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coluber
11-19-04, 09:40 PM
Im sorry if this is not the right place to ask this.... but can anyone give me a clear straight forward explanation of Mally's Deontic Logic. Keeping in mind that i'm... well slow. Also, i just stumbled on it randomly, so i have no back ground once so ever. I understand if it's not possible... Either way it tickled my fancy, and i would be very grateful if someone would explain it to me. :confused:

Also please don’t be so base as to make fun of my non existing sentence structure and pathetic grammar. I know it’s tempting, but please don’t. :)

Crunchy Cat
11-19-04, 11:17 PM
Im sorry if this is not the right place to ask this.... but can anyone give me a clear straight forward explanation of Mally's Deontic Logic. Keeping in mind that i'm... well slow. Also, i just stumbled on it randomly, so i have no back ground once so ever. I understand if it's not possible... Either way it tickled my fancy, and i would be very grateful if someone would explain it to me. :confused:

Also please don’t be so base as to make fun of my non existing sentence structure and pathetic grammar. I know it’s tempting, but please don’t. :)

I took a look at some resources on the net on the subject and while I am
certainly not an expert in this area my 'surface' take on Mally's Deontic Logic
is that it's a way to represent a person's 'state of interpretation' and predict
what morally-driven decisions could be made from that state.

coluber
11-20-04, 02:20 PM
can you go a bit more indepth with 'state of interpretation' ?

Crunchy Cat
11-20-04, 07:53 PM
can you go a bit more indepth with 'state of interpretation' ?

Sure,

Lets say that within the course of 10 seconds you witness the
following events:

* The room you are in grows very cold and so dark that you cannot see.
* A gunshot is heard very nearby.
* You hear a *thud*.
* The room's temperature and lighting is restored.
* You see yellow liquid on the wall.
* FREEZE your thoughts here!

At the moment your thoughts were frozen, you had an interpretation in
your mind about what just transpired. This frozen moment of thought is
a 'state of interpretation'. Does this make sense?

coluber
11-21-04, 03:17 PM
what are the formulas im a bit lost there

Crunchy Cat
11-21-04, 05:19 PM
what are the formulas im a bit lost there

Can't really help with that unless I were to become competent in
representing and predicting with that language. I suspect to achieve
such competence it would take at least two weeks of dedicated all-day
study and practice. Sorry, but I would consider this to be a very rare
competency... I am not even sure it would be used outside of a classroom
for that matter.

coluber
11-22-04, 03:03 PM
can you teach me :p

Crunchy Cat
11-22-04, 03:12 PM
can you teach me :p

Possibly. It would mean a 2-week time investment on my part to become
competent with it, and if it's really that important then I could be swayed
to act as a consultant and educator for it. Of course, I would recommend
finding someone whom has taught the subject before (I am sure such
people can be found from online resources). My costs would be as follows
if you're interested:

2 week study period (this is where I learn the language full-time): $8000
3 days to prepare coursework (full-time): $2400
3 weeks to teach the subject (full-time; I would expect 8-5 class attendance + homework): $12,000
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Total cost: $22,400 USD

Let me know if you would like to proceed.

Thanks,

-CC

coluber
11-25-04, 08:57 PM
hmmm tempting but no... i've lost interest in this topic already very short attention span, i'm the epitome of a bourgeois.

Crunchy Cat
11-25-04, 11:55 PM
hmmm tempting but no... i've lost interest in this topic already very short attention span, i'm the epitome of a bourgeois.

Not sure that 'middle class' and a short attention span are related; however,
please let me know if you change your mind.

coluber
11-28-04, 11:52 AM
Bourgeois at times is used to describe a person that dabbles in many different things and is really good at none of them. It's really an insulting term that was often used by Marxists and bohemians. I really aught to have used bourgeoise as I am female, but you rarely see that in English.

Crunchy Cat
11-28-04, 03:50 PM
Bourgeois at times is used to describe a person that dabbles in many different things and is really good at none of them. It's really an insulting term that was often used by Marxists and bohemians. I really aught to have used bourgeoise as I am female, but you rarely see that in English.

Ahh, I see. Thanks for the explanation. 'Jack of all trades, but master of
nothing' :).

firdroirich
11-29-04, 12:25 AM
It reminded me of the "trust" classes used in the Window$ NT domain authentication, which are explained by microsoft something like
this (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/plan/network.mspx#EGAA)