Depression

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by notme2000, Dec 30, 2002.

  1. notme2000 The Art Of Fact Registered Senior Member

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    Just wondering how many sciforums members have dealt with severe depression and/or anxiety issues. I've heard depressed people tend to be very deep and philosophical, especially after they get out of the depression.

    I myself suffered from depression for 7 years, and severe anxiety for the last year of it. I am out now, but have only been for 2 months. Longest ever, but I'm still on shaky ground. For me the trick was to realize I was as good as anyone else. May sound trivial, but it was hard for me to completely realize.

    Feel free to share your stories, or give advice, or whatever. I just suspect many members here probably fought some pretty tough personal battles in their lives.
     
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  3. susan Registered Senior Member

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    me

    I have been out of depression for about 4 months now.
    I was very dangerously depressed for about 8 months.

    I feel 'deep' I suppose, always on guard for life/death issues.
     
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  5. zanket Human Valued Senior Member

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    That’s a great realization.

    One thing that’s helped me is to know that the world is actually immensely beautiful and elegant when seen from a certain perspective. A book that helped me realize that is Way of the Peaceful Warrior.
     
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  7. moonman Registered Senior Member

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    I've been depressed for the past 2-3 years myself.
    My grades have been rock-bottom, I've been failing tests and I don't consider myself as a complete idiot. Among other things.

    I didn't realize it untill this very month when I began meditating on a daily basis, life came as a revelation in some sense.
    It's still revealing itself.

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    I'd like to think I'm on my way out of it.
     
  8. Joeman Eviiiiiiiil Clown Registered Senior Member

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    I have been having chronic depression for a long time. The problem is that I don't even have time to get depressed. I have to suck it up and keep going because I have too much to do. As the result of that, I am under a lot of stress as well.

    My depression has improved quite a bit since I broke up with my girlfriend. The break up plus stop hanging with some of my friends who I don't care too much for allow me to focus more on my career and my goal. I am less depressed when I have less people to deal with.
     
  9. moonman Registered Senior Member

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    I always figure life doesn't matter. If it all goes to hell I can always move to China and become a Daoist monk.
     
  10. notme2000 The Art Of Fact Registered Senior Member

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    Joeman,
    For me it was the complete oposite. Work was beginning to become my life, but it offered nothing of real substance. So I'm changing jobs. The one I had was night shifts so that for 5 days straight I had no human contact except through work, and I never saw sunlight. I'm gettin full time days now. My motto is mental health comes first. No matter what.

    The reason I think depression makes you deep, or at least the way it went for me, is that after going through so much pain and anguish, you're no longer willing to settle for an average life. After all that you want to know the "meaning to life". After seeing the extreme of depression you realize how powerful life can be, so you try to see the positive side of that power... I dunno, that's how it worked for me.
     
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  11. Joeman Eviiiiiiiil Clown Registered Senior Member

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    What kind of job are you talking about? Try having a career. Try getting as much education as you can.

    Work IS my life for now, but that will change soon. Right now work makes me forget thing, but more importantly I intend to pile up as much money as I can so that I can stop working for awhile. I am thinking about moving overseas or going back to school, or going to school overseas. Just try something different.

    You have to ask yourself what cause the pain and anguish? You should be able to give some specific reasons, but there are more general reasons for that. Many people try looking for an answer for thousands of years. The answer might already be there. You just have to do some research.
     
  12. notme2000 The Art Of Fact Registered Senior Member

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    I do not want a career. At all. But that's just me. I want to live a humble life. Don't plan on making much money at all. Just enough to get by somewhat comfortably. Most of my time will be spent on the important things in life, or at least what I find important. Not money.
    You ask this question to get out of depression. Which I have done AND found the answer. But now I want more out of life than this triviality, so I ask another question, what's the point? Why did I bother getting out of depression? I want something out of this life, and I'm not gunna stop until I get it.
     
  13. tormented Registered Member

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    I've been tormented and abused and to all 3 hells and back all my life...Life to me had been nothing but depression..I've muted my lips because I am not 'normal' like the rest...I used to pray for death..yearn it even at times....

    Lately somethings changed...I decided it came to the point of life or death...no more in between...either end it and be out of my misery..or god damn it..take life for all it has...!!!

    Yeah...depression makes you deep...as deep as the wounds....

    I now am on a quest...a quest to find out what the fuck I'm doing here and why I've survived the shit I have...There MUST be a reason...the answer I'm not sure of yet...

    What is life and love about..?? You need to find what makes you truly happy...and I don't mean sex-drugs-or rock-n-roll...I mean...where does your treasure lay..find your heart and find your soul..spirit too I guess and examine them closely...Something brings each of us peace...

    Latch on for all you have within you and don't let go....Life throws you around that's it job....

    Your's is to stay in the game and win....
     
  14. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Work is no cure for clinical depression, neither is reading cheerful books or Buddhist philosophy. The only treatment there is is psychotropic medication such as MAO inhibitors (Wellbutrin) or serotonin-reuptake enhancers (Jamamine, I believe).

    Existential ennui, that is not depression. Clinical depression should be treated by a psychiatrist, existential bleakness....well, you find a way to deal with it, let me know.

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  15. Bebelina kospla.com Valued Senior Member

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    Speaking from experience?
     
  16. notme2000 The Art Of Fact Registered Senior Member

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    Xev,
    Very good point. I should have been specific. I am a firm believer than if you are chemically depressed, medication is worth a shot. I see no moral problem with it. Many say that's the easy way and that it's cheating. These people don't know what they're talking about. What if it's the ONLY way out?
     
  17. Bebelina kospla.com Valued Senior Member

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    And it's new years eve everybody, so be happy! Just do it! It's an order!

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  18. tormented Registered Member

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    Xev...work helps keep your hands and mind busy.....

    Being throw in a padded room doesn't help..believe me..shrinks SUCK..padded rooms let you scream but create a world of lonliness...

    Shrinks pat their ego and think they help but can never take away the experiences....Nightmares live on...

    I've done drugs...shot,sniff,smoke,ate..you name it...Not the way..Although right now I'm down to just a few demons..

    I speak from experience..Been there got the T-shirt..
     
  19. tormented Registered Member

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    It's all in the will and want to survive....

    Each have walked thru their own hell..

    Each must find their own way out...
     
  20. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Bebelina:

    Yes, to an extent. I've been treated for clinical depression with various drugs and light therapy, but that was more a way of lining a shrink's pockets than anything else. When I turned 15 and left home, I stopped cold turkey and not a thing changed.

    That is, until I began finding my answers in philosophy.

    Anyways, I think that confusing the two does no good and much harm. I never really dealt with my problems until I realized they weren't a simple matter of chemical imbalence, and I'm sure that a lot of people are making the opposite mistake.
     
  21. Bebelina kospla.com Valued Senior Member

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    I'm glad you found your answers. It must have been rough to be on your own at 15.
     
  22. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Bebe:

    Oh I've hardly found answers, the more I learn, the more I realize I don't know shit. I think that I'll become Enlightened when I accept this emotionally.

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  23. Joeman Eviiiiiiiil Clown Registered Senior Member

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    Using chemicals to solve your problem is like punting on first down.
     

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