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I maintain that I do not fear death, but this does not mean that I want to die, nor does it mean that I will not do all I can to avert death. I avert death as I enjoy life and want to continue it for as long as possible, but this does not mean I fear death.

No I don't fear it. Of course I don't want to die for many reasons chief amongst them are my wife and children.

I don't fear death. I fear the pain I will potentially experience shortly before dying.

No I don't fear it. Of course I don't want to die for many reasons chief amongst them are my wife and children.

agreed

I don't fear death. I fear the pain I will potentially experience shortly before dying.

and agreed

although, I have been in so much pain a couple of times, I've wanted to die to be rid of it. But that was really just case of wanting relief not actual death I guess.

its a stupid question. how to avoid death or the pain of it is a better one. going all out spiritually is the best. the best of spirituality is advaita hinduism. we id ourselves as god

its a stupid question. how to avoid death or the pain of it is a better one. going all out spiritually is the best. the best of spirituality is advaita hinduism. we id ourselves as god


anyone care to translate?

meanwhile avoiding death? it is inevitable, so that WOULD be stupid question, how to avoid?

Well, depending on certain experiences/beliefs, it might not technically be inevitable. The Taoists of ancient China formulated lots of supplements and diets as well as various breathing exercises and "yoga" like movements that prolonged life to a noticeable degree. I just don't think anyone really wants to live forever, life can only hold so much for someone.

The same Taoists also came up with ways to retain sexual energy(that being not ejaculate during a sexual act), and using that same sexual energy within the body, making the body extremely strong, fast, and overall fit(if you go to Eastern Philosophy, look for Xerxes' "Five Tibetans" post), to a superhuman degree.

So in this case, why fear death if you can ward it off in such a way?

its a stupid question. how to avoid death or the pain of it is a better one. going all out spiritually is the best. the best of spirituality is advaita hinduism. we id ourselves as god


How does thinking yourself God keep you from dying?

i've had a gun pointed at me and was told i was going to be shot
i remember that incident like it happened yesterday
no, i wasn't scared or afraid
as a matter of fact the situation pissed me off so bad that i jumped up out of the chair i was in and within 2 strides i was on that mofo like ugly on an ape.
talk about a pissant worm turning white as a sheet, that mofo was saying he was joking and that he was sorry

If I die, I won't take any note of it. I honestly don't care about being dead.

Living is fun though.

Well, depending on certain experiences/beliefs, it might not technically be inevitable. The Taoists of ancient China formulated lots of supplements and diets as well as various breathing exercises and "yoga" like movements that prolonged life to a noticeable degree. I just don't think anyone really wants to live forever, life can only hold so much for someone.

The same Taoists also came up with ways to retain sexual energy(that being not ejaculate during a sexual act), and using that same sexual energy within the body, making the body extremely strong, fast, and overall fit(if you go to Eastern Philosophy, look for Xerxes' "Five Tibetans" post), to a superhuman degree.

So in this case, why fear death if you can ward it off in such a way?

They are NOT immortal, regardless of how long they live they DO die.

I love life and those I share it with, and I don't want to die, but I'm definatley not afraid. What's there to be afraid of? I'm gonna die anyway. As to you're second question, I would regret the things I didn't do. The things I did do were done and over with the moment I did them...if I was going to regret them I would have then. No point in worrrying about what I've done when I die.

Currently we don't have much of an alternative to death, It is the eventuum for us all. However should we ever get to the technological point of sustaining life further by one means or other(i.e. cryogenic stasis or uploaded to a virtual network), fear will more than likely play a part since you would now be losing the option of a continued existance.

(IMHO religions that support life after death, heaven, hell and other "merchandise" always sell it with Belief, since belief is cheap and doesn't require labour to get it working.)

It's not so much death that people fear currently, just the pain, sufferage and lack of justice if the death is violently untimely.

its a stupid question. how to avoid death or the pain of it is a better one. going all out spiritually is the best. the best of spirituality is advaita hinduism. we id ourselves as god

I don't know what you mean by god, but I think what you're saying is how in Hindu belief people are reincarnated, so there's no reason to fear death.

I think it's also like that in a few other religions like Sikhism and Buddism.

It's not so much death that people fear currently, just the pain, sufferage and lack of justice if the death is violently untimely.

Well there are those who fear death itself probably because of a fear of the unknown, or religion. Maybe they don't feel they've lead the best life, and now they're afriad of what's going to happen. It reminds me of a friend who said he didn't believe or care about religion, but he figured he would when he was older because its been put into people's heads that its a kind of insurance, and like you said, its easy to have beliefs.

Well, depending on certain experiences/beliefs, it might not technically be inevitable. The Taoists of ancient China formulated lots of supplements and diets as well as various breathing exercises and "yoga" like movements that prolonged life to a noticeable degree. I just don't think anyone really wants to live forever, life can only hold so much for someone.

The same Taoists also came up with ways to retain sexual energy(that being not ejaculate during a sexual act), and using that same sexual energy within the body, making the body extremely strong, fast, and overall fit(if you go to Eastern Philosophy, look for Xerxes' "Five Tibetans" post), to a superhuman degree.

So in this case, why fear death if you can ward it off in such a way?
wow, I wonder if their balls felt like they were going to explode

Could the people who have voted to say they fear death, please let us know what about it you fear. Thanks

Okay, I fear death because I don't think I've taken the time to really live all the things I've wanted to live. The thing with death is that it's kind of unpredictable and when it comes then everything else will stop mattering really, but to this day it still matters to me to the point that I wouldn't give it up if I had to. Had I lived all the things I wanted to at this point, then I really wouldn't mind dying.

Could the people who have voted to say they fear death, please let us know what about it you fear. Thanks
Sorry,

Ok, I do not fear "death" I fear Dying....
and In that Dying, I fear the different ways to die.
Like
:Will it be my Choice?
:Will some one else make that choice?
:Would it be a disease?
:What if it was a contagious disease?
:Will it hurt?
:Will there be some one there waiting for me. The Reaper per chance?
:Or Will I be alone?.
:Will I Be conscious in my Nonexistence?
:Will I have taken other peoples lives with me some how?
:Will I feel the eating of my Flesh by the hoards of maggots and other creatures?
:Where will the Energy of my conscious go?

Those are the things I am afraid of. But as every thing Shows, Nothing lasts for ever, so the pain of Death, must not last for ever either. Is that Kind of answering the question?

Sorry,

Ok, I do not fear "death" I fear Dying....
and In that Dying, I fear the different ways to die.
Like
:Will it be my Choice?
:Will some one else make that choice?
:Would it be a disease?
:What if it was a contagious disease?
:Will it hurt?
:Will there be some one there waiting for me. The Reaper per chance?
:Or Will I be alone?.
:Will I Be conscious in my Nonexistence?
:Will I have taken other peoples lives with me some how?
:Will I feel the eating of my Flesh by the hoards of maggots and other creatures?
:Where will the Energy of my conscious go?

Those are the things I am afraid of. But as every thing Shows, Nothing lasts for ever, so the pain of Death, must not last for ever either. Is that Kind of answering the question?

Indeed and thankyou Oscar also.

Myself I don't think about death just assume it'll either be' nothingness' in which case I'll be none the wiser aside from the run up to it, which I do not relish, but really afford it no thought. Or my belief system which is that this life ends and another form of existance begins. I don't fear that as without the physical body there will be no pain physical or emotional.

I guess when I say I don't fear death perhaps what I mean is I am not concerned about the 'after death' whatever that is?

Maybe we should re phrase the 'fear of' thing , to what though?

Meanwhile Oscar, you are very young and I promise you you can do whatever it is you want to do at any age, so start now with your wish list. Live every day as if its your last.

i fear dying..because every1 who loves me is goin to cry abt it n a lotta ppl love me :) n also coz id be missin out on this world as myself...like its an end to this entity called me in this very same form in this place..
i also fear death..not just mine but others...just like the fear of the unknown...if im gonna get all my answers meet God or smthin after death (like i like to believe) then that'd be nice..but if its goin to be just nothingness then thats really scary coz im sooo used to bein around here ya know!!

It is healthy to fear death. That is what keeps people safe. I am very much afraid to die. I want to live a long life.

People who voted 'No' will suddenly realize the error of their ways when their biological cage ceases up with searing pain...

People who voted 'No' will suddenly realize the error of their ways when their biological cage ceases up with searing pain...

Sorry Kenny, I have had my body ceased up with pain and ongoingly with no pain relief, I also had to endure two operations without anaesthetic, and my thoughts at the time were: 'I want to die' because that was the only relief I could see at the time!' scary but sadly true.

damn i dont ever want to want to die

damn i dont ever want to want to die

I feel very ashamed that this is how I felt during those moments, very much so, nothing mattered to me except release from the pain and discomfort.
Appalled, I would say you have to be in that pain to understand, but I actually don't think that is the case, many have been through much worse, stuck under rubble for days waiting to be rescued, with limbs severed hanging on to life, willing themselves to stay alive. Its a weakness in me I guess.

In fact when put like this, not fearing death is not an act of bravodo, rather exposing a fear of being alive. In some situations at least.

I need to value life more. But I do not wish the morbidity of being consumed with fearful thoughts of death.

I am not afraid of dying, but I have the usual instinctive inhibitions about it (It's not like if someone suggested that I jump off a cliff, I'd reply "Sure, why not?"). My life's pretty monotonous, so I don't know what lenghts I'd go to to keep myself alive. I guess it feels like watching a movie sometimes - you want to know what happens next, and that's why you don't leave the cinema in the middle of it.

No reason to fear death, if it's your time there's nothing you can do about it. That doesn't mean give up if you have a chance to save yourself from death, but to commit any unreasonable time to the thought of death is pointless. Roll with the punches, everyone needs to fucking chill out. :m:

Live every day as if its your last.

Crying? :confused:

Hehehehe no seriously, that'd be me on my last day of life. :p

I find it funny how many people tell me to live every day as if it were the last day, considering that in my experience I get to live everyday as if it were my first.

Additionally, a lot of people also tell me that I'm young still, and yet I've come across people who are younger than me and have more life experiences under their belt. Who knows, maybe a lot of other people have less experience but beneath it all I kind of get a sense that there's essential stuff that I've missed out along the way. It's kind of hard to say really 'cos in the end, it's all relative to the person.

Nonetheless, your kind advice is appreciated. :)

No reason to fear death, if it's your time there's nothing you can do about it. That doesn't mean give up if you have a chance to save yourself from death, but to commit any unreasonable time to the thought of death is pointless. :

agreed

no fear of dying here, though i enjoy life (most of the itme) so i do my best to keep it alive.

i fear (may not actually be a fear) OLD AGE. ill health, weakness, and all those thinggs that go with old age like smelling of wee and not being able to wipe my arGH , i dont want to grow old. no no, tear down the wall, send me home back to the source.


i fi have regrets they will be all those bad decisions. things i did do that where stupid or wasteful and things i didnt do for whatever rreason, but then i am not really a pessimistic person so i would probably not dwell on my regrets but rather cherish the positive of life i had.

Ellion, I think if you try to find a 'learned experience' from every negative thing that ever happenned to you, then it's nolonger a negative experience but a positive one. So no need for regrets rather a welcome and neccessary evil.

agreed!

thats really what i meant by not being a pessimist. you should hear some of my experiences. i credit all major learnings to the pain and suffering of my past. i could regret so many things about my life already, i dont. i know that at the time i was doing the best i could with the resources i had in the conditions i found myself. i have caused myself and others a lot of pain and have been hurt so many times by others too. i dont regret anything i have done and i dont hold a grudge to anybody that has hurt me. the only thing that has taught me and taught me well is expereince, my life, and all i have encountered on my journey.

Indeed and thankyou Oscar also.

Myself I don't think about death just assume it'll either be' nothingness' in which case I'll be none the wiser aside from the run up to it, which I do not relish, but really afford it no thought.



I agree. "Nothing" is a very difficult concept to fathom, but one can neither dread it nor desire it. There is a very good chance that nothing will happen after I die. My life functions will cease and I will experience nothing. Not heaven or hell or even a black void; nothing isn't any of these. I don't fear dying, but many others do. This could explain why humans have created elaborate fantasies of life after death. Many people don't want the journey to end.

of course i fucking do!
it is completely unknown territory!
my live is all i have

"Do you fear death?"

No more so than I feared not being born.

Still, as was said earlier, there's some trepidation as to the method of one's personal demise.

Me? I'd rather quietly pass away in my sleep; not screaming in abject terror like my car's passengers.

(Plagarism alert!!)

nah... dying will be my last experiece... it's the last thing i'll ever feel... i hope it's intense

nah... dying will be my last experiece... it's the last thing i'll ever feel... i hope it's intense
Have a preference for duration of intense dying before actual demise? ;)

Like many post have pointed out, the way one dies seems much more frightening than death itself. I don't think many people would be afraid to die if they lived richly and then died of old age in their sleep. But what if you know you'd die a violent, painful death? Then most people would be afraid of their impending death despite their joyous life.

So, I don't fear death but I do fear dying, esp. dying a comical death. A death so funny or embarassing, it overshadows your life.

Like the guy that drowned into a moat around his home...a moat created by a backed up septic tank. Thus he drowned in his own shit. How could anyone talk about his life, without the disturbing way he died coming up?

I do not fear death but I also dont want to die because then I would leaving everything behind. I dont fear death because I am pretty sure we all go to a better place... if we have been good.

I do not fear death but I also dont want to die because then I would leaving everything behind. I dont fear death because I am pretty sure we all go to a better place... if we have been good.

oh really? well when you are in a death threatening situation...remember what you said...cause all you want to do...is live. Stop making excuses. Everyone is afraid to die, you cant hide fear!

Eh i used to but i got over it.

Death is certain. We are all born and we must all die. I do not fear death. In fact I welcome death as I am excited about meeting my maker. It is the living that I fear. We all start to die the minute we are born. Birth is the first day of our lives. The next day is the second day and so on. Thus each day brings us closer to death or as I like to think of it, closer to GOD. I fear pain though. Remember the only day Jesus will come to judge the living and the dead. So don't fear death rather than fear what it is you are going to be judged for while you are alive.

Those who die are those who want die, who let the possibility of death become a reality. So far all people on planet Earth have let this happen. Can you control a thought? Can you force yourself to not think completely of a specific thought? Can you do this with thought of death? No. So can't I, unless I will be able to control my will.

Those who die are those who want die, who let the possibility of death become a reality. So far all people on planet Earth have let this happen. Can you control a thought? Can you force yourself to not think completely of a specific thought? Can you do this with thought of death?

I'm practising this, I seem able to do it most of the time.
It's strange, it seems almost against the law not to carry a thought through to its conclusion or not to worry about impending problems, but in reality the thoughts until action is required are not helpful but only serve to add stress. So I do practice not completing thought processes or dwelling and I am sure as you infer its helpful.

and no I don't think of death I think of survival.

I'm practising this, I seem able to do it most of the time.
It's strange, it seems almost against the law not to carry a thought through to its conclusion or not to worry about impending problems, but in reality the thoughts until action is required are not helpful but only serve to add stress. So I do practice not completing thought processes or dwelling and I am sure as you infer its helpful.

and no I don't think of death I think of survival.

subconciously you still think of death and this thinking reflects on actions in real life, in the food you eat, in air you breath, in the way you lead your life, in the way how efficiently you manage psychological power gained from people.

subconciously you still think of death and this thinking reflects on actions in real life, in the food you eat, in air you breath, in the way you lead your life, in the way how efficiently you manage psychological power gained from people.

Then you are correct, my diet is radically altering in my quest for self preservation.

"in the way how efficiently you manage psychological power gained from people"

what do you mean by this?

Then you are correct, my diet is radically altering in my quest for self preservation.

"in the way how efficiently you manage psychological power gained from people"

what do you mean by this?

you realize that our bodies have a self programmed death mechanism inside us? Its called apoptosis. I studied this process with my mother, it became to me obvious that the process is linked to specific chemicals that slow or speed up this process. These chemicals are released when person experiences happiness or saddness...in other words is happy with life or is dissatisfied. How long do you experience happiness from socializing in a particular event? this is what I mean when I say "in the way how efficiently you manage psychological power gained from people"

you realize that our bodies have a self programmed death mechanism inside us? Its called apoptosis. I studied this process with my mother, it became to me obvious that the process is linked to specific chemicals that slow or speed up this process. These chemicals are released when person experiences happiness or saddness...in other words is happy with life or is dissatisfied. How long do you experience happiness from socializing in a particular event? this is what I mean when I say "in the way how efficiently you manage psychological power gained from people"

I will look up that 'apoptosis' Dragon, thanks :) you genius you.

I will look up that 'apoptosis' Dragon, thanks :) you genius you.

i'm just lonely & want to reinforce my idea, im not trying to sound intelligent.

i'm just lonely & want to reinforce my idea, im not trying to sound intelligent.

ok I've read about it so aside from requiring p53 if absent, how does one think ones way into ensuring apoptosis occurs properly and those cells keep dividing?

ok I've read about it so aside from requiring p53 if absent, how does one think ones way into ensuring apoptosis occurs properly and those cells keep dividing?

It seems to me that apoptosis is triggered to slow down or speed up by release of specific chemicals. Antioxidants seem to slow down the process of cell degradation, but this is still not enough. What needs to be done is majority of tests to see what speeds up and what slows down apoptosis and then counteract this. Maybe specific actions and thoughts release specific chemical that trigger apoptosis to slow down...I am sure of it.

It seems to me that apoptosis is triggered to slow down or speed up by release of specific chemicals. Antioxidants seem to slow down the process of cell degradation, but this is still not enough. What needs to be done is majority of tests to see what speeds up and what slows down apoptosis and then counteract this. Maybe specific actions and thoughts release specific chemical that trigger apoptosis to slow down...I am sure of it.

I agree, I am on the antioxidants case.

The googling revealed that cell stress caused by inadequate nutrition can cause it to fail.

I fear of the pain that might be inflicted if i were to die but not death itself

Death is inevitable; meanwhile life is beautiful, interesting and full of challenges.

All our times have come
Here but now they're gone
Seasons don't fear the reaper
Nor do the wind the sun or the rain (we can be like they are)
Come on baby (don't fear the reaper)
Baby take my hand (don't fear the reaper)
We'll be able to fly (don't fear the reaper)
Baby I'm your man


Huh.

Needs more cowbell.

The fact that we cannot face death without anxiety indicates there is something intrinsically foreign about ceasing to exist.

The fact that we cannot face death without anxiety indicates there is something intrinsically foreign about ceasing to exist.

No, it indicates that we want to carry on living because we like it, and because we have family and friends that we know will be grief-stricken and that we don't want to leave behind.

No, it indicates that we want to carry on living because we like it, and because we have family and friends that we know will be grief-stricken and that we don't want to leave behind.

....and all these problems wouldn't be a problem if we continued to exist - so we find the very hint of ceasing to exist as a very unnatural proposal

It's the most natural thing in the world. People are born. People die. What is unnatural about it? I want to go on living forever for almost entirely selfish reasons. I don't find death unnatural, just undesirable.

your right there is nothing unnatural about it except the very notion of it happening to ourselves - I guess life is full of many dualities and the ultimat e duality is when you die, because one moment you re alive and the next you are dead ;)

I do not fear death. I fear that in case of my death, I am unable to do what I want to do.

Of course I FEAR DEATH.

Do you FEAR DEATH, ToR?

:D

I dont welcome death for the the fact that I am enslaved in this world for some time now

I do not fear death... I just fear pain.

I do not fear death... I just fear pain.
Prevent pain - commit suicide. (via non-painful method)

Life is probably more interesting, but I don't see any point in 'fearing' death. Won't prevent it, will it?