Title says it all. What causes this?? I recently just experienced deja vu' again, and it piqued my curiosity about it. Any and all comments/theories accepted. AmishRakeFight
I think this has been discussed at some forum here. One theory is that the mind gets slightly confused while processing current data for storage in memory, and the individudal thinks he is rememboering instead of storing the data. Note that data initially gets sotored in some temorary short tem memeory prior to be put into long term memory. I think it also gets put into some form of short term memory when recalled for use in current thought processes. At any reate, it is gnerally not considered to be due to some mystical process. or previous knowledge of the scene which seems so familiar. I always wonered if it was related to a feeling one sometimes has in sports situations. At various times, the world seemed to be slowed down relative to me for a few seconds. When this happened, I always was sucessful at the sports activity at hand. Friends of mine, particularly baseball players, have said they had this experience. The pitched ball seems to moving in slow motion and they feel as though they have all the time they need to hit it. I suspect that this slow motion experience is a faulty memory of what actually happened. If it were not, I am convinced I (and others) would be able to repeat it more often.
basically what my psychology teacher and others have said, it's a memory issue. Your brain messes up and instead of putting the memory as a short-term memory, it puts it as the long-term memory... which makes you think you've done it before. "Her current conclusion is that déjà vu is merely the brain pulsing at an exponential rate which causes a person to recall something he or she saw the moment before." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deja_vu
Isn't the whole time slowing down experience due to adrenaline? What about when you know what's going to happen before it happens, I suppose that's more pre-cognition, but you just suddenly remember, and then it all happens as you remembered.
Me and my friends in the Rainbow Tree Society once said that it was when yourself in two different dimensions crossed paths. The experience disorients ones self slightly, but allows a greater perspective of the situation: the slowing of time. When I get Deja Vu, i always test it. I try to play along with the notions in my head. Most of the time, they come true. Good shit, huh
Lil Light Foot: Might your last name be Lightfoot? A friend from long ago was named Clark Lightfoot. He was caucasian, but the family name was due to a native American ancestor. You posted. I experienced enhanced reflexes, strength, et cetera due to adrenaline many times. This is an experience known to almost all athletes who are seriously competitive. Most learn to control it because you cannot use the extra boost continuously. The adrenaline boost is not the cause of the feeling I tried to describe. This feeling was so awesome that I am convinced it was some distorted memory of what actually occurred. I have some friends who reported similar experiences. We agreed that the extreme time slowdown was not real, although all else about the memories were close to what actually happened. It is interesting the the time slowdown is never associated with an unsuccessfull effort. It might be related to deja vu, which is believed to be some error in memory processing. Deja vu has been described as the erroneous belief that you are remembering when you are actually storing current events in memory. I suspect that my slowdown experience was an erroneous memory of what had just occurred. Unlike other memories of successful sports activities, I was never able to vividly recall these anomalous events an hour or two later, while I was often able to recall other events. I do not believe that deja vu is anything mystical. I also do not believe claims of precognitive abilities.
I am just trying to look for scientific explanations for things that seem to happen, it is just a bizarre experience when you know what's going to happen before it does, there has to be some explanation for it. It can't be faulty memory storage, as you know it's going to happen moments before it actually occurs, it can't be anything like, I don't know, angelic abilities or something. I would put it down to the brain just putting together likely outcomes and getting it right, like a complex computer betting what will happen, a quantum computer? (I'm probably wrong on the quantum computer thing) but what're the chances of that? I suppose, perhaps, pre-cog could be due to the predicting the future via past experiences and the chances of such experiences occuring once more, and the reason pre-cog (in my own recent experience anyway) has been occuring more frequently, is due to my brain getting better at judging the correct outcomes. Does that make sense? Lil light foot is a name derived from my beliefs, I am caucasian, and have an interest in native americans and their beliefs, but I think that's about as far as it goes.
I've answered this before, it is basically a memory issue; it shows the associate nature of sensory input (particularly of the eyes) transcription to the physiological states of memory and recall. I first experienced "strong Deja Vu" at the age of 8, and many times since. How this works in persons who have always been blind or those who became blind, I'm not sure- if there is even enough information collected. Deja Vu isn't a phenomenon that can be easily tested in uniform conditions; thus it is still something of a mystery. I've answered this before, it is ... [weird!]
It doesn't. Deja vu is french for "already seen". Blind people can't see, therefore they can't have deja vus. Although there are other kinds of deja __'s, which I guess they CAN have.
I have to agree with you in that regard, Mr. Wolf. Awesome post. It makes sense, but I simply left the door open. =) ... About other "Deja __'s": As a lifelong musician (started with guitar at 3, piano lessons at 5, choir at 6, on and on) I began "hearing noises" in my head at an early age; much of which directed my songwriting. The first original composition I recited publicly was in front the congragation of my parent's church at age 8, and by the time I was 15 two of three original songs submitted to a national songwirting contest went to (but lost) in semi-finals selections. (No, I'm not "famous," but I am still an active composer and performer locally; just offering this as background to help frame further assessments) There is a disorder called "synthesesia" which I'm convinced explains some of what I've heard "in the noise" which resulted in many of over 300 songs I've written. Now, the first "deja vu" I had was at age 8 in the summer of 1974 while "looking at" the cover of a Sears Fall Catalog in my bedroom, but I have had auditory instances where I would be running scales or practicing or what not- and was seemingly "prompted by awareness of the moment" and out pops a melody with that same "wierd feeling" (the first I recall was later that same fall, making me 9 years old); a few bars of such a melody repeating then prompts changes and permutations which lead to full compositions. One piece of famous music I can point to as this "process unfolding" which ties this "melody, moment and permutation" together is Beethoven's 9th Symphony, particularly the Second Movement (coincedently called a "scherzo" it is more like "schizo" in the slang meaning, thus the correlation to synthesesia). Though this specific work by Beethoven might not "resonate" with everyone here, I still say it stands out as demonstrating the process of "moment and permutation" rather than simply the "meter, theme and variation" one finds in more ordinary compositions. Which even if we disagree that this work in particular demonstrates anything extraordinary, I still advance for consideration that this "synthesesia" phenomenon I refer to might be fairly common to artists and musicians. ... My point being, that the same physiological and psychological factors which are at work with deja vu, and deja ___, have at their core a sensory-memory-confabulation. A permutation of "now" which one would swear had "happened before" but was not cognitively predicted. Trippy~ Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
oh yeah, synesthesia is interesting. I think I used to have a little bit of synesthesia when I was little because I remember seeing colors for certain things. For example, I had the whole week color coded. Tuesdays were dark greek, wednesdays were lighter green, I saturdays were white, etc. I don't remember now but I had a color for every day, and other stuff. huh? I don't see the connection. Deja __'s are feelings you've experienced something before synesthesia is the mixing of the senses, seeing sounds (words, etc), seeing feelings (like pain), etc. and schizophrenia is being paranoid and stuff... Maybe you're confusing it with multiple personality dissorder/dissasociative personality disorder (same thing although the latter is a more modern term)? it is.
"scherzo" (from italian "scherzare": a joke), in music, means to play a passage with liveliness; "schizo" is ofcourse slang for schizophrenia (any of the dissociative psychotic disorders); synesthesia, though not a dissociative disorder in the strict meaning, has that characteristic. Thanks for the corrections! I was supposing that the coincedence of "scherzo" and "schizo" was merely amusing, not profound. The relevance of synesthesia being neural "misfires"... synaptic misdirections... could help explain deja __'s perhaps. Cheers
I just wanna share something. Well it up to you if u wanna believe it. Its a thoery I created called "Key and Gate" theory. What is it? Well, lets put it this way. The human mind is like a partially opened door... in my opinion. Its potential unknown and knows no boundaries. This is the ultimate weapon of the human and yet is ignored. Going back on the theory. There are many ways of unlocking those mysteries of the mind. There are what you call intrinsic and extrinsic elements. Intrinsic are those that are found within us. Extrinsic, those around us. Now,in Deja Vu the triggers / keys to activate the phenomenon are both intrinsic and extrinsic. First one has to consider the involvement of chemicals such as hormones present which influence body function (especially those in the CNS) in the body secondly the direct effect of activity which elicits different reactions in the body ( referring to emotions). Practically both are related. However, (based on experience) the potential to opent the "gate" increases as the body is in a state of crisis (referring to stress) since this is the time when the body highly is activated/stimulated. Thus it is in full function. Specifically for Deja Vu, the phenomen can be classified as post-crisis event. Why? Simple, by the time all the 5 faculties of sense (meaning the consciuos part of the mind) are offline (sleep) the other faculties (sub-consciuos) are substituting the functions of the senses. The mind places itself in a different sitaution usually of a situation that has crossed the consciuos part of its self. Thus we dream of sitautions which are brought about by the questions if only? why? how? when? where? feasible? and others related to the meaning of reality. As the mind reflects on this situations it creates a corresponding wave-length of energy. Now, going to physics. We all now a wave going against a another wave in the opposite direction with equal force cancels each other. However, if there were 2 waves of equal energy and wavelength in the same direction, those two waves become one greater wave. Now, we also now that as or brain functions it continously produces these energy waves which of course lies dependent on th activity performed. In a sleeping state the brain emits the most stable of energy-waves. However, the wave emitted can be changed by different triggers. These is were the crossing-over is possible. Whats this? It is the chance possibility of energy-wave produced at time A to meet the its equal energy-wave (in time Z). Theoretically time Z does not exist yet but has yet to come or materialize. But how is it possible for time A to co-join with time Z due to the equal wavelength and direction. ( Take note: it is only possible to cross-over IF AND ONLY the brain emmits at that point of time - TIME A - the equal of wave-length and direction to TIME Z in a point of an infinite.) The result? DEJA VU. Thus the senses being in equality in two different time zones see what lies in the other zone ( in short the future). So here is my absurd explanation. However I have been able to forcefully synthesize the phenemenon in a chance percentage of only 2%. It is however, impossible to completely control the phenomenon due to unstability of the human mind. Due to intrinsic and extrinsic factors that I have earlier stated. Absurd? its up to you to figure it out. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
