, now trhat is plain lunacy.

There is not one scientist who can explain the over 6 million known species on earth, and the millions yet to be found.

Whose the lunatic, seems to me its the scientists, who make guess after guess, with no proof or logic to back up there statements.

We have proof our prophets lived, yet where is proof of all this bountiful life on comets.

Oh yeah i am suppose to take all the atheists in this forum & there are loads, seriously when they say there is no god, and hey guess what a mega menu of ingredients of over 6 million species on planet earth was on a comet that crashed into earth, now trhat is plain lunacy.

There is not one scientist who can explain the over 6 million known species on earth, and the millions yet to be found.

Whose the lunatic, seems to me its the scientists, who make guess after guess, with no proof or logic to back up there statements.

We have proof our prophets lived, yet where is proof of all this bountiful life on comets.

hey man keep telling yourself that.

hey man keep telling yourself that.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4819370.stm

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Earth could seed Titan with life


By Paul Rincon
BBC News science reporter, Houston , Texas




Many processes that occur on Earth also occur on Titan (Nasa/JPL/SSI)


Terrestrial rocks blown into space by asteroid impacts on Earth could have taken life to Saturn's moon Titan, scientists have announced.

Earth microbes in these meteorites could have seeded the organic-rich world with life, scientists believe.

They think the impact on Earth that killed off the dinosaurs could have ejected enough material for some to reach far-off moons like Titan.

Details were unveiled at a major science conference in Houston, US.

The theory of panspermia holds that life on planets like Earth and Mars was seeded from space, perhaps hitching a ride on meteorites and comets.



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"asteroid impacts on Earth could have taken life to Saturn's moon Titan, scientists have announced. "


Yeah lets believe your scientists eh?

No doubt saturns moon titan will one day have our 6 million species we have on earth, and of course the other estimated 24 million yet to be found on eaarth.

Because guess what they hitched a ride on a magic carpet called a asteroid which hit earth like in pin ball, bounced off making sure it picked up all the magic ingredients of life from earth, then shot off to create millions of new species on distant planets far, far away (star wars)

Yeah i can see where you are coming from, why dont you keep reading these fairy stories to your children eh?

Oh God Almighty.... :rolleyes:

Ha! What an ironic statement! :D

Me i am catholic
How did I know that...? :rolleyes:


No wonder so much illogical bable!!

the problem with CHRISTIANS today... and in the past... is that the foundation of CHRISTIANITY...

is not the words of JESUS.............. ITS NOT.

instead... constantine and his buddies, in 500 ad... desided that the basis of the faith would be words written by JOHN.. mostly...

why??

cause if the foundation of the faith was the words of JESUS... then every christian would have to work on ending hunger and homelessness and stomping out all evil in the world....

and in 500 ad... they knew that was impossible. especially for a new.. young.. and minor religion.

no...

it needed a structure and faith system which would allow its distribution all over the world... and would not threaten the gov'ts.... and so... would not be crushed.

and it worked... it survived.... and flurished.. all over the world.

but... still... none of it... changes the fact that JESUS... SAID THINGS VERY CLEARLY.... we must end the suffering.

we must help the less fortunate... we must.

just as JEHOVAH, commanded the jews in duet 15....

we must... it is our duty.. and obligation as godly men.

the preachers.... have themselves been mislead.. since 500 ad.



well.. i say its time to realise the meaning which is so clear to anyone who reads matthew, luke and mark....

this contradition in beliefs and values, has lead me to begin a new church... and the foundation of my own belief system is the words of JESUS.... PERIOD.

AS IT SHOULD BE..

but i do not plan on forcing my views on others.... no..

we can talk about it..

the church itself... is designed based on the teachings of JESUS... TO LOVE EACH OTHER....

THE EMPIRICAL CHURCH.... ALLOWS FOR THAT LOVE TO OCCUR..

IT FACILITATES... LOVE.. COMPASSION AND CAREING FOR OTHERS.

romans 15:1
"we then that are strong, aught to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves....."
the matoe of every superhero.

i ask you all... to try and be that kind of hero.


-MT

the problem with CHRISTIANS today... and in the past... is that the foundation of CHRISTIANITY...

is not the words of JESUS.............. ITS NOT.

instead... constantine and his buddies, in 500 ad... desided that the basis of the faith would be words written by JOHN.. mostly...

why??

cause if the foundation of the faith was the words of JESUS... then every christian would have to work on ending hunger and homelessness and stomping out all evil in the world....

and in 500 ad... they knew that was impossible. especially for a new.. young.. and minor religion.

no...

it needed a structure and faith system which would allow its distribution all over the world... and would not threaten the gov'ts.... and so... would not be crushed.

and it worked... it survived.... and flurished.. all over the world.

but... still... none of it... changes the fact that JESUS... SAID THINGS VERY CLEARLY.... we must end the suffering.

we must help the less fortunate... we must.

just as JEHOVAH, commanded the jews in duet 15....

we must... it is our duty.. and obligation as godly men.

the preachers.... have themselves been mislead.. since 500 ad.



well.. i say its time to realise the meaning which is so clear to anyone who reads matthew, luke and mark....

this contradition in beliefs and values, has lead me to begin a new church... and the foundation of my own belief system is the words of JESUS.... PERIOD.

AS IT SHOULD BE..
Well said...

the problem with CHRISTIANS today... and in the past... is that the foundation of CHRISTIANITY...

is not the words of JESUS.............. ITS NOT.

instead... constantine and his buddies, in 500 ad... desided that the basis of the faith would be words written by JOHN.. mostly...

why??

cause if the foundation of the faith was the words of JESUS... then every christian would have to work on ending hunger and homelessness and stomping out all evil in the world....

and in 500 ad... they knew that was impossible. especially for a new.. young.. and minor religion.

no...

it needed a structure and faith system which would allow its distribution all over the world... and would not threaten the gov'ts.... and so... would not be crushed.

and it worked... it survived.... and flurished.. all over the world.

but... still... none of it... changes the fact that JESUS... SAID THINGS VERY CLEARLY.... we must end the suffering.

we must help the less fortunate... we must.

just as JEHOVAH, commanded the jews in duet 15....

we must... it is our duty.. and obligation as godly men.

the preachers.... have themselves been mislead.. since 500 ad.



well.. i say its time to realise the meaning which is so clear to anyone who reads matthew, luke and mark....

this contradition in beliefs and values, has lead me to begin a new church... and the foundation of my own belief system is the words of JESUS.... PERIOD.

AS IT SHOULD BE..

but i do not plan on forcing my views on others.... no..

we can talk about it..

the church itself... is designed based on the teachings of JESUS... TO LOVE EACH OTHER....

THE EMPIRICAL CHURCH.... ALLOWS FOR THAT LOVE TO OCCUR..

IT FACILITATES... LOVE.. COMPASSION AND CAREING FOR OTHERS.

romans 15:1
"we then that are strong, aught to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves....."
the matoe of every superhero.

i ask you all... to try and be that kind of hero.


-MT


the problem, as i see it, is that you have no idea what jesus's words, thoughts, or actual intentions were. sure you have the bible, a mistranslated and edited account of what he might have said given that the authors of bible documents were writing decades after his death. did you ever hear a rumor in high school that spiraled out of control until what was said in the beginning was no longer remotely represented by the current version of the story? thats what the bible is, an inflation, distortion, and misrepresentation of a distant past and the life of a man whose actual historical significance is now almost impossible to determine. you dont believe in jesus's words, you believe in the words that someone who never knew him heard that he said, and of those, you pick and choose the ones that you would like to think have the most meaning for you. while that may work for you as a lifestyle and philosophy, it should be up to everyone to decide for themselves, and if it is sound, it would be sound regardless of whether it had initially been enunciated by jesus or billy the kid. it should be kept to oneself.

ps. it wasnt really 500ad, the development of the idea of the trinity, jesus's "divinity" and the compilation of a somewhat coherent biblical document was closer to 325-350 ad. somewhere in that area.

pps. the verse from romans that you have cited bears a strong resemblance to the credo of communism "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" ironically, communism is mostly accompanied by at least official atheism, or religious intolerance of some type, and can also be said to have been one of the world's truly monumental failures.

the universe should be full of life,
Who says it isn't? The universe is a vast amount of space. It is statistically impossible for earth to be the only planet with life on it.

or was earth just the lucky one, where all the ingredients off millions of species were found on this one comet that hit us.
What the fuck are you talking about? The theory of evolution has nothing to do with a comet containing DNA of various species hitting earth and spreading it about. That's utter tripe.

even scientists can not explain the millions of species on earth.
Ever heard of Evolution?

Who says it isn't? The universe is a vast amount of space. It is statistically impossible for earth to be the only planet with life on it.


What the fuck are you talking about? The theory of evolution has nothing to do with a comet containing DNA of various species hitting earth and spreading it about. That's utter tripe.


Ever heard of Evolution?


Have you ever heard of GOD?

Scientists guesses are not my Gods....

Im puzzled are there scientific graveyards for science boffins, who dont belive in god, afterall if your buried in a church graveyard, does that not go against your beliefs in a higher being?

Everyone turns to god at sometine in there lives, even atheists when there family is sick or whatever, does that not make them a hypocrite too.

Oh God Almighty.... :rolleyes:

Ha! What an ironic statement! :D


How did I know that...? :rolleyes:


No wonder so much illogical bable!!


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Speaking of illiogical babble, i noticed you voted for all four questions, do you have a multiple personality.


I put it to you Sir, you!! are spouting!!!! illogical babble, when you can not give a straight answer to a simple question...............

You retard! Did you read what I posted?
There's such a wide range of Christian personality that I decided to answer all the pool answers.

Kinda stupid you can choose all. Plus, it's a pretty open question...

A Christian can mean one of three things things
1. Somebod who believes in jesus
2. Somebody who considers themself a christian
3. Somebody who obbeys the bible word for word, thinks the earth is 6,000 years old and agrees with the evil stories in the old testiment of murder, rape etc.

If you are in the third category you are a sick bastard.
If you are in the first two then i don't consider you a christian but an alternative theist.

So in conclusion. I don't trust anyone

it depends.

i dont usually dislike anything though,


even bad things can have good benefits,


embrace.

peace.

Yes/no/maybe/don't know.

Yes, if they are not trying to force their beliefs on others

No, if the opposite is true.

Maybe, If I just met one and depending on what I find out later.

As for the rest: I don't know.

Have you ever heard of GOD?
God does not exist. It is an attempt to simply wipe questions away because they are hard. Well, I say, we should answer questions about the universe, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. You cannot simply run away with your "god did it" mask every time something troubling pops up.

Everyone turns to god at sometine in there lives, even atheists
Nope.

the problem, as i see it, is that you have no idea what jesus's words, thoughts, or actual intentions were. sure you have the bible, a mistranslated and edited account of what he might have said given that the authors of bible documents were writing decades after his death. did you ever hear a rumor in high school that spiraled out of control until what was said in the beginning was no longer remotely represented by the current version of the story? thats what the bible is, an inflation, distortion, and misrepresentation of a distant past and the life of a man whose actual historical significance is now almost impossible to determine. you dont believe in jesus's words, you believe in the words that someone who never knew him heard that he said, and of those, you pick and choose the ones that you would like to think have the most meaning for you. while that may work for you as a lifestyle and philosophy, it should be up to everyone to decide for themselves, and if it is sound, it would be sound regardless of whether it had initially been enunciated by jesus or billy the kid. it should be kept to oneself.

ps. it wasnt really 500ad, the development of the idea of the trinity, jesus's "divinity" and the compilation of a somewhat coherent biblical document was closer to 325-350 ad. somewhere in that area.

pps. the verse from romans that you have cited bears a strong resemblance to the credo of communism "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" ironically, communism is mostly accompanied by at least official atheism, or religious intolerance of some type, and can also be said to have been one of the world's truly monumental failures.

THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS... contained a copy of the gospel of thomas.

a gnostic text that never made it into the bible...

the bible put together by constantine and his buddies...



the gosple of thomas... is basically a list of quotes from jesus, himself.

these quotes in the dead sea scrolls... match the quotes found in the bible.

in this way we can see that in general... the quotes of JESUS.. are valid as such...


and as such... are the basis of what christianity should be.



if JESUS... is GOD... LORD... AND MASTER... king.. literally.


then his words are law..


but in our modern world... people ... even christians... choose otherwise.
that is the problem.

-MT

Here's a little poll to determine if everyone in the world is brainwashed or just some of you. Are Christians nice and caring or is there always an alterior motive behind it, that of converting someone. Say if you like them or not here!

This really is not a very bright question, you can't take a class of people and assume they all behave and think alike?
There are plenty of religious people serving life sentances in prisons hence the chapels and mosques they have nowadays!

I like some poeple, I don't like other people, their religious beliefs are immaterial.

A Christian can mean one of three things things
1. Somebod who believes in jesus
2. Somebody who considers themself a christian
3. Somebody who obbeys the bible word for word, thinks the earth is 6,000 years old and agrees with the evil stories in the old testiment of murder, rape etc.

If you are in the third category you are a sick bastard.
If you are in the first two then i don't consider you a christian but an alternative theist.

So in conclusion. I don't trust anyone

Actually a Christian is one thing only, someone who follows the path of Jesus Christ and no you don't even have to be christened to be christian.

jesus was a buddha.

peace.

jesus was a buddha.

peace.

and you are a pomegranite

Actually a Christian is one thing only, someone who follows the path of Jesus Christ and no you don't even have to be christened to be christian.
That's not what the majority believes, unfortunately...

and you are a pomegranite


thats one of the only fruits i dont actually like,

peace.

jesus was a buddha.
No, he was a lunatic, and a traitor to Rome and The Emperor.

he was a monk from india, i knew him in a previous life,


peace.

he was a monk from india, i knew him in a previous life,

Naaaa!! Jesus was this mexican kid that sold me some real good herb, grew it himself, he grew the best herb in Mexico he used to claim, after smoking a doobie I agree :D :m:

Godless

'Do I like Christians? Yes, they're delicious'....... Jeffrey Dahmer

"Do we like Christians? Yes, well done".......New Guinea bushmen

Naaaa!! Jesus was this mexican kid that sold me some real good herb, grew it himself, he grew the best herb in Mexico he used to claim, after smoking a doobie I agree :D :m:

Godless



ive never had mexican weed,


peace,

No, he was a lunatic, and a traitor to Rome and The Emperor.

am i also a lunatic? i really like being it becuz it sounds so cool! =)


war.

haps.. i guess... i am not... it.. then.

you don't even have to be christened to be christian.

christening rarely have anything to do with christianity.

about 2/3 of British people are christned. A significantly smaller number are practicing christians.

Many people however call themselves christians yet don't believe in god

They're all hippocrits

After ready threw all these posts it's not to hard to see why the two major movements in the last
100 years that had atheism as one of its major core beliefs, killed so many people. Communism
and Hitler’s Nazi movement.

Close to 200 million killed, and it looks like there is enough hate by atheists and antireligious
people now to promote another round of genocides to get rid of religious people.

I will just add a little foot note here for those that are misinformed about Hitlers Germany,
namely regarding the ignorant belief that it was “Christian”. Find a good history text covering
the movement. Naziism was based on a type pantheism - in which the State was destined by
nature. The natural world and its laws dictated that the strong survive over the week.

After ready threw all these posts it's not to hard to see why the two major movements in the last
100 years that had atheism as one of its major core beliefs, killed so many people. Communism and Hitler’s Nazi movement.
What you are talking about is a reductio ad hitlerum logical fallacy.

Way to fail.

Thank you- glad you liked it.

It depends on how seriously the Christian takes Christianity - the more seriously they take it, the more closer they get to the lunatic fringe.

Thankfully, most of em don't take it seriously...:)

paul299

adolf hitler was christian

http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
http://atheism.about.com/od/adolfhitlernazigermany/p/NaziChristian.htm



the Hitler Oath:

I swear by God,
this holy oath,
to the Führer of the German Reich and people.

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Gott Mit Uns (God With Us) Nazi Buckle

Enlisted Man's German Army belt buckle (Stamped steel, 1937 pattern, made by "R S & S" for Richard Sieper & Sohne Ludenscheid). Photo from the German Militaria Catalog (their web site no longer exists).

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Mother's Cross (Mutterkreuz)

A Christian cross given to German mothers

Hitler encouraged several programs for the growth of a strong German Nazi Volk. These programs involved the encouragement of the virtues of German motherhood for the purpose of increasing the size of their families and the abolition of abortions (except for the mentally ill). In 1938, Hitler instituted a new award to honor German Nazi motherhood, especially for large families. He awarded such mothers the cross of Honor of the German Mother (Ehrenkreuz der deutschen Mutter).

Although the German Iron cross usually appears symmetrical this particular cross, by lengthening the vertical member, it becomes a Christian cross.

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German Christian Movement Badge (Deutsch-Christliche Mitgliedsabzeichen)

Enamel, 22x24mm, pin-backed, gold coloured badge

Hitler backed The German Christians movement (DC) with the party's organizational support.

for a party who were'nt christian paul299
the seem to have an awful lot of christian junk.
I wonder why!

some are loonies, others are not.

paul299

adolf hitler was christian


And I hear rumours that Stalin was an atheist. Perhaps you two are related?

For what it's worth, one person(s)' assessment of Hitler's supposed Christianity. All are apparently quotes of his "majesty".

http://answers.org/history/hitquote.html

Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure.

I'm quite sure someone could argue that he never wrote these things. After all, there are quite a few people who deny the holocaust and such.

However, the simple testimony of the historic record as regards the Nazi regime and the Third Reich (and their very blatant crimes against humanity) clearly shows and proves that any claim or affinity to Christian doctrine or morals was by name and title only.

And I hear rumours that Stalin was an atheist. Perhaps you two are related?
by what I quoted, how did I make you so angry.
stalin was anything but atheist, to irrational, this despot, fortunately for me was no relation.

by what I quoted, how did I make you so angry.
stalin was anything but atheist, to irrational, this despot, fortunately for me was no relation.

I wasn't angry. I merely jumped.

So Stalin was a devout follower of the Eastern Orthodox tradition?

I am sure he was as related to you as the average Christian is to Hitler.

That's all I was saying.

:cool:

I don't think that we should hate somr one on the bases of religion.

Do you trust athiests? After all, they dont believe in a God, so they CANT be trustworthy (sarcasm) ... anyone who said yes or no needs some thinking to do... i mean really... you might as well say you trust all Europeans or distrust all arabs... generalizing is foolish... if you dont trust someone because of what they believe, then you have problems...

although I think the 4th option is offensive... this is a free... network ( :bugeye: ) ... so do what you want... but the only thing that really should have been voted for is "maybe", or else you are judging someone before you even know them (pre-judging [prejudice])... but hey, some may like being prejudice towards Christians... what do i care, your stupidity :rolleyes:

thats like saying do you trust people with cancer. People are born genetic tendicies for cancer just like christianity. its hard to free someones mind from the lies they have been hearing all their life.