View Full Version : Determinism is a fancy word for "power of suggestion"


Cortex_Colossus
08-10-07, 03:49 PM
Suppose you were hypnotized into believing that so and so is a part of reality, you will abide or act by it in the best manner you possibly can know. That means you can commit an insane act if you were hypnotized into perceiving the perfect "solution" to a sickening problem as a part of "reality", because to deny reality will leave you insane. Is it that "perfection" is a necessity for survival so we necessarily commit acts we perceive as perfect for some unknown problem? OR, is the source of the unknown problem the mind alone? In other words, we know that the act is evil yet we gather no other alternative within reality. If we do not commit the evil act we will exist in a world of fiction, a contradiction that leads to immediate insanity upon acceptance.
This raises the question of whether or not their is a savior to deliver us from the reality of evil. Pure determinism is merely surviving on the normal plane of reality. In order to prevent oneself from committing the evil dictated by one's "reality" (or maybe reality, but without the quotes?) one must either accept God as one's savior and then experience free will on the side of good or deny God and experience determinism on the side of evil as dictated by a reality without God, then fix some perceived problem in a way that would make one "evil" in the eyes of civilization - this would be deemed true insanity as opposed to self-perceived insanity only if God is not accepted to deliver one from the perceived problem within one's own reality - an evil reality of pure determinism and no possibility of breaking its power of suggestion to commit evil as the only escape from insanity.

Baron Max
08-10-07, 06:33 PM
Can you type that post up in English? Or at least without so many long, involved, difficult-to-understand, convoluted sentences?

Baron Max

Captain Kremmen
08-14-07, 04:54 PM
Suppose you were hypnotized into believing that so and so is a part of reality, you will abide or act by it in the best manner you possibly can know. That means you can commit an insane act if you were hypnotized into perceiving the perfect "solution" to a sickening problem as a part of "reality", because to deny reality will leave you insane. Is it that "perfection" is a necessity for survival so we necessarily commit acts we perceive as perfect for some unknown problem? OR, is the source of the unknown problem the mind alone? In other words, we know that the act is evil yet we gather no other alternative within reality. If we do not commit the evil act we will exist in a world of fiction, a contradiction that leads to immediate insanity upon acceptance.
This raises the question of whether or not their is a savior to deliver us from the reality of evil. Pure determinism is merely surviving on the normal plane of reality. In order to prevent oneself from committing the evil dictated by one's "reality" (or maybe reality, but without the quotes?) one must either accept God as one's savior and then experience free will on the side of good or deny God and experience determinism on the side of evil as dictated by a reality without God, then fix some perceived problem in a way that would make one "evil" in the eyes of civilization - this would be deemed true insanity as opposed to self-perceived insanity only if God is not accepted to deliver one from the perceived problem within one's own reality - an evil reality of pure determinism and no possibility of breaking its power of suggestion to commit evil as the only escape from insanity.

No.
If someone performs an act while imagining that they are doing good
the result may be evil , and the act itself may be an evil
but the actor is not to blame.

§outh§tar
08-14-07, 05:23 PM
You pretend as if evil is some absolute. Stop abusing language.

Captain Kremmen
08-20-07, 08:25 AM
You pretend as if evil is some absolute. Stop abusing language.

ok, I will try.

cosmictraveler
08-20-07, 10:05 AM
Suppose you were hypnotized into believing that so and so is a part of reality, you will abide or act by it in the best manner you possibly can know. That means you can commit an insane act if you were hypnotized into perceiving the perfect "solution" to a sickening problem as a part of "reality", because to deny reality will leave you insane. Is it that "perfection" is a necessity for survival so we necessarily commit acts we perceive as perfect for some unknown problem? OR, is the source of the unknown problem the mind alone? In other words, we know that the act is evil yet we gather no other alternative within reality. If we do not commit the evil act we will exist in a world of fiction, a contradiction that leads to immediate insanity upon acceptance.
This raises the question of whether or not their is a savior to deliver us from the reality of evil. Pure determinism is merely surviving on the normal plane of reality. In order to prevent oneself from committing the evil dictated by one's "reality" (or maybe reality, but without the quotes?) one must either accept God as one's savior and then experience free will on the side of good or deny God and experience determinism on the side of evil as dictated by a reality without God, then fix some perceived problem in a way that would make one "evil" in the eyes of civilization - this would be deemed true insanity as opposed to self-perceived insanity only if God is not accepted to deliver one from the perceived problem within one's own reality - an evil reality of pure determinism and no possibility of breaking its power of suggestion to commit evil as the only escape from insanity.



Like performing a Occurectomy on you? That's where they remove the cord between your eyes and asshole to remove the shitty outlook on life.