It's a poll.... I'm not the same as I use to be :p

I chose men.. reason being they aren't afraid to hurt your feelings, they'll be honest.. women lie and think they spare us, in reality we find out later and feel worse :(

well after a girl has been on a date with you shell go tell and i dont know i just think women are more vicious

men tend to get along with each other alot more, if you study alot of women together in big groups, they tend to split up into little social sects and bitch about each other alot, mostly backstabbing vindictive catty behaviour,

women gossip alot more to each other, and also talk alot behind peoples backs, where as men mostly are upfront and say things to peoples faces,


obviously there are exceptions to the rule, but many social experiments have gained alot of facts about this matter. the big brother experiment is a prime example to back up my claims,


peace.

Men but barely, I've known far more women in my time, but the vast majority lie, cheat, backstab, fake friendship etc compared to men generally being more blunt and open. Conversely this means men suck at keeping secrets as they don't see the big deal about anything and are quite happy to share all. So it's marginal.

I trust men more. Men are far easier to talk to.

Interesting... do you think that perhaps the reason women are least trust-worthy is because somehow unconsiously they seek drama? I was sitting here reflecting on this topic, it came to be that maybe, just maybe, women growing up with fathers lack as much attention than their male counterparts. It's likely that in order to gain their fathers attention they might cause dramatic events in order to have him help solve / console them. If true then logically as they grow up women would seek to create mini-dramas in order to have men notice them, not just sexually but mentally. Exercising their persona as it were...

Anyway it's just a thought.

PS Similar to ToR?

Trust with regard to what?
Money, relationships, your car, your girlfriend, your house and cat for a week when you go on holiday? What?

Anything in general, but mostly things directly effecting their socializing, etc. Anything personable to them...

I trust men more. Men are far easier to talk to.

The other way round for me.

I trust men more, the males only owe me £200, the females owe me over £2000.

The other way round for me.

because your one of those metrosexual/gay guys who hangs with the girls, do each others hair, gossip about what boys you like. :)

men are much easyer to relax with, women complicate even the most logical and simple of tasks.

peace.

You are correct Empty chi person :C~

because your one of those metrosexual/gay guys who hangs with the girls, do each others hair, gossip about what boys you like. :)
Nah, they do my hair. I don't like boys. Metrosexual? Nope. Non-sexual.

men are much easyer to relax with, women complicate even the most logical and simple of tasks.
Women have far more interesting conversations and far more honest ones. And they like a pint as much as anyone.

You are correct Empty chi person :C~

yeah its obvious oli is like that i know.

peace.

The women of this world confuse me :shrug:

Ya' know, there's one thing that I think we should all give credit to the women for .......mostly they're the best fuckin' liars you've probably ever had to deal with. Don'tcha think?

Baron Max

Interesting... do you think that perhaps the reason women are least trust-worthy is because somehow unconsiously they seek drama?
Perhaps???? Unconsciously?????
You have many things to learn young grasshopper, but many moons to do so.

Nah, they do my hair. I don't like boys. Metrosexual? Nope. Non-sexual.


Women have far more interesting conversations and far more honest ones. And they like a pint as much as anyone.

lol, i would have to say 80% of women talk about shallow things that do not interest me. and then again men 80% of men talk about shallow things that do not interest me,

i actualy hate talking about football and cars. i love playing football but cant stand watching it, i dont watch sports apart from martial arts matches like k1/pride/ufc, i dont even like watching boxing much,

i find it hard to associate with alot of the modern people actualy, i just dont have much in common with the average modern person, but luckily i have alot of friends who are very simular to me.

but as a general rule i still find women more manipulative and untrust-worthy.

peace.

Ya' know, there's one thing that I think we should all give credit to the women for .......mostly they're the best fuckin' liars you've probably ever had to deal with. Don'tcha think?

Baron Max

yeah i agree that you dont find many honest women in the world, i find men alot more honorable, women seem to have very little honour actualy, they back stab there own friends and even family over even small things,

i find that men will respect and honour there friends more and stand up for them, where women will backstab over small things.

peace.

lol, i would have to say 80% of women talk about shallow things that do not interest me. and then again men 80% of men talk about shallow things that do not interest me,

i actualy hate talking about football and cars. i love playing football but cant stand watching it, i dont watch sports apart from martial arts matches like k1/pride/ufc, i dont even like watching boxing much,
My point exactly. But most guys won't entertain the thought of talking about something other than cars, footie, shagging and drinking. Whereas women will consider other subjects of conversation.

but as a general rule i still find women more manipulative and untrust-worthy.
Yeah but they can only manipulate you if you want something from them.

I trust the people who have stood by me, men or women.

women are like snakes, they are constantly into something

women are like snakes, they are constantly into something

:bugeye: :mad:

prime example is that my wife actualy walked out on me today, i dont know if its the hormones of pregnancy or what, but i just got totaly stabbed in the back and left,



peace.

prime example is that my wife actualy walked out on me today, i dont know if its the hormones of pregnancy or what, but i just got totaly stabbed in the back and left,



peace.

well you know, gotta deal with that.

prime example is that my wife actualy walked out on me today, i dont know if its the hormones of pregnancy or what, but i just got totaly stabbed in the back and left,



peace.

She probably needs some "me" space.

You mean GONE, LEFT YOU, walked out?

:bugeye: :mad:

I mean...even on your avatar you have that lady with an eye patch, and she is one mean lady, looking into her one eye I can see both hatred, nobility, and excessive despair of others.

My point exactly. But most guys won't entertain the thought of talking about something other than cars, footie, shagging and drinking. Whereas women will consider other subjects of conversation.


Yeah but they can only manipulate you if you want something from them.

thats true actualy, i do find women are more open minded than men that can be easily stuck in their ways.


women dont manipulate me, nobody does because i just ignore them, but women manipulate each other alot and play too many games, they also try to manipulate me and other men wich is as bad as manipulating somebody.

peace.

She probably needs some "me" space.

yeah she can help herself to all the space she wants, i dont play silly games with women i will just ignore her and give no support and see how she does without me.


peace.

I mean...even on your avatar you have that lady with an eye patch, and she is one mean lady, looking into her one eye I can see both hatred, nobility, and excessive despair of others.

Because that's the role the ACTRESS was PLAYING in a MOVIE.
Despair of others? I'm beginning to sympathise with that emotion.:rolleyes:

You mean GONE, LEFT YOU, walked out?

yeah and said some very nasty things, quite the tounge on her actualy. she took alot of her stuff and went, and even went as far as saying she will not let the child live with me when its born,


peace.

yeah and said some very nasty things, quite the tounge on her actualy. she took alot of her stuff and went, and even went as far as saying she will not let the child live with me when its born,


peace.

are you for real? .... divorce ? :( don't let that happen, how could she leave a tai-ji specialist?:bugeye:

women dont manipulate me, nobody does because i just ignore them, but women manipulate each other alot and play too many games,
That's the misconception that men have.
Because women look at things differently and are, for one thing, more open emotionally, then the "manipulation" and "games" is equal on both sides and part of "female society" - they all play by pretty much the same rules with the same weapons.
It's just that guys aren't used to that outlook on life and see it as "underhand".
My two sisters make each other cry once a month or so from arguments and what I see as sheer bitchiness - and a day later they're together in a cafe having coffee and shopping together.

yeah and said some very nasty things, quite the tounge on her actualy. she took alot of her stuff and went, and even went as far as saying she will not let the child live with me when its born,

Chi, man. I'm sorry. I've been through something similar (not with a kid involved though) and you have my sympathy. For what it's worth.

are you for real? .... divorce ? :( don't let that happen, how could she leave a tai-ji specialist?:bugeye:

maybe a divorce im not sure yet, if thats what she wants she sure picked a great time to go through all of this. my guess is that its the hormones, but some things she said in such a calm manner that im not so sure.


anyway life goes on.

peace.

maybe a divorce im not sure yet, if thats what she wants she sure picked a great time to go through all of this. my guess is that its the hormones, but some things she said in such a calm manner that im not so sure.


anyway life goes on.

peace.

:eek: life goes on? Give her fruits with estrogen stimulating hormone!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=15256741&dopt=Abstract

Schizandra chinensis will do just that.

http://info.invil.org/Storage/4/navigation_img/dongdong_Schizandra.JPG

Seriously talk to her...than give her this fruits...;) slip it into a shake...do it!

order it: http://www.myvitanet.com/schizchin1oz.html

Chi, man. I'm sorry. I've been through something similar (not with a kid involved though) and you have my sympathy. For what it's worth.

yeah positive energy from anyone is worth alot. if it ends here for us then so be it,

peace.

If it does end life DOES go on. But it takes time.
It's a huge wrench and won't hit you properly for a while, believe me I know.

:eek: life goes on? Give her fruits with estrogen stimulating hormone!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=15256741&dopt=Abstract

Schizandra chinensis will do just that.

http://info.invil.org/Storage/4/navigation_img/dongdong_Schizandra.JPG

Seriously talk to her...than give her this fruits...;) slip it into a shake...do it!

order it: http://www.myvitanet.com/schizchin1oz.html



i am not like normal people i get over things the same day it happens, i will attempt to speak to her tommorow. we actualy have a scan to go to for the baby in a couple of days, im not sure i will be going.

when it comes to custody of a child and laws regarding fathers, men dont stand a chance, i refuse to be some kind of weekend father that visits his child,

either i raise him as my son living with me, or he is not my child, i can detatch myself from anything and anybody. maybe its a gift maybe its a curse,


peace.

i am not like normal people i get over things the same day it happens, i will attempt to speak to her tommorow. we actualy have a scan to go to for the baby in a couple of days, im not sure i will be going.

when it comes to custody of a child and laws regarding fathers, men dont stand a chance, i refuse to be some kind of weekend father that visits his child,

either i raise him as my son living with me, or he is not my child, i can detatch myself from anything and anybody. maybe its a gift maybe its a curse,


peace.


what?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:
Wrong thinking, dont let the divorce happen.
Do something. please. The child is the purpose of life ... change her mind. change yourself. be different. act different. change for her. talk to her. but please do it for the child, think of the child as the sole goal of this life.

If it does end life DOES go on. But it takes time.
It's a huge wrench and won't hit you properly for a while, believe me I know.

no ive gone through all of the stages i think. i have trained myself to accept loss as a part of life. getting upset and stressed over things for long periods of time will only shorten my life span and age my face. not to mention deplete my energy,


she walked out she can either stay out or come back, i will accept her back i hold no grudge, but i will not chase after anybody begging.


peace.

what?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:
Wrong thinking, dont let the divorce happen.
Do something. please. The child is the purpose of life ... change her mind. change yourself. be different. act different. change for her. talk to her. but please do it for the child, think of the child as the sole goal of this life.


hmm, yes children are important, but i refuse to let her gain power over me,


peace.

hmm, yes children are important, but i refuse to let her gain power over me,


peace.

just like that? and that's all? you rather have power than care for a child?
Remember you are on Earth at most 130 years in those years you must leave a positive mark that will make you realize that this life was spent for a purpose.

Uh, kids are nice and all but they are not the purpose of life.

Uh, kids are nice and all but they are not the purpose of life.

what?!!!!!:bugeye: :eek: Yes they are. What is with you people?:confused:

just like that? and that's all? you rather have power than care for a child?
Remember you are on Earth at most 130 years in those years you must leave a positive mark that will make you realize that this life was spent for a purpose.



my seed will walk this earth i have accomplished that, i have training to accomplish this will just hinder me if i spend energy on foolish games. talking to a woman pumped up on hormones will prove no good, they are irrational and stupid when they are pregnant,

i would love to raise my child and care for it, but if she does not let me live with my child, and be a part of the family then i will part ways with them, i do not like the idea of being told when i can and cant see my own son.

peace.

my seed will walk this earth i have accomplished that, i have training to accomplish this will just hinder me if i spend energy on foolish games. talking to a woman pumped up on hormones will prove no good, they are irrational and stupid when they are pregnant,

i would love to raise my child and care for it, but if she does not let me live with my child, and be a part of the family then i will part ways with them, i do not like the idea of being told when i can and cant see my own son.

peace.

...well if you realllllllly love him. Steal him. Run away to Cambodia...or Fillipinos and live there with your son.

...well if you realllllllly love him. Steal him. Run away to Cambodia...or Fillipinos and live there with your son.

yes i have thought about taking the child. what are the laws on that in the uk?


peace.

yes i have thought about taking the child. what are the laws on that in the uk?


peace.

... my guess is jail-time. But I am not from UK.

... my guess is jail-time. But I am not from UK.

does the woman get jail time for taking the child away from me to begin with? how can i be jailed though if i am the father,

for a world run by men, we are sure sexist towards the man arent we.


peace.

does the woman get jail time for taking the child away from me to begin with? how can i be jailed though if i am the father,

for a world run by men, we are sure sexist towards the man arent we.


peace.

yeah we are sexist. can't change that by yourself.
Its time to ACT. Either steal the child and run away or make sure she gets the estrogen shots and get back with her.

anyway maybe oli is right and it hasnt hit me properly yet, i actualy have no experience in this because its my first child. but im pretty sure that i was hurt alot earlyer and now im feeling alot better.

im sure i went through many stages very quickly and now i accept it. maybe its a delusion that i accept it and deep down i actualy still am very hurt.

sometimes i wish i didnt screw with my emotions when training throughout my life,


peace.

anyway maybe oli is right and it hasnt hit me properly yet, i actualy have no experience in this because its my first child. but im pretty sure that i was hurt alot earlyer and now im feeling alot better.

im sure i went through many stages very quickly and now i accept it. maybe its a delusion that i accept it and deep down i actualy still am very hurt.

sometimes i wish i didnt screw with my emotions when training throughout my life,

peace.

screw emotions...life and yourself...child is a priority!

yeah we are sexist. can't change that by yourself.
Its time to ACT. Either steal the child and run away or make sure she gets the estrogen shots and get back with her.

You can't give pregnant woman estrogen shots:eek:

how about gun shots, ive got a couple of those handy for anybody.

peace.

You can't give pregnant woman estrogen shots:eek:

well than estrogen fruits. Give her wild blueberries, feed her home made yoghurt, give her soy products

well than estrogen fruits. Give her wild blueberries, feed her home made yoghurt, give her soy products

i dont know where she is, she walked out remember and i havent got round to seeing where she went too, im busy i have things to do, like post on sciforums and go to sleep.




peace.

i dont know where she is, she walked out remember and i havent got round to seeing where she went too, im busy i have things to do, like post on sciforums and go to sleep.


:bugeye: :eek: :( ....

:bugeye: :eek: :( ....

lol it was a joke lighten up. i will talk to her just not today. but i beg to no one.

peace.

lol it was a joke lighten up. i will talk to her just not today. but i beg to no one.

peace.

I hope you will take it more seriously and realize the true purpose of life is child. Take care.

lol, i would have to say 80% of women talk about shallow things that do not interest me. and then again men 80% of men talk about shallow things that do not interest me,

i actualy hate talking about football and cars. i love playing football but cant stand watching it, i dont watch sports apart from martial arts matches like k1/pride/ufc, i dont even like watching boxing much,

i find it hard to associate with alot of the modern people actualy, i just dont have much in common with the average modern person, but luckily i have alot of friends who are very simular to me.

Same here really, although i dont have huge amounts of friends who share my interests.
Thats the thing with living in a small to medium sized city, its all 9-5 and pints down the local on a saturday, there really isnt much aspiration beyond that.
If i even atempted to talk to someone about things that interest me like the history of the enlightenment, id probably be chased out of the city.

Christ, cant wait till i get accepted in higher education, move out of here, and can meet some fellow pretentious book-botherers like myself. :D

prime example is that my wife actualy walked out on me today, i dont know if its the hormones of pregnancy or what, but i just got totaly stabbed in the back and left,

Maybe you should look at the root cause of why she walked out.

either i raise him as my son living with me, or he is not my child, i can detatch myself from anything and anybody. maybe its a gift maybe its a curse,
Can I ask a personal question. Why would you make your child pay for something he/she has no control over?

Don't you think your child deserves a father?

yes i have thought about taking the child. what are the laws on that in the uk?
Instead of stealing your child (which is illegal by the way), you could ask for custody or joint custody (as in half and half).

does the woman get jail time for taking the child away from me to begin with? how can i be jailed though if i am the father,

If when the child is born and you have a custody agreement, for example, and she dishonours that agreement and runs off with the child, then yes, she can go to jail for it.

but i beg to no one.
You don't need to beg.

Just talk to her and ask yourself and her what the problem in your marriage is and why she would have felt the need or desire to walk out. And then go from there.

It's a poll.... I'm not the same as I use to be :p

I chose men.. reason being they aren't afraid to hurt your feelings, they'll be honest.. women lie and think they spare us, in reality we find out later and feel worse :(

Haven't you heard the phrase "Bros before hoes?" It's that simple.

No estrogen-containing anything. Her estrogen and progesterone are already increased.

Maybe you should look at the root cause of why she walked out.

Is that the new term these days ....root fuckin' cause??

That drives me fuckin' crazy!!! Root cause? One could take that back to something in the fuckin' cave days, for god's sake. How can anyone know what the fuckin' "root cause" is for some action that took place yesterday?

And more to the point, even if one knows, how is that going to change what's already happened? Or already happening?

Baron Max

Is that the new term these days ....root fuckin' cause??

That drives me fuckin' crazy!!! Root cause? One could take that back to something in the fuckin' cave days, for god's sake. How can anyone know what the fuckin' "root cause" is for some action that took place yesterday?

And more to the point, even if one knows, how is that going to change what's already happened? Or already happening?

Baron Max

By asking Baron. By asking why she felt the need or desire to walk out. And while it may have happened yesterday, the "root cause" may be the reason she has not come back.

Finding out why she left can change what is already happening because maybe, just maybe they can work it out. There has to be a reason that she walked out. It could be anything or nothing at all and it is for them to work out if they can. But you can't work something out unless you know what the actual problem might be.

I'd assume he asked her what was the matter, it's probably her fault :p

Root Cause = Her?

I'd assume he asked her what was the matter, it's probably her fault :p

Root Cause = Her?

root cause is his wish for control/Power

I'd assume he asked her what was the matter, it's probably her fault :p

Root Cause = Her?


root cause is his wish for control/Power

I'd just like to point out that neither of you are qualified or in a position or ever have been in a position to make judgements on what is currently happening in Chi's life.
And smart-alec comments do NOT help.
If you do want to help I suggest you leave the topic alone.
Just a suggestion.

I'd just like to point out that neither of you are qualified or in a position or ever have been in a position to make judgements on what is currently happening in Chi's life.
And smart-alec comments do NOT help.
If you do want to help I suggest you leave the topic alone.
Just a suggestion.

:mad: I am a human I qualify in making suggestions. He is the one who decides what to do with those suggestions.
Also my genius masterplan on using estrogen stimulating fruits is def. bulletproof.

chi should not listen to anybody here......nobody has anything to lose by saying shit....just him, his wife, and his baby.

i spoke to her, she is being way over the top about everything. apparently she is pissed with something i did nearly 2 years ago and was already resolved.

and because i told her mother to fuck herself and stay out of my life.

hormones are great, im going to just chill and let her come to her senses when the emotions die down a tad.

as i said before there is no logic in talking to a pregnant women, i will just leave her alone and not sweat it.


peace.

i spoke to her, she is being way over the top about everything. apparently she is pissed with something i did nearly 2 years ago and was already resolved.

and because i told her mother to fuck herself and stay out of my life.

:(

I know when I was pregnant I found myself getting closer to my own mother (which is a bit strange since we were never that close before hand). Maybe she feels the same way. And if her mother does not come around anymore because you and she do not get along, it could have something to do with it. I don't know what else to tell you chi.:(

hormones are great, im going to just chill and let her come to her senses when the emotions die down a tad.

as i said before there is no logic in talking to a pregnant women, i will just leave her alone and not sweat it.
Good move. Let her calm down a bit and think things through. Possibly try to give her some space.

Hormones play havoc on a woman during her pregnancy. I know many things made me really cranky, even little things that would normally not bother me at all. Her body is going through hell at the moment.. the weight gain.. fear of what is to come.. loss of control.. stress.. it all adds up. Give her the oppotunity to talk things out and let her get it out of her system. Possibly even invite her mother over and you leave and let them have a meal together or something. Most importantly, keep telling her how you feel about her.