Do televangelists use electric shock?

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M*W: I've been thinking about the televangelists who touch people and make them fall down. Up to now, I always thought that they were just enactments. Now, I'm wondering if these evangelists are using some form of electric shock. The use of electricity in medicine is an old cure-all. Could they be doing this with an exposed wire taped to their hand but grounded so they won't feel anything? Just a thought. Any comments?

 

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That, or aikido.

 

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Perhaps. I've never heard of any cases of this actually happening, but it seems that the case is (usually) just the power of suggestion.

M*W, will you respond to your other threads please? Particularly the one about God as electricity?

 

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so theErk you think it's Hypnosis.
clever buggers these televangelists.

 

TheERK: M*W, will you respond to your other threads please? Particularly the one about God as electricity?
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M*W: I thought I had responded.

 

I don't know about electric shock, but I do recall that one evangelist was ordered by a jury to pay something like $600,000 after he "healed" a woman and his catchers did not catch her: having been healed of headaches or some such, she fell and broke her hip and back.

Then again, there's awlays Bob Tilton: "Put your hand on mine on your television screen and pray with me ...."

To this day, the phrases, "Stomach demons, I have dominion over you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ!" or , "Liver demons, come out!" still crack me up.

 

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M*W: I've watched Rod Parsley and Jimmy Swaggert yell and cry, but it wasn't tears -- it was sweat! Rod Parsley uses hypnotic repetitive chords on the piano. That, combined with the heat, and the believers sweating their asses off moving their sweaty bodies with the chants of the 'choir', it's almost like voodoo! Now, mind you, I only watched them for entertainment purposes! Jimmy can 'cry' on demand and Rod sweats profusely. Now I know why!

And why the big blonde wig and all the make-up and gold painted furniture on that televangelist's show (Jim and Janet) -- I don't remember what it's called. She reads letters and cryies and asks for mercy donations for all those hungry kids they sponsor -- yeah, right! They travel making videotapes of hungry kids, but I bet those kids get not one cent of all those donations! So much for Chri$tianity.

 

from www.atheists.org ..click atheism/religion/hypnosis,music

...Many faith-healing practitioners of hypnosis induce trance-like receptiveness in their prey by physically stunning them. They "lay on hands." Starting with their hands on the crown of the victim's head, they utter their hypnotic suggestions (i.e. "prayers") while gradually moving their hands down the side of the person's head. Finally, when their hands are on the person's neck and ears, they will suddenly put pressure on the nerve-rich cavity behind the ear and on the carotid sinus farther down the neck. This stuns and disorients the victim, and he or she becomes very imprintable. The verbal suggestions of the healer become implanted within as little as two or three seconds.

Of course, this does not always work. If the person being "healed" has a weak cardiovascular system, or if the "healer" presses on the carotid sinus too long, cardiac arrest may result and god cheats the evangelist out of the poor bloke's money. At least one notorious faith healer of our day has given up the practice because of this embarrassing and expensive side-effect. The reader must realize, this method of inducing hypnosis is extremely dangerous, and no competent practitioner will employ it. Only religionists still flirt with it.

 

No, not necessarily hypnosis. Although hynosis uses suggestion, suggestion doesn't always mean hypnosis. I think people 'fall' because they know that they're supposed to. It's part performance by the subject, and part placebo.

 

mw

are you yourself a victim of Electro Convulsive Therapy, because like frankenstein
you wont die, and you keep reviving inane threads

maybe they should increase your wattage during your therapy, say 5000 kw and at last you might light up this forum with you wit, because at the moment its more like dimwit

 

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I wouldn't doubt them using electricity. Remember the Baghdad battery? There's been theories about primitive batteries such as those being used by holy men to create "heavenly auras" to altars, statues, and other shrines, which would also provide shock to a person touching it thinking it was from God. I don't remember the exact details, but it's something like that.

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Medician Woman: that is called "Slain in the Spirit". Though i dont believe in it the same way they do, but it is truth. I believe that making it a tradition as they do is not gaining anything. Doesnt help, or make it more powerfull. If you are "Slain in the Spirit" you will "know".

I have had 1 "Slain in the Spirit". I will give you my experience so that you may know the difference between tradition and from God.

I was laying in my bed, fully awake. It came to me very quickly. I began to go into convultions. i could not control my body. I was squirming around and could not stop. I had no power over my own body. I called for God to help. At that moment i was in another plane. There i saw God's face. I heared his voice. The third thing was myself writeing what looks to be what God is saying.

I find nothing "wrong" with falling down when someone prays for you. But it doesnt give your a "boost" or something. Doesnt do anything magical. Its just tradition.

Its a misguided teaching just like speaking in tounges. To make this short the acual meaning to speaking in tounges is to speak a language no one can understand in that area....like if i spoke Spanish to someone who doesnt know it. The deciples started speaking in tounges so they can preach to those who speak those languages.

 

Bells if you have truely known what i have seen and heard there is no place in you for anything else. I generally avoid braging about my connection with God, but i did it for her sake to know the difference from tradition.

 

camphip: bells is right you should go and get yourself checked, this is the second time you've mentioned strange happenings, to yourself.

 

Archaeologists have found what they believe to be ancient batteries in Babylonia.

camphlis, it's not that the disciples spoke different languages but that they spoke one "angelic" language that everyone there understood. But you are correct that the modern speaking in tongues is an emotional exuberance rather than the actual tongues.