Diversity Is Strength! (Also Crime And Cannibalism)
By Sam Francis

If you'd like a glimpse of the future of the Western world—not just Europe but the United States and most other currently white majority countries—forget the happy chatter about the great Republican victory last week and take a look at Theodore Dalrymple's account in the Autumn issue of the Manhattan Institute's City Journal of what's happening in Paris, France.

What's happening in Paris is that Paris is rather quickly being annihilated, and the civilization of which it has long been a symbol along with it.

Mr. Dalrymple points out that while the population of Paris has risen by a mere 20 percent or less since 1959, reported crimes in the city have increased from 600,000 in that year to 4 million today. Reported cases of arson have increased by some 2,500 percent in the last seven years, and robbery with violence has increased by 44.5 percent since 1996.

Why is this? Mr. Dalrymple is somewhat coy in giving a frank and honest answer.

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Actually I am sharing the legitimate concerns of Prozak about this! (this doesn't mean I am into the white supremacy bussiness)

Here in Holland there seems to be a "special problem" with Maroccon immigrants and people from the Dutch antilles....

In one of my previous lives i was a systemadministrator at a large Academical Medical Hospital where many medicinestudents were educated to become doctors. amongst them, beside the white middle-class I found a good amount of surinam-Hindu, chinese and Turkey people.

I wondered why there were no Maroccon and Antillians medicine students while they do present a significant number of our population , especially in the urban areas....

So I asked one of the turkish guys.

But first a little background:

Now Turkish people we invited here in the mid 50's to come to Holland as cheap labour to give impuls to our economy that was just recovering from the war (thx for the marshall plan america) , primarely help us build ships.
Most of the Turkish people came from what we consider pretty backward villages in the rural side of anatolie, many of them could not write etc....
Later on , after Japanese and Koreans started to build cheaper ships than our turkish people, they become involved in the cleaning industry: jobs the by now spoiled dutchman would find to dirty to do it himself.

As our economy flourished, more office building were erected, hence more floores needed to be wiped and this is where the marokkons came in, at first they seamed to be even cheaper than turkish people , BIG MISTAKE! this is typical for the short term profit greedyness of dutch people. Later on it prooved that the part of the Maroccons were causing a lot of trouble (mainly vandalism, small time drugdealing and streetrobbery) and heavily exploited our SOCIAL WELFARE system, which was designed to accomodate the weak and poor, not Ali Baba and the 40 robbers.
Somehow the Turkish people had managed by manual hard work to earn enough money to send their kids to university, while the marrocons just send their kids to the streets to earn money....


Anyway to get back to the story:

the turkish guy told me that eventough his parents came from the same kind of backward peasantvillage like the typical berber maroccan, there was a HUGE difference in culture and the role of religion.

- Sepereration of church and state, It was Atta Tuurk who envisioned that islamic turkey should be part of a modern western soceity. By forcing seperation of church and state this process was not held back by the interests and the archaic believes of the imams.

- Turkish children are raised to be proud children , To be proud at turkey and the former ottoman empire, just like some white dudes like to remember the heydays of the roman empire. whenever u switch to Turkish television you will find a Turkish flag dangling around Why? Because Turkey is a nation of warriors. They originated (you wont believe this) in Northern China in what is now West Mongolia, due to clashes with other cultures they were forced to move to the west, where they kicked out some Kurds , planted their flag and claimed This is Turkey , we have fought damn hard to get our place under the sun, so this why the turkish flag has a special meaning, remembering the sacrifices and the wars and to unite them in case of war (seems the founding of the state israel is not the first land robbery in the region but who gives a shit about the kurds anyway as long as they do not commit suicide bombings at western hotels, our friend Saddam Hussain will take care of them nicely thank you)
Turkish children learn to obey their parents and superiors, because actually they were trained to become soldiers in an organised army to defend / expand their nation. Legacy of this is that Turkish boys and girls have far more discipline and ambition to become something in soceity than Marroccons, where parents do not care too much about their children and it is custom that right and wrong is tought at school (using a piece of wood to beat the children if necessary!) and by the churches and their archaic believes....


Bottomline is that some cultures seem to be more fit to adapt to another culture. Except for some of my higher educated ? liberated marrocan friends i appers that many of them can not handle the freedom of a western soceity.......

If I would stated things like this 10 years ago, i would be put aside as being "rascist" etc. but now that problems with immigrants have exploded thoughout europe, even the most left wing parties, admit that there is a problem and that something need to be done.

If the person is dead they are so much meat. Heck, after Im dead you can eat me if you want. I wont care, ill be dead.

If it dosn't hurt someone else feel free to do it in the privacy of your own home.

Vortexxx, I hear you; to some degree, immigration has proven an uneven issue.

It's true in America here also. The Irish who came here were as impoverished as the African slaves, yet somehow made it, at a time when they weren't considered white. Same with many other groups, most recently Asians (notably Vietnamese). But Africans and Hispanics seem to l4g b3h1nd.

Meh, any idiot knows that crime rate goes up as population density goes up. Obviously, the more immigrants, the more crime.

Not to mention the fact that property crimes go up when the number of poor people goes up.

I'm not sure why Vortexx mentioned race. It's really irrelevent, as is the nationality of the immigrants. Look at the results of the Irish immigration into America during the last century and before. Same thing happened. Hell, even the fucking Jewish influx of the 1890's and abouts led to a increase in simular problems.

According to stats, as immgrants increase so does the average per-person-GDP. So does the quality of life. It's in my econ textbook.

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Vortexx, when the Turks first got to Turkey, it was the Anatolians, and not the Kurds, whom they kicked out.

The Irish who came here were as impoverished as the African slaves, yet somehow made it, at a time when they weren't considered white.
I'm curious as to why you would compare the Irish with African slaves. I don't think they share the same circumstances. The Irish were not uprooted from their homeland and forced into slavery. Even after slavery ended, the blacks experienced various forms of discrimination much more severe and longer than the Irish were subjected to.

I chekked my sources GIl, you are right, apparently the Turkish guy conveniantly "forget" to tell me they kicked out anatolians too.;)

It's true that if population rate goes up crime rate goes up . What really important is are the percentages. Crime rate relatively got up far more than would be expected from the population increase alone. You will find much more dense populated cities in Asia with lower crime rates (although i must admit that me as a european, with my western culture, would probably go crazy living in an antfarm like that, obviously my culture is not really fit for that ;-)

About the "race" of nationality thing. I mentioned that for allmost every constructive criticism in the past you got labeled "rascist" in Holland (we, the founders of apartheid in south africa haha), obviously we have a bad concious.

This is a real shame, for if we had an open and frank discussion 10 years ago like we have now, we could have done some things before the problems would become so big.

Originally posted by Vortexx
This is a real shame, for if we had an open and frank discussion 10 years ago like we have now, we could have done some things before the problems would become so big.

yes but like you said any critic on any immigrant would have labelled you racist/facist/nazi. 1 year ago this ended with P. Fortuyn and for some reason it looks like certain groups of immigrants cause even more trouble now (seen Venlo?).

Vortexx, they never "kicked out" the Kurds. It was only more recently that they tried to occupy Kurdish land, and it still remains mostly inhabited by Kurds.

So it was only the Anatolians they kicked out. Stupid.

Let's ask a Kurds opinion about this

Yes it was recent , is my timeline moving too fast for you? 2500 kurdish villages destroyed and estimated 3 million kurds forcefully relocated / deported throughout turkey or forced to flee the country, doesn't that count as being "kicked out?", or would you prefer the term Borg assamillilation?

The remaining Kurds officially don't exist and are called "mountain turks"

Maybe we don't deserve your wisdom te be bestowred upon us, but at least it does raise the post count doesn't it?

In this forum, I have found many prejudices on the people of Turkish working class living in Western Europe, that reflect the limited point of view of the "white-superiority" theory.

Well, let me clerify/correct the following mistakes:

Theory: "Turkish youth are raised so proud that they are the potential warriors to survive and/or extent their nation. Therefore, they could be classifed as the enemy of the state".
Answer:
Racism (or fachism), to spread its political program, requires to create a fear. Well, due to the historical background and their cultural standing, Turkish people are the right choice to create such fear. Behold! Turks are coming!

Wauv! I am shaking! What a propaganda!

If you put some enmith in some place, nobody can notice what
is happening in real life. So, "Turkish the barbarian" is the wrong paradigm created by the ruler class of Europe -a kind of illusion. Fuck!

Theory: "Turhish people knocked down the Kurdish people, and exiled them from Anatolia"
Answer:
Wrong! Turkey is the combination of different cultures and races. Take Turkey as a mosaic where all cultures and people live in peace. Let's have a closer look at the cultural map of Turkey:

In European side of Turkey:

The cultures:
- Bosnians, Bulgarians, Ermenians, Jews, Turks, Gypsies, Polish people, Russians, and Greeks

In the Anatolian side of Turkey:
- Turks, Kurs, Suryani people, some French collonies, Italians (also named as Levantens), Ermenians, Arabic people, Greeks

Well, in Turkey, it's very common to see a Church next to a Mosque, and a Priest playing backgammon with an imam. So, the political belief of majority is the left wing (i.e., socialism).

So, we don't blame Kurdish people due to the war going on at the south side of the country. Because we know that we couldn't judge them because of the Kurdish terrist organization called PKK.

Regardles of their origination, all people of Turkey has the same rights and equal in front of the law. Well, one of the Prime Ministers of Turkey was Kurdish, Mr. Turgut OZAL. And there exists many Kurdish, Jew, Ermenian, and European at the Turkish Parliment. So, what's the big deal?

Before going, I have also noticed that some of the forum participants use "white" to emphasize "Western Europeans". Well, Turkish people are also white people and their looks are the same as Europeans. But, here the aim is to emphasize the superiority. What a poors guys (fachists) you are!

"In European side of Turkey:

The cultures:
- Bosnians, Bulgarians, Ermenians, Jews, Turks, Gypsies, Polish people, Russians, and Greeks "

Jews aren't Europeans. They're Semites.

And like Christians, they need to be executed if humanity is to move forward.

I'm curious as to why you would compare the Irish with African slaves. I don't think they share the same circumstances. The Irish were not uprooted from their homeland and forced into slavery. Even after slavery ended, the blacks experienced various forms of discrimination much more severe and longer than the Irish were subjected to.

You ought to read some very good historical books about white slavage. Before the blacks, the Irish were the impoverished slave-workers, and YES they were treated the same way in colonial America. The Irish however, have indeed had the same problem as Blacks getting up in income. Don't believe me? Then who are the "white trash" and "rednecks" which are downplayed as the stupid hillbillies? I think you will find that they are the remenants of white slavery... something no one nowadays wants to admit to because it takes away from the ohh horrible cruelty perspective we assign to black slavery. If it were more commonly known that it happened to whites too, then black slavery wouldn't seem nearly as horrible as it is treated.

Think of it this way: If whites were the total oppressors of blacks, who held all the economic advantage, then why do we have a white underclass at all? The white impoverished underclass should theoretically not exist, but all whites should be in the lower middle-class and higher. This is clearly not the case.

So, whites aren't treated that way anymore? Sure.... how do we reguard rednecks and hillbillies then?

Originally posted by prozak

And like Christians, they need to be executed if humanity is to move forward.

You can't ever really kill religious ideas through executions -- there will always be people that live through it only to "retaliate" a generation or two later. However, you can get rid of some of the fanatical aspects of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Bhuddism, or whatever religion by giving accessible public education. The more educated people become, the less likely they are to be dictated by their religious leaders and it gives religion less power when it goes through its corrupt moments.

Seems a very "tolerant" reply, but I think it's false. Some dogmas are just insane. Whether or not the method is to kill all of their adherents, the tolerance for them is misplaced.

Originally posted by Xevious
You ought to read some very good historical books about white slavage. Before the blacks, the Irish were the impoverished slave-workers, and YES they were treated the same way in colonial America. The Irish however, have indeed had the same problem as Blacks getting up in income. Don't believe me? Then who are the "white trash" and "rednecks" which are downplayed as the stupid hillbillies? I think you will find that they are the remenants of white slavery... something no one nowadays wants to admit to because it takes away from the ohh horrible cruelty perspective we assign to black slavery. If it were more commonly known that it happened to whites too, then black slavery wouldn't seem nearly as horrible as it is treated.

Think of it this way: If whites were the total oppressors of blacks, who held all the economic advantage, then why do we have a white underclass at all? The white impoverished underclass should theoretically not exist, but all whites should be in the lower middle-class and higher. This is clearly not the case.

So, whites aren't treated that way anymore? Sure.... how do we reguard rednecks and hillbillies then?

Excellent post.

There are white races, but perhaps no single white race.