Depression

Discussion in 'Health & Fitness' started by christopher1, May 30, 2009.

  1. christopher1 Registered Member

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    In the 1950s and 60s, depression was divided into two types, endogenous and neurotic. Endogenous means that the depression comes from within the body, perhaps of genetic origin, or comes out of nowhere.

    1.A depressive disorder is a syndrome (group of symptoms) that reflects a sad and/or irritable mood exceeding normal sadness or grief.

    2.Depressive signs and symptoms are characterized not only by negative thoughts, moods, and behaviors but also by specific changes in bodily functions (for example, crying spells, body aches, low energy or libido, as well as problems with eating, weight, or sleeping).

    3.Certain people with depressive disorder, especially bipolar depression (manic depression), seem to have an inherited vulnerability to this condition.

    4.Depressive disorders are a huge public-health problem, due to its affecting millions of people.

    5.Depression is usually first identified in a primary-care setting, not in a mental health practitioner's office. Moreover, it often assumes various disguises, which causes depression to be frequently underdiagnosed.
     
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  3. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Christopher you have to ask a question or something to make a discussion. I mean you have listed what depression is. Now what? What's your point of view? Or the angle of the discussion?
     
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  5. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    christopher1 , welcome to the forums! Always nice to have a new member join us here. About your statement, how long have you had depression yourself? I've had it for many years now and found that there's help out there if you really want it. The medications are very good today to help people but the doctors need to have your input as to how they are working so they can "adjust" them to fit your own life.

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  7. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    And where does Chris indicate he suffers from depression?

    Chris don't worry about Cosmic he's just a little :crazy:
     
  8. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Aren't we all!

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  9. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Hahaha! Nice.

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    Funk seems to have been spiking lately, triggered by the season and cloudy, cool weather and general and personal economic trouble.

    Three cashiers made overcharging mistakes in the last few days. Two at two separate hardware stores made the same one.
     
  11. Joe_Billi Registered Member

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    One thing that might be helpful is a supplement I personally have started taking called 5-HTP(5-Hydroxytryptophan). 5-HTP is suppose to increase serotonin levels and thus improve mood, surpress appetite and aid in sleep. Personally, after taking it (along with good diet and exercise) have never felt better. There was a scare of 5-HTP causing eosinophilia myalgia syndrome, but that was (supposedly) caused by a contaminated batch in the 80's. Hope this helps!
     
  12. chimpkin C'mon, get happy! Registered Senior Member

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    From what I remember reading on it, 5htp stacks up comparably with prescription antidepressants in a clinical trial in Europe...

    I can go rummage if anyone's really curious...But 5htp is a serotonin precursor. Converts easily into serotonin.

    Which means, mixing it with serotonin reuptake inhibitors (like Prozac) can cause some unfun side effects....
    Like serotonin poisoning...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin_syndrome
     
  13. Stoniphi obscurely fossiliferous Valued Senior Member

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    Welcome to SciForums Joe Billi, Rose Taylor, Christopher1 and (banned) Channing. I hope that you enjoy your stay here with us....past tense with Channing.

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    Depression is a good topic, though there are several types of depression there are many tools we can use to overcome it. The motivation must first come from within the affected person, however.

    A healthy diet, regular exercise, maintaining low stress levels and getting enough sleep provide a strong base against the onset of depressive symptoms. Spending a couple of hours outdoors every day in a natural or semi - natural setting is also effective as is spending some time under very bright lights. The green of plants resonates within our visual cortex as does bright light. Both of these improve our mood as they stimulate our gray matter. Self - talk is also very helpful as is self - appreciation.

    Nowadays we seem to go for the meds first to deal with our problems while disregarding our basic physical needs. This is unfortunate and not cost - effective.
     
  14. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    If a member starts a thread without a question, but instead quotes some authorities on the subject (going back to the days when I was just a little fraggle and cigarettes were good fer ya), it's a reasonable assumption that he believes he is suffering from it and is wondering how to mitigate it.

    Note that he has, tellingly, not checked in to disabuse us of this notion.
     
  15. keith1 Guest

    I'm all for not even allowing dispensing of psychological home remedies and non-clinical medical advice. It cuts down on the "they killed themselves after reading off the internet" litigation.**
    Having said that:

    Quiet (or noisy whining) sadness over missed opportunity, spilled milk, loss of employment, plain boredom, stress--without the daily or weekly thoughts of suicide--does not necessarily denote depression. Blue can be just blue.

    **I'd go substantiate this in the site rules, but I can't easily find them:bawl:

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  16. Stoniphi obscurely fossiliferous Valued Senior Member

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    Do you remember those "9 out of 10 doctors smoke Camels." ads? I can't believe they actually ran those on tv!

    'Course then you had to switch to menthols if you got a cold or the flu.....:bugeye:
     
  17. chimpkin C'mon, get happy! Registered Senior Member

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    I don't misrepresent myself as anything, I'm just a nutter...that having been said I first got symptoms of clinical depression in 1983. I have experience at living with nuttiness.
    (This and $1.50 will get me a cuppa coffee, but hey...)
    Anyway...would Sciforums, or any one of us, be potentially liable for someone doing something because we said "Hey, this works for me?"
    I mean, we're not physicians, and if anyone asks me, I will tell them they ought to see a shrink.
     
  18. keith1 Guest

    Yes, you're right, and I agree. My shrink said that I'm not depressed, but things are better. I'm coming to grips with the bouts of chronic dissatisfaction.
     

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