Democrats to win by divide and conquer?

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  1. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    "... Conservative Christine O'Donnell pulled off a stunning upset over nine-term Rep. Mike Castle in the Republican Senate primary in Delaware Tuesday, propelled by tea party activists into a November showdown with Democrat Chris Coons. After a primary season shaped by economic pain and exasperated voters, the grass-roots, anti-establishment movement can claim wins in at least seven GOP Senate races, a handful of Republican gubernatorial contests and dozens of House primary campaigns, and it influenced many others. ..."

    "... The Delaware outcome reflected the energy and enthusiasm of the tea partiers, but O'Donnell also enters the race against Coons as an underdog, putting GOP control of the Senate further out of reach. Former George W. Bush political adviser Karl Rove told Fox News Channel, "This is not a race we're going to be able to win."..."

    First line of the article is: "Its tea time in America"

    Quote from: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100915/ap_on_el_ge/us_primary_rdp

    Where more details of other Tea Party victories over regular Republicans are told.
     
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  3. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    This is why I long ago predicted this was going to be much less bloody for the Democrats than what everyone believed. Republicans have a bunch of radical right wing extremists on tickets around the country and even senior Republicans like Carl Rove (george II's brain) are concerned now about Republican chances of wining control back of the House and Senate.

    I think the right wing extremist are now causing their creators some legitimate concern. If on the off chance that this extremist slate gets elected, that raises another problem for Republican officials. They cannot solve the nations problems and will in fact make the nations problems worse, if they allow the Tea Partiers to chart the agenda. So they would then loose in 2012. Republicans have a problem.
     
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  5. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    Here is first paragraph of Bloomberg's coverage:

    "... Tea Party-backed Christine O’Donnell defeated a veteran lawmaker for the Republican U.S. Senate nomination in Delaware,
    an upset analysts said would increase Democratic chances of holding the seat and retaining control of the chamber in November. ..."

    From: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-...te-race-increases-chance-of-democrat-win.html

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    She looks like Palin, I think, but she can not see Russia from Delaware so may not be well versed in international problems.
     
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  7. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    All because Mccain picked palin, congragulations you old fart, you killed your party by splitting it in two.
     
  8. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    it was only a matter of time before the party started to disinigrate
     
  9. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    When the right-wing party begins a transition to become just another left-wing party, you can expect the conservatives within that party to go their own way. That's what's happening here.

    The GOP is killing itself and is expecting its followers to drink the same big-government Kool-Aid rather than find a better party.
     
  10. smokinglizard Registered Senior Member

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    Possibly, bot probably not. When it comes time for the general election, the tea partiers and the rank-and-file Republicans will all vote for whoever the Republican nominee is.

    Now if the nominee is a tea party candidate, he may alienate independents, but then again he may attract independents, as independents often like "outsiders" and "underdogs."

    We'll see.
     
  11. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    >Democrats to win by divide and conquer?

    That would be giant historical justice for 2000...
     
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  12. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Well you see this is the problem, the Republican Party is the minority party. And a sliver of the minority party is exercising power not dictated by its size and voting power.

    And you are right, we shall see.
     
  13. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    left wing??? the republican party is becoming more right wing and so is the democrats we don't really have a true left wing party.
     
  14. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    I am not sure what is "left wing" but note that the Libertarian Party is the third largest in the US. It, but not as much as the Tea Party, has internal conflicts, especially over abortion. Read more about it at:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_Party_(United_States)
     
  15. smokinglizard Registered Senior Member

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    Just admit it -- you guys fear the Tea Party!
     
  16. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Yep, joe and the left are in full panic mode......so are the RINOs, they took a beating at the poles, and a power shift is on the way.

    Add to that;

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...-campaign-war-chest-gets-a-boost/#more-122736


    Now, despite the skepticism many Republicans expressed as the election results came in Tuesday night – (one Republican official told CNN the Republican party would be slow to give any money to O'Donnnell) – she is enjoying an influx of support from prominent Republican leaders.

    Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele told CNN Wednesday that he has instructed his staff to devote resources and money to help O'Donnell's campaign.

    Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell also said he would support and donate money to O'Donnell. And National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Cornyn pledged $42,000 – the maximum amount the NRSC can give – on O'Donnell's behalf.

    Former Gov. Mitt Romney – and potential 2012 presidential candidate – also announced that his Free and Strong America PAC would be sending O'Donnell a $5,000 contribution.
     
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  17. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Yep I do fear the Tea Party. Because if they ever get any power and do what they say they will do, they will crash the economy again. Now I hope Americans are still sane enough to not let that happen. But anything is possible.

    They have a perfect right to be pissed about what has happened in Washington under the bush II administration. But shooting your right leg off because you shot your left leg off, is not the solution.
     
  18. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I don't think you can blame McCain. The Republicans wanted to appeal to the conservative Christian demographic - in particular evangelicals like Buffalo Roam. So they selected Palin. As it turns out, BR and his friends want an even more crazy and conservative Republican party.
     
  19. smokinglizard Registered Senior Member

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    Uhhh...what? I was under the impression that they're much more pissed off about what's happening in Washington under the current administration! Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's pretty much where the Tea Party movement stemmed from, right?
     
  20. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Well as I understand it, they are against Washington. They don't like the deficit spending. The don't like the level of the national debt. They don't like auto industry bailout. They don't like the financial industry bailout.

    Those are all george II initatives/programs. The 2009 budget was signed into law by george II. The current administration signed its first budget in the fall of 2009So almost all of the deficit spending they are upset about occured under Republican leadership....george II more specifically.

    They don't like big government or entitlement programs, george II and his merry band of Republicans were responsible for the largest expansion of entitlement programs since Medicare was created.

    So it appears to me that if Tea Partiers are serious about their claims, they should be more upset with the previous administration than this administration - if they are serious about their claims.
     
  21. John99 Banned Banned

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    Not everyone who doesnt agree with someone else is an extremist.

    Consider this scenario:

    person 1: i like chocolate cake,

    person 2: i dont like chocolate cake, i like the marble cake (or some kind of other cake)

    person 1: oh, you F'ng extremist.

    Do you see any problems here?
     
  22. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    I've been saying this for years on this forum. It's all about divide and conquer. As I mentioned before, Sarah Palin and the Tea-Party wing of the GOP is the best thing to ever happen to Barack Obama. There's no way that any of the establishment GOP candidates will make it out of the Presidential Primary. Do you actually think Mitt Romeny can win any Primaries in the Red States? Nope, the base is going to vote for Palin. And once she ends up being the GOP Presidential Candidate there's no way she'll defeat Barack in a National Election.

    I'm all for the Tea Party.
     
  23. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    True, who said otherwise?
     

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