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It seems that Halloween has a pagan origin. Do non-believers object to the celebration?
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View Full Version : Do atheists object to Halloween? Why? 10-31-07, 02:25 PM It seems that Halloween has a pagan origin. Do non-believers object to the celebration? Nikelodeon 10-31-07, 02:26 PM No they dont, they revel in it. Poor souls. cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 02:27 PM What's interesting to me is that Christians are the ones that really get into it. Why? 10-31-07, 02:34 PM Well, being a Christian, I can see why. Halloween is all about demons, ghosts, evil and other worldly beings. It's about the other side - not God's. cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 02:36 PM Well, being a Christian, I can see why. Halloween is all about demons, ghosts, evil and other worldly beings. It's about the other side - not God's. then why did they burn witches? shichimenshyo 10-31-07, 02:36 PM It seems that Halloween has a pagan origin. Do non-believers object to the celebration? ...and here we go again. :bugeye: If you like caramel are you an atheist?!!!! Why? 10-31-07, 02:39 PM Well, doesn't celebrating Halloween seems inconsistent with the atheist's view that there are no supernatural forces? Bradley364 10-31-07, 02:40 PM No, Atheists shouldn't object to Halloween. Even so, I still don't enjoy Halloween that much. :wtf: shichimenshyo 10-31-07, 02:44 PM Well, doesn't celebrating Halloween seems inconsistent with the atheist's view that there are no supernatural forces? Halloween is just a day about candy and dressing up. Why? 10-31-07, 02:44 PM But they should object. If there are no demons, ghosts and other scary things, then isn't Halloween just a big farce? Bradley364 10-31-07, 02:44 PM Well, doesn't celebrating Halloween seems inconsistent with the atheist's view that there are no supernatural forces? Well, To an atheist its all just fun and games. Celebrating Halloween doesn't mean you believe supernatural forces exist. Its just a celebration, a festival, perhaps one of fear, wonder, our mastery over such things. We have control over the things that go bump in the night, we control (or try to) our fears. cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 02:45 PM Well, doesn't celebrating Halloween seems inconsistent with the atheist's view that there are no supernatural forces? They allow Christians to celebrate their God so why not allow the witches their celebrations as well. Enmos 10-31-07, 02:49 PM No. Why on earth would a non-believer object to a religious fest ? Unless the fest includes burning witches of course :bugeye: Why? 10-31-07, 02:50 PM Because God wants us to burn them. cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 02:51 PM Because God wants us to burn them. I thought your God was a tolarant one that preaches love, understanding and peace? Enmos 10-31-07, 02:52 PM Because God wants us to burn them. Wha ? Quit the bullshit.. are you serious about that !? Why? 10-31-07, 02:52 PM The witches should enjoy being burned. Afterall, it's just like where they're going. spidergoat 10-31-07, 02:53 PM But they should object. If there are no demons, ghosts and other scary things, then isn't Halloween just a big farce? You are quite correct, and I am reluctant to celebrate Halloween for that reason. On the other hand, I like that it pisses off Christians, so I'm torn. Nikelodeon 10-31-07, 02:53 PM I thought your God was a tolarant one that preaces love, understanding and peace? This is a common misunderstanding. God doesn't give a rats ass what you do to unbelievers, except convert them. If you don't because they wont listen, you can do whatever you want to them. Peace and love is reserved for believers. cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 02:53 PM The witches should enjoy being burned. Afterall, it's just like where they're going. What has witches done to you that makes you want to burn them? Bradley364 10-31-07, 02:54 PM No. Why on earth would a non-believer object to a religious fest ? Unless the fest includes burning witches of course :bugeye: I could name a few things that would cause me to object a religous festival Ignorance, Superstition, Violence. Also like most holidays, they may be based of a holiday founded by religion, but there modern day counter part is usually not associated with that said religion by most anymore. Bradley364 10-31-07, 02:57 PM This is a common misunderstanding. God doesn't give a rats ass what you do to unbelievers, except convert them. If you don't because they wont listen, you can do whatever you want to them. Peace and love is reserved for believers. :bugeye: :mad: :argue: I feel like communicating through smilies, The one true god. maxg 10-31-07, 02:57 PM But they should object. If there are no demons, ghosts and other scary things, then isn't Halloween just a big farce? This is like arguing atheists shouldn't go see horror movies. 99.9 percent of the people who go out on Halloween don't do it as a religous celebration. Why? 10-31-07, 02:58 PM Bravo, atheist! Why aren't you out there tearing bags of candy out of the hands of those little monsters? Would save us all a lot of money for supplying handouts. Bradley364 10-31-07, 02:59 PM ? I'm sorry i don't understand your point shichimenshyo 10-31-07, 02:59 PM Bravo, atheist! Why aren't you out there tearing bags of candy out of the hands of those little monsters? Would save us all a lot of money for supplying handouts. :bugeye: cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 03:00 PM Bravo, atheist! Why aren't you out there tearing bags of candy out of the hands of those little monsters? Would save us all a lot of money for supplying handouts. We will let you do that for us when you start burning the children dressed as witches. Why? 10-31-07, 03:00 PM Aren't you atheists politically connected enought to do away with Halloween? Enmos 10-31-07, 03:00 PM I could name a few things that would cause me to object a religous festival Ignorance, Superstition, Violence. Also like most holidays, they may be based of a holiday founded by religion, but there modern day counter part is usually not associated with that said religion by most anymore. By mentioning the witches I wanted to make clear that I won't object to any religious fest unless it involves illegal activities. Everybody has the right to practice their religion as long as they don't break any laws in the process. I can't speak for all atheists of course but i think any sane person would agree. Nikelodeon 10-31-07, 03:00 PM ? I'm sorry i don't understand your point And you never will. Until God kicks your sorry ass. Why? 10-31-07, 03:01 PM Munchkin witches deserve only smaller bon fires. shichimenshyo 10-31-07, 03:01 PM Aren't you atheists politically connected enought to do away with Halloween? We dont want to get rid of any holiday, if you want to celebrate it go for it. Just because we hold a different belief doesnt mean that we are intolerant of others beliefs. Not everyone is like you Why? Bradley364 10-31-07, 03:02 PM Ya, lets also abandon all intelligent thought, and live our lives tailored to an cross, murmuring payers to save us from the angry man in the sky that supposably loves us all. :p cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 03:03 PM Munchkin witches deserve only smaller bon fires. Now you want to kill children as well, will it never end? Bradley364 10-31-07, 03:03 PM This is getting ugly. :) Why? 10-31-07, 03:03 PM But, you spend all that money on candy on those munchkin witches! Can I have some of your money too? Enmos 10-31-07, 03:03 PM I think Why? is in some sort of religious crisis right now brought on by the Halloween festivities.. lol shichimenshyo 10-31-07, 03:05 PM I think Why? is in some sort of religious crisis right now brought on by the Halloween festivities.. lol I agree :D Why? 10-31-07, 03:06 PM Evil is an ever present crisis, brother and sisters. We must be vigilent and stamp out the demonic hords! Enmos 10-31-07, 03:07 PM Evil is an ever present crisis, brother and sisters. We must be vigilent and stamp out the demonic hords! Does that include you as well.. ? Bradley364 10-31-07, 03:08 PM Evil is an ever present crisis, brother and sisters. We must be vigilent and stamp out the demonic hords! Your joking right? cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 03:08 PM Evil is an ever present crisis, brother and sisters. We must be vigilent and stamp out the demonic hords! Sounds as if you're the demonic hordes if you ask me. Enmos 10-31-07, 03:09 PM Your joking right? Let's hope so. Otherwise we are witnessing a religious meltdown. Bradley364 10-31-07, 03:09 PM Antichrist maybe? Why? 10-31-07, 03:10 PM Do murder rates go up during Halloween? I hope so. Hopefully, it's the righteous offing the demon hord. Bradley364 10-31-07, 03:11 PM Do murder rates go up during Halloween? I hope so. Hopefully, it's the righteous offing the demon hord. Still joking...ohh please tell me your joking! :confused: shichimenshyo 10-31-07, 03:11 PM Do murder rates go up during Halloween? I hope so. Hopefully, it's the righteous offing the demon hord. Then maybe someone will do us a favor and "take care" of you :D Why? 10-31-07, 03:12 PM Murder in the name of the righteuous is not murder. It's doing God's will. You should know that atheist. Enmos 10-31-07, 03:13 PM Yeah, put you where you really want to be. MacGyver1968 10-31-07, 03:14 PM Sooooo...let me get this straight...you are condoning the murder of those who believe differently than you? How are you supposed to lead them to Christ if they're dead? Why? 10-31-07, 03:14 PM I don't want to be in Hell. Why, good muslims believe they get 72 virgins for blowing themselves and many other up. Didn't you read the Koran? cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 03:14 PM Do murder rates go up during Halloween? I hope so. Hopefully, it's the righteous offing the demon hord. I guess that's you going around killing all the children dressed as witches. shichimenshyo 10-31-07, 03:14 PM Sooooo...let me get this straight...you are condoning the murder of those who believe differently than you? How are you supposed to lead them to Christ if they're dead? in body bags? cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 03:15 PM I don't want to be in Hell. Why, good muslims believe they get 72 virgins for blowing themselves and many other up. Didn't you read the Koran? The "virgins" are only Catholic Nuns and they aren't to happy either. Why? 10-31-07, 03:15 PM They'll see Christ, as they plummet to a fire eternal damnation in the black abyss. cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 03:16 PM They'll see Christ, as they plummet to a fire eternal damnation in the black abyss. What do you see? A white afterglow from the burning children witches? MacGyver1968 10-31-07, 03:16 PM Ok...why has official popped a fuse upstairs or something...or this is just a Halloween joke. shichimenshyo 10-31-07, 03:17 PM Ok...why has official popped a fuse upstairs or something...or this is just a Halloween joke. I think its a really unfunny joke..lets all give him a sympathy laugh :bugeye: :roflmao: Why? 10-31-07, 03:18 PM Halloween is a joke to you atheists! Bradley364 10-31-07, 03:18 PM Murder in the name of the righteuous is not murder. It's doing God's will. You should know that atheist. You need some help friend. And umm, your scaring me..a lot. Good thing its Halloween Nikelodeon 10-31-07, 03:18 PM Yes. Why? 10-31-07, 03:19 PM Well, burning witches is no joke. That's got to hurt. Ouch! cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 03:19 PM Halloween is a joke to you atheists! It most certainly is, is there something wrong with that? You want to kill children while we want to let everyone enjoy their ways. Why? 10-31-07, 03:20 PM No. I want to kill zombies as well. KennyJC 10-31-07, 03:20 PM To me, Halloween is about dressing up stupid and annoying neighbours for sweets; Christmas is about Santa, red nosed reindeer and presents; Easter is about chocolate eggs. I don't celebrate any religious holidays. I don't acknowledge Jesus, but I still eat Easter eggs. cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 03:21 PM No. I want to kill zombies as well. Do you know of any? Why? 10-31-07, 03:22 PM So, these celebrations are just gastronomical events? spidergoat 10-31-07, 03:22 PM Halloween is a religious holiday, just not the Christian religion. shichimenshyo 10-31-07, 03:22 PM Do you know of any? People who play W.o.w. ? Why? 10-31-07, 03:22 PM If I see any tonight, I will certainly put an ice pick in its eye. cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 03:23 PM So, these celebrations are just gastronomical events? Yes, cannabalism is the way to go!! shichimenshyo 10-31-07, 03:23 PM If I see any tonight, I will certainly put an ice pick in its eye. You always make my day :D Why? 10-31-07, 03:24 PM Maybe, we should start with burning you - cannibal! Bradley364 10-31-07, 03:26 PM ill be back clumps Why? 10-31-07, 03:28 PM Hannibal Lector enjoyed many gastronomical events. He was an atheist too. cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 03:30 PM Hannibal Lector enjoyed many gastronomical events. He was an atheist too. Actually he was a Catholic. Why? 10-31-07, 03:32 PM Probably, a fallen Catholic. cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 03:33 PM Probably, a fallen Catholic. No, he stood upright, most of thetime. Of course when he was eating he always sat down. Why? 10-31-07, 03:35 PM Fallen from grace you devil worshipping hate monger. cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 03:37 PM Fallen from grace you devil worshipping hate monger. Why thank you , you Christian believing , witch hating so and so! Why? 10-31-07, 03:39 PM No, I would rather drown you in your ocean of stupid postings. cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 03:40 PM No, I would rather drown you in your ocean of stupid postings. Thank you, now drown! :D Cris 10-31-07, 03:41 PM why?, Murder in the name of the righteuous is not murder. It's doing God's will.That is the reasoning suicide bombers use. You should know that atheist.I think most atheists do understand that and why that reject the evil that religions sponsor. Why? 10-31-07, 03:42 PM Perhaps, a better demise for you would be a stake through the heart? But, given that you don't have one, that won't work. shichimenshyo 10-31-07, 03:42 PM No, I would rather drown you in your ocean of stupid postings. we are not talking about you :p Why? 10-31-07, 03:44 PM I'm through with Cosmictravlers demon loving hate mongering posts! Let's finish him off now! No one invite him to any Halloween parties! cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 03:45 PM I'm through with Cosmictravlers demon loving hate mongering posts! Let's finish him off now! No one invite him to any Halloween parties! They don't invite me, I only have sliced dried apples whenever I go out. shichimenshyo 10-31-07, 03:45 PM I'm through with Cosmictravlers demon loving hate mongering posts! Let's finish him off now! No one invite him to any Halloween parties! I want him to come to mine! We can worship demons and promote hate together! Orleander 10-31-07, 03:46 PM why would anyone hate free candy day??? CANDY!!! Not dried apples. You might as well hand out fruitcake...ya fruitcake! cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 03:47 PM I want him to come to mine! We can worship demons and promote hate together! :bravo: :itold: Why? 10-31-07, 03:48 PM He gives out dried fruit, because he is a dried fruit. No offense - other gays on this site. Cris 10-31-07, 03:49 PM Why?, It seems that Halloween has a pagan origin. Do non-believers object to the celebration?I observe that most reasonable people see Halloween as an excuse to enjoy the fantasy that it represents. In the same way that I enjoy reading science fiction and fantasy that often portray magic and spiritual things. One who is grounded in reason has little difficulty distinguishing between reality and fantasy. Those who object to Halloween tend to be the religious who believe that the dark and spooky things of Hallowen are real posibilities. MacGyver1968 10-31-07, 03:50 PM I want him to come to mine! We can worship demons and promote hate together! Can I come too, Shi? I want me some demon lovin' too! I'll bring the pentagrams! shichimenshyo 10-31-07, 03:52 PM Can I come too, Shi? I want me some demon lovin' too! I'll bring the pentagrams! Only if you bringh children to sacrifice before our dark lords Why? 10-31-07, 03:52 PM Make sure you sit in the middle of the pentagram, so your demon God lord can envelope you in a fire of hate, while he watches the flesh burn from you skull and drip into his belching sulfurous mouth! MacGyver1968 10-31-07, 03:53 PM I am totally there! I'll swing by Why's church on the way and clean out the day care center. shichimenshyo 10-31-07, 03:53 PM Make sure you sit in the middle of the pentagram, so your demon God lord can envelope you in a fire of hate, while he watches the flesh burn from you skull and drip into his belching sulfurous mouth! Ahhh that would be just wonderful Orleander 10-31-07, 03:54 PM I am totally there! I'll swing by Why's church on the way and clean out the day care center. ooo, need a date?? <hint hint> Why? 10-31-07, 03:56 PM Go now and celebrate Halloween, you evil pack of wasted pussies! cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 03:56 PM He gives out dried fruit, because he is a dried fruit. No offense - other gays on this site. I'm not gay, a little happy perhaps at times ... but not gay! MacGyver1968 10-31-07, 03:57 PM I'm gay for demons. :) I'll pick you up at 9:00pm O. Orleander 10-31-07, 03:58 PM sweeeeeeeeeeeet!!! cosmictraveler 10-31-07, 03:59 PM Go now and celebrate Halloween, you evil pack of wasted pussies! We will stop by later to see you puking! :D MacGyver1968 10-31-07, 04:05 PM Hey Shi, we're going to need a virgin for the sacrifice to the prince of darkness tonight...you got darksidzz's number? shichimenshyo 10-31-07, 04:07 PM Hey Shi, we're going to need a virgin for the sacrifice to the prince of darkness tonight...you got darksidzz's number? Hey now, you know that Why..errr I mean darksidzz is not down with being a sacrifice, even though he is clearly a virgin :D Fraggle Rocker 10-31-07, 04:10 PM I have a really great time celebrating Christmas and Easter. They still have a shred of religion about them, but it's pretty easy to ignore and just get on with the eating and drinking and partying. Halloween lost its last shred of religion in the 19th century--at least in America. There's nothing to it except eating and drinking and partying. So why should we not enjoy it? It's been said that in America, the two most widely recognized icons of Christianity are Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. I get a big kick out of that so the celebrations don't bother me at all. Bradley364 11-01-07, 02:39 PM Its over Why? stop it now. You insults are nearly insane and we don't need another hater of knowledge on a forum based around that very same idea. On a final note, Halloween is a wildly celebrated holiday that has roots in religion but that aspect as left it completely, I don't enjoy Halloween as much as others but I do find much to respect in it, specifically the way us humans master our fears and turn it to entertainment, it really shows us how far our minds have evolved. ;) Brad out... Hapsburg 11-01-07, 10:07 PM It seems that Halloween has a pagan origin. Do non-believers object to the celebration? Depends on the atheist. Atheism does not equal anti-religion. It simply is a theological stance which does not affirm a belief in a god or gods. For example, I'm an atheist. However, I am also a neopagan, and my religion celebrates Halloween, or Samhain, in respect for the ancient Celtic palaeopaganism which contributed so much to mainstream neopaganism. Generally, however, most atheists reject organised religion, and are more often Humanists. They practice Halloween because of its tradition as a civic, secular holiday. visceral_instinct 11-15-07, 02:39 PM Nope, I don't. It's just harmless fun. Syzygys 11-15-07, 05:51 PM Hey, here is a quiz about me, try to guess if I like Halloween or not!: 1. I generally don't like children. 2. I like candy. 3. At Halloween strange children come to my house begging for candy. Thus Syzygys ..... Halloween. What's your answer? :) P.S.: Oh yes, and Halloween is just the Christianized version of a pagan holiday.... Michael 11-15-07, 06:02 PM It seems that Halloween has a pagan origin. Do non-believers object to the celebration?The festival of Samhain is a celebration of the end of the harvest season in Gaelic culture. Mystech 11-15-07, 10:54 PM It seems that Halloween has a pagan origin. Do non-believers object to the celebration? Only people who hate the joy of children, fun costumes, and candy object to Halloween. Look at San Fransisco's Castro Street - possibly the gayest neighborhood in the world, full of elitist atheist effete homosexuals, and yet they celebrate Halloween as if it were the birthday of gay-Jesus. (well except this year but that's because the city were a bunch of jerks and canceled the celebration and cut off train service to the area) |