Death Metal, the Illuminati, and blood sacrifice

Discussion in 'Art & Culture' started by duendy, Nov 24, 2005.

  1. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    Have just wached a really really disturbing documentary called Death etal Murders http://www.bbc.co.uk/ThisWorld

    SHIT! it is about his death metal group who get into atanic occultic activityand savagely kill a series of people, including a mmber of teir group and a groupie
    we see te bands perform with deadpig heads....singers growlig yrics of rape and murder and of killing chrstians and vitms being merely animated marionettes......really horrific pictures on CD covers, cannailism. crowds all shoing the hand gesture of the forefinger and little finge raised meaning Satanic worship......uggggggghhhhhh! gruesome

    the Illuminati wasn't meantion at all. but we know that teir sign to ech other is also tat hand gesture.

    both do blood sacrifice to Satan who tey equate wih Satan

    it is love of horror isn't it?......it was a ecstaic communal thing agaoing on yeah. but there was no deep erotic feel about it. just ugly looking faces creaming obscenities and how tey love blood and filth ad rape and torture and sacrifice to Satan

    no wondere it is allowed. the Illumianti elite must be over te fukin moon. bet they secretly fund it

    imagined watching it finding myself in te midst of it trippin on shrooms. it would BE hell wouldn't it?...or at least--not like Concentration amp hell. but likean ENTRANCE
     
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  3. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    i know...typos, but also meant to say 'they equate Satan with Lucifer.....i mean that the Illuminati follow a Luciferian philosophy which is commensurate wit Satanism
     
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  5. DarkThorn Registered Senior Member

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    I just watched the very same programme and ended up having a very heated debate with my girlfriend about it all.

    Children should be educated about what satanism really is aswell as christianity and other religions.

    The bands can not be held to account for what these uneducated fools go out and do but to be fair they should market the music more carefully. To be honest i hate death metal not because of this but i just can't listen to it. It is not art, simply a group of men screaming about blood, guts, rape, torture, fuck, fuck, fuck my cross. It has no meaning other than it seems to represent to me the darkest thoughts we all have but don't scream in peoples faces.
     
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  7. Killjoy Propelling The Farce!! Valued Senior Member

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    errr...

    Thank goodness you cleared that up.

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    I think it's far more likely there are just a lot of idiots in the world who lap up the sort of crap these people produce because the thought that they can somehow tap into a secret source of "mystical power" or whatever makes them feel that their pitiful lives are not indeed meaningless.
    Otherwise, these so-called "musicians" could fart out all the nonsense they cared to, and the end result would be a collective yawn of boredom as people got on with something more interesting.

    You know, Ben Franklin was in the Illuminati...
    That's how he managed to set up the first series of franchised print shops in the 13 colonies. Low-interest loans from his pals in the "Secret Sect of the Eyeball", as he glibly referred to them.
    I'm sure they didn't appreciate his witicisms, but after surviving the lightning strike brought on by flying his kite into thunderheads, he had proven himself invincible, and hence they dared not move against him.

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  8. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    when i was a youngkid--say to the age of bout 9, i wasinto fairy books. my fave book i was reading--when most kids had gone onto Janet an John books---this is goin back a bit hehe, but you know kids bpoks jut about young kiddie adventure type stuff--i was reading The Magic Chair. about this ..err magic chair which takes the sitter to all tese faerydimensions

    THEn about 10 onwars i startted getting into Pan Horror boks. major change hey? soon grew ot of it to. mainly dude to LSDexperiences at 15 where i gorokked into magical Nature again

    when i seen tose youths and older people..in that docu. i could in a way identify wit tem. i imagined in i was in teir generation and had graduated from Pan Horror to the Pig Fukin Foetus Eaters, or som such charming band

    I feel that we are suppressedd by this culture. who here will admit/agree wit me? notmany will. oppression means oppression of ecstasy. not te drug'Ecstasy' as such, but te actual feeling of ecstatic expression........i am exploring that that stuff on that docu is showing how when suppressed it can STICK in a distorted mode where sensuality is left out. by sensuality i mean --an openess to sensuality, where there is no desire to rape and harm your partner(s) ...yet can also be wild too.......tat shit on that prg was just hate hate hate. the isa way to beee wild witout wallowing in the Cradle of Filth
     
  9. shaman_ Registered Senior Member

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    Satanic bands don't necessarily have anything to do with the Illuminati.
     
  10. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    No, he was a Freemason.
     
  11. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Actually, the hand gesture in question, mano cornuto is for warding off evil, specifically "The Evil Eye".

    As the alleged symbol of the Illuminati is the 'All Seeing Eye' these symbols don't sit well together.
     
  12. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    here is the 'difference' between freemasons and the Illuminati. in the Lodges many do charity work and believe they are being good litte freemasons....BUT, tey are relly just dupes on te lor rungs of the pyramid hierarchy. not being told what is going on in te top--ie., where the Illuminati art at/

    nuthin new. do solidiers KNOW what thier superiors have planned for them? do you think if they deeply KNEW tey would join up?? well?

    and shaman. explain more why satanic groups aren't connected withthe Illuminati? how do you mean? and, do yo have any friends into death metal?
     
  13. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    We've had that assertion from you before duendy, but it has one fatal flaw, that the Masons existed long before 'The Illuminati' and that the latter based their rituals and organisation on the former.
     
  14. shaman_ Registered Senior Member

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    I don't directly know anyone who is into it but I know the type. From what I have seen the illuminati is not part of their motivation.

    Are you saying that the connection is there because of the horns symbol?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corna

    I see every second teenager do that at the music festivals I go to.
     
  15. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    am wondering what you mean by 'fatal flaw'......? what does it UNDO?
    isn't it besides to point who came first? te fact is the Illuminati are the top dogs and many freemasons have no clue what they are a part of.

    i am curious phlo ....where is yor sorce of information?
     
  16. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    have seen pics of Bush nd Clinto do it...and Blair posing like Aleister Crowley--anothe Illuminist--for photos

    IF you think i mean that many of te fans of death metal who alsoo pracitce the occult are AWAREof their practices being linked with Illuminati, maybe not, but i bet the Illuminati poeple love whats going on!
     
  17. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    It undoes your entire premise, that's what. The masons existed centuries before "The Illuminati". It is a matter of record that the Illuminati copied masonic ritual in an attempt to become more popular. It is a mattter of record that the membership of "The Illuminati' was always small, and is now inconsequential.

    Ha! That's rich, coming from you? You make statements about a romanticised group subverting a fairly covert one, without a shred of evidence, and have the gall to ask me for source when I challenge you on your assertions!

    Care to make comment on the 'mano cornuto'? I thought you knew your 'occult symbolism' but that assertion of yours was a rather schoolboy error!

    Face it, your opinions are are products of your paranoid, fetid imagination, not facts.
     
  18. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    mr Gradgrind the second wit his facts ('mr Gradgrind' was a character from a Charles Dicken's novel , Hard Times'--he represents th materialistic attitude of te hard cruel and unfeeling Industrial Revolution!)
     
  19. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    duendy, substantiate your claims (as you made yours first) please!

    You always do this, make a claim, without any substantiation whatsoever, and when called on it, ask for evidence that it isn't true!

    What's 'mano cornuto'? Are you serious? This from the person who is allegedly knowledgeable on 'occult symbolism'???? That is just too funny for words! Just shows as always duendy, you're talking out of your hat.

    On a different topic, How much do you get on disability allowance these days?
     
  20. Killjoy Propelling The Farce!! Valued Senior Member

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    LoL

    I know.

    I was being silly.

    Or did he really survive a lightning strike while flying that dad-blamed kite ???

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  21. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    oh your telepathic as well?....wooooo will have to careful of dyu!
    dont mess to close now tho y'haer. cause i got my mo jo wokin!
     
  22. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Duendy, it's you making unsubstantiated claims about the Illuminati. So list a source.

    On 'occult symbolism', well, you inferred you knew about it when you took a tangent on a different thread. You mentioned it several times, further implying it was a topic of significance to you. Turns out though, that you are ignorant of the very basics of the subject! You have been undone.

    Numerology is big in Judaism, (Gematria) btw, and is not occult, it is rather more to do with mysticism.

    So how much is disability duendy?
     
  23. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    you are a presumptious cheeky sod...i knows that much
     

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