I'm just wondering, who here listens to Death and Black metal? I know I'm not the only one...

Favorite band?
I adore Sadist (Tommy Talamanca is fucking God!), Slayer, Therion, some Rotting Christ....well, too many to count.

I'm not into much DM, but I like Black Metal:

Limbonic Art, Mayhem, Dissection, Darkthrone...


I don't like Cradle of Filth.

Slayers cool but rather when they dont play deathmetal .

Ever heard of Undisputed Attitude ?

Blackmetal ........ yukkie

Gotta make this fast, but...

The guy I'm rooming with here considers Slayer to be pop-metal. I'm engrossed in the hardest motherfucking metal imaginable. Some of the softer stuff is wicked, and I can appreciate some of the ridiculous stuff. I find Slayer to be an ice middle ground.

Anyway, I went to a local metal show here the other night. You people - metalheads - are a fucked up bunch.

METAL RULEZ!!!!!!!!

Right now I mainly listen to Children of Bodom and In Flames coz they compose guitar symphonies. The most beautiful guitar rifs and solos I've ever heard.
Also: Rhapsody (not exactly death, but very melodic medieval metal)
Behemoth, Dimmu Borgir, Cannibal Corpse, Dying Fetus...

I may be seeing In Flames tonight.



Check out Bane. Not the hardcore band. There's an extreme death metal band called Bane. Look for them. SICK FUCKERS!

Also check out Sublime Cadaveric Decomposition. Some of the most fucked up grind I've heard.

Tyler:
I find Slayer to be an ice middle ground.

Slayer is pretty much straight up thrash. I wouldn't go so far as calling it "pop" - it's nice and pretty easy listening, but also decent for headbanging.

plasticwingsmelting:
I don't like Cradle of Filth.

I like everything up to Midian. After that they lost something. Now they just sound like Dimmu Borgir.

I like Dimmu, but Dimmu and CoF are turning into pop.

Cannibal Corpse WAS good. Their ex-drummer Corpsegrinder broke away and started Six Feet Under - whom I'd consider much superiour.

In Flames is good, but to me a bit too standard. Nice though - Jester Race and Whoracle were rather nice ear candy albums.

I may be seeing In Flames tonight.

Wow dude. Where are they performing?

I'm never sure whether you're supposed to take the whole Death Metal/Black Metal/Goth thing seriously. I mean as far as I can tell the only people who did were the Columbine Corpses.

So I don't take this stuff any more seriously than I did Black Sabbath and Blue Oyster Cult 30 years ago. I just enjoy listening to it, pretty much for the same reasons, whatever those are.

I don't know what even counts as part of the genre. Do the bands themselves have to take themselves seriously to be considered here? Marilyn Manson? Type O Negative? The only rock and rollers that I ever thought genuinely took themselves seriously were the original punk bands and they were such awful musicians that you had to believe in what they were saying just as much as they did to be able to stand it.

Sisters of Mercy take themselves pretty seriously, are they deathly enough? "Hey now, hey now now, sing this corrosion to me." Hypnotic, my wife can listen to that one for an hour.

But my favorite is a band that I'm sure you'll laugh at if you've even heard of them: Drain sth , all-girl Goth from Sweden. They've got the lyrics about leeches and necrophilia and people who've lost their free will and all that icky stuff. They have a great 21st-century "infrared noise" sound a la Korn, and the slightly eerie Swedish accents make it all seem so authentic. But they just can't be serious. Their latest album "Freaks of Nature" is such a damn slick production that it makes Marilyn Manson sound like a garage band. You can almost see the guys with cigars standing off to one side counting CD sales.

So that's my vote as long as I don't have to believe in the stuff like it was a cult. It's just Ace of Base does AC/DC.

Cannibal Corpse WAS good. Their ex-drummer Corpsegrinder broke away and started Six Feet Under - whom I'd consider much superiour.



Cannibal Corpse is funny. Just read their lyrics.

And Corpsegrinder is their NEW singer. They kicked their old singer out because he's a pussy and HE started Six Feet Under. As for their drummer...I'm not sure but I think they've had the same lineup for years now.


Six Feet Under eats ass. Just ask The Black Dahlia Murder.

Drummer, singer, whatever, I'm not a huge fan. Cannibal Corpse is a fucking joke.

On the subject of In Flames, i saw them the other night with Soilwork =)

In Flames newer stuff sucks shite. Sorry, but the only good In Flames I've heard was old, and it did kick ass.

Kyuss!!!!

Cannibal Corpse makes me laugh

Considering that they write things like:
"Deranged by my deviance savage goal to maim and kill
Obsessed with my cruelty, vicious ways for me to die
Sado-masochistic rage, horrific daze, reality
Pleasure from sadistic intent, driven by my lust for pain
Punishment my way of life, suffering intensifies
Sacrifice
Brutal frenzy, no control, perverse actions gratify
Wretched abnormality, condoning inhumanity
Suicide
Carnivorous abusiveness, boiling sawn-off testicles"

yes....I can definitely see the humour value. Dying Fetus kicks their ass.

That said, they are innovative and technically skilled. Gwar is better for a laugh - how can you match "Fishfuck"? - but CC is good.

I personally like "Fucked with a Knife" and "Addicted to Vaginal Skin"

What kind of a loser gets bitter and writes misogynistic shit like Cannibal Corpse does? They're a ripoff of a band and mediocre as individuals. Send 'em to the ovens.

I like this death/black metal site:

http://www.anus.com/metal/

;)

I would not classify Slayer as "thrash" but as "speed metal."

I find black metal to be the most advanced form of metal, but recommend related death metal bands such as At the Gates, Therion, Demilich, Cadaver, Dismember, Atheist, Capharnaum, Gorefest and Unleashed...

Xev's recommendations above are quite reasonable.

For black metal, avoid Cradle of Filth; they're not black metal (they're heavy metal). Similarly avoid Children of Bodom.

Try these:

1. Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse
2. Darkthrone - Transylvanian Hunger
3. Burzum - Filosofem
4. Graveland - Following the Voice of Blood
5. Absurd - Asgardsrei
6. Immortal - Pure Holocaust
7. Ohtar - The Empire of White Power
8. Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
9. Dimmu Borgir - Stormblast
10. Belial - Gods of the Pit Part II

Ignore the internet kiddies with the latest recombinant bands.

Originally posted by Xev


1 - Slayer is pretty much straight up thrash. I wouldn't go so far as calling it "pop" - it's nice and pretty easy listening, but also decent for headbanging.

2 - I like Dimmu, but Dimmu and CoF are turning into pop.

3 - Cannibal Corpse WAS good. Their ex-drummer Corpsegrinder broke away and started Six Feet Under - whom I'd consider much superiour.

4 - In Flames is good, but to me a bit too standard. Nice though - Jester Race and Whoracle were rather nice ear candy albums.

1 - Slayer is a hybrid of Discharge and Angel Witch. I'd call 'em speed metal.

2 - COF always has been pop; Dimmu turned with Enthrone Darkness Triumphant, wouldn't you say?

3 - Try Cianide instead of SFU. Or Asphyx. SFU and CC are a ripoff (CC = Suffocation + Morpheus Descends + Malevolent Creation ripoff).

4 - You want Dissection, Sacramentum and early Sentenced instead.

PS Xev if you haven't heard "Beyond Sanctorum" from Therion... it's worthy.

Christian Sodomy:
1 - Slayer is a hybrid of Discharge and Angel Witch. I'd call 'em speed metal.

Speed metal works. Slayer isn't thrash in the way that Sodom (whom I'd call the essence of thrash) is thrash.

2 - COF always has been pop; Dimmu turned with Enthrone Darkness Triumphant, wouldn't you say?

CoF was good pop, I will give them that. "Midian" is a good album even if COF has always been something of an act - they take themselves way too fucking seriously.

I'd say Enthrone Darkness is the album that "made it big" for Dimmu. Yes, they turned right here.

Don't mistake me - it's a good fucking album. But it's good pop-metal, not good metal metal.

Children of Bodom just strikes me as a COF/Dimmu like band. I'm not qualified to say this - I haven't heard much by them - but there's just something too standard about them.

Try Cianide instead of SFU. Or Asphyx. SFU and CC are a ripoff (CC = Suffocation + Morpheus Descends + Malevolent Creation ripoff).

CC is just...the "sex, blood, sadism ad infinitum" shit is annoying after a while.
Christ, I could just snip random words out of ob-gyn texts, throw in synonyms for "sanguinary" and have CC lyrics.

Beyond Sanctorum is fucking beautiful. Vovin is another album I'd recommend.

Emporer is a good recommend. I'd throw in some Bathory - Bathory's Viking phase is quintessential Viking metal. Try "Blood, Fire, Death" and "Blood on Ice", "The Return" is an excellent album, and "Destroyer of Worlds" is quite decent.

Graveland is another fucking excellent BM band that sometimes verges on Viking (more properly Nordic) metal. "In the Glare of Burning Churches" and "Thousand Swords" are excellent albums to start with.

Ulver is worth a mention "Eight Hymns to the Wolf in Man" is quite passable.

Old Man's Child is something of a decent band, even if standard. "Born Of The Flickering" is quite good.

Celtic Frost deserves a mention, even if I never got into them that much. "To Mega Therion" and their last album (whose name I've forgotten) is more than decent.

I like this death/black metal site:
http://www.anus.com/metal/

We have another poster (prozak) who writes for them, I believe. I haven't seen prozak around recently though.

Originally posted by Xev


1 - Speed metal works. Slayer isn't thrash in the way that Sodom (whom I'd call the essence of thrash) is thrash.

2 - CoF was good pop, I will give them that. "Midian" is a good album even if COF has always been something of an act - they take themselves way too fucking seriously.

3 - I'd say Enthrone Darkness is the album that "made it big" for Dimmu. Yes, they turned right here.

....it's good pop-metal, not good metal metal.

4 - Children of Bodom just strikes me as a COF/Dimmu like band. I'm not qualified to say this - I haven't heard much by them - but there's just something too standard about them.

5 - CC is just...the "sex, blood, sadism ad infinitum" shit is annoying after a while.
Christ, I could just snip random words out of ob-gyn texts, throw in synonyms for "sanguinary" and have CC lyrics.

6 - Beyond Sanctorum is fucking beautiful. Vovin is another album I'd recommend.

7 - Emporer is a good recommend. I'd throw in some Bathory - Bathory's Viking phase is quintessential Viking metal. Try "Blood, Fire, Death" and "Blood on Ice", "The Return" is an excellent album, and "Destroyer of Worlds" is quite decent.

8 - Graveland is another fucking excellent BM band that sometimes verges on Viking (more properly Nordic) metal. "In the Glare of Burning Churches" and "Thousand Swords" are excellent albums to start with.

9 - Ulver is worth a mention "Eight Hymns to the Wolf in Man" is quite passable.

10 - Old Man's Child is something of a decent band, even if standard. "Born Of The Flickering" is quite good.

11 - Celtic Frost deserves a mention, even if I never got into them that much. "To Mega Therion" and their last album (whose name I've forgotten) is more than decent.

1 - Agreed. Sodom is in my view thrash-inspired if nothing else. Cryptic Slaughter's "Convicted" has just been re-released (www.relapse.com) and is for me definitive of thrash.

2 - Yeah. A maiden clone, and not a bad one. Technically speaking they seem to know their instruments.

3 - Coincidentally, the album is musically much closer to rock/heavy metal than blackmetal.

4 - Agreed.

5 - Early Carcass did those lyrics much better; they were funny and didn't bleed weakness. I have nothing good to say about CC.

6 - Agreed on Beyond Sanctorum; I wimped out on later Therion (too public/rock).

7 - Agreed; also, listen to Bathory's "The Return" and Sepultura's "Morbid Visions" and then remind everyone in the room those were from 1984-85.

8 - Agreed, although I'd recommend "The Celtic Winter" as their best.

9 - I have reservations about this band that are hard to articulate; see #4.

Have you heard Enslaved "Vikinglgr Veldi"?

10 - From the first generation of rock/heavy metal trained bands to tackle black metal; if you like this, seek out Troll (I'm not kidding about the name) also.

11 - True, although Hellhammer is perhaps my favorite work of theirs.

Summoning?
Throne of Ahaz?

You might like Immortal "Blizzard Beasts."

The user named You_Killed_Jesus knows a lot about this style of music also. Have you heard his band? It's in progress toward something with quite a bit of potential.

What kind of a loser gets bitter and writes misogynistic shit like Cannibal Corpse does? They're a ripoff of a band and mediocre as individuals. Send 'em to the ovens.

My problem with CC's lyrics isn't simply that it's the misogynistic drivel of some boy who was told to keep it in his pants one too many times.
Ala Eminem or *spit* Guns and Roses. (Hair metal was such a fucking joke. I can't believe this shit is still around).

It's that it's a fucking gimmick. CC is a marketing ploy. Amusing to listen to once in a while, but not worth buying an album, even used.

Christian Sodomy:
1: Sodom is fucking excellent. On an unrelated note, have you heard Master's unreleased '85 album? It looks rather interesting.

2: A Maiden clone, and a good one. I like Maiden more for the associations (some of the first metal I listened to) than for the music itself, which became stadium rock after a while.

Summoning - I know only their newest, "Let Mortal Heroes Sing your flame". I rather enjoy it.
Immortal is amazing. I don't know Throne of Ahaz.

The user named You_Killed_Jesus knows a lot about this style of music also. Have you heard his band? It's in progress toward something with quite a bit of potential

I haven't heard his band. He seems to spend more time in Politics. I'll rarely venture there - Allah's Maths and his clones rather set the tone, and I can't stand to hear about the middle east. The sooner that region is nuked off the face of the earth, the better.

Originally posted by Xev
My problem with CC's lyrics isn't simply that it's the misogynistic drivel of some boy who was told to keep it in his pants one too many times.

CC is a marketing ploy. Amusing to listen to once in a while, but not worth buying an album, even used.

Their first two albums were legitimate death metal, but not exciting or really unique. Then I think they got bitter, and sold out in a hideous way... I consider them more sold out than Metallica. In essence, we're in agreement. I do not moralize their stance on women, but it doesn't belong in metal - metal has specifically distanced itself from that approach to the gender question.

Originally posted by Xev

1: Sodom is fucking excellent. On an unrelated note, have you heard Master's unreleased '85 album? It looks rather interesting.

2: A Maiden clone, and a good one. I like Maiden more for the associations (some of the first metal I listened to) than for the music itself, which became stadium rock after a while.

3 -Summoning - I know only their newest, "Let Mortal Heroes Sing your flame". I rather enjoy it.

4 - Immortal is amazing. I don't know Throne of Ahaz.

5 - I haven't heard his band. He seems to spend more time in Politics. I'll rarely venture there - Allah's Maths and his clones rather set the tone, and I can't stand to hear about the middle east. The sooner that region is nuked off the face of the earth, the better.

1 - I haven't heard that Master CD but I have the Deathstrike CD, which is Master from the same time period; the Master '85 CD is apparently assembled from multiple sessions. Master is excellent. Catch them on tour if you can.

There's a tour review in Heidenlarm #1

2 - I listen to old Maiden, selectively, and love it, then set it aside for six months.

3 - I recommend Dol Guldur and Nightshade Forests (EP)

4 - Throne of Ahaz is melodic metal, similar to Immortal but more like the twisted rhythms of Gorgoroth (another excellent band).

5 - Here's his band:

http://www.rockindonkey.com/gorewar/

Some excellent melodic black metal from Texas:

http://www.aversesefira.com/

http://bahimiron.cjb.net/

Right now I mainly listen to Children of Bodom and In Flames coz they compose guitar symphonies. The most beautiful guitar rifs and solos I've ever heard.
Also: Rhapsody (not exactly death, but very melodic medieval metal)
Behemoth, Dimmu Borgir, Cannibal Corpse, Dying Fetus...


YEAH, YOU ARE TRVE KVLT NOW.

In Flames- An overly melodic take on 80s Iron Maiden/At The Gates-style metal that had incredible potential but only gave it 2%. They reached their height of creativity in 'Subterranean' with the emotionally gripping 'Stand Ablaze'. From here they produced the beautifully melodic masterpeice 'Jester Race', which is one of my favorite melodic-DM albums. Unfortunately this album's strict verse-chourse song structures foreshadowed their tendencies to move away from symphonic melodic-metal to bland universalist pop garbage. 'Whoracle' was a pathetic follow-up which attempted to grip the intensity of 'Jester Race' through slower-paced songs and allusions to previous riffs from past albums (for fucks's sake, they cover a Depeche Mode song! :mad: . From here I lost interest in them all together. I downloaded 'Reroute To Remain' for the sake of it, and discovered they have degenerated into some sort of horrible chugging punk-style band that no longer even applies as melodic. FUCK IN FLAMES!

Dimmu Borgir- Other than Stormblast, these Jews have nothing to offer. If Euronymous were alive today he would probably sick his dogs upon them for liberalising and capitalising metal.

Cannibal Corpse- I would agree with Xstian Sodomy that CC was legitimate DM in their first two outings. But they really brought nothing new to the table and seem like a sad Suffocation rip-off. 'Tomb of the Mutilated' was blatantly commercial and relied on retarded perverse Geinish fantasies and a spot in 'Ace Ventura' to gain support. After that it got worse, with their 'experimental' album, the Bleeding (which I felt fit into no genre of metal, being a psychotic mish mash of jazz-like chaos.) From Vile and then on, they threw away traditional DM for straight foward masturbatory 'loud rock'.

-Dying Fetus- A parody of a parody. Why are they even popular?

I don't really like Dying Fetus. "Raped on the Altar" is a cool song, though.


Malevolent Creation is just...pissed off.

What do NSYNC and Darkthrone have in common?

Five guys that make little pre-teen preppy girls cry

Darkthrone is a sacred word, and should never be mentioned in the same sentence with other lowly words.

Fuck Dradle Of Filth
Fuck Dark Jewneral
Fuck Dimmu Burger
Fuck false DM
Fuck false BM

www.anus.com

oh come on that was funny

Sigh, there's always this fuck false BM, fuck false DM... each band has their own unique style... whether or not it's pop, well, that's up to you. I do admit that Dimmu, CoB, IF, CoF, and various others are 'changing their sound', but they're still not exactly pop so to say. They are more like "we have a lot of money and we're evil, so listen to us" type of sound. Personally, I'm very disappointed in how bands change so drastically in just a few years, but that's me. I mean, In Flames was my favorite band a few years back, now they're just not putting much effort into their music. Right now, I'm big on bands like Amon Amarth, Mithotyn, Marduk, Katatonia, Opeth, Menhir, Nokturnal Mortum, etc. I have a shitload of underground DM and BM on my computer, thanks to mIRC.

Oh Yeah, and by the way, Alexander Kuoppala from Children of Bodom left the band yesterday. Good or bad?

Opeth made it onto the Billboard without changing their sound..


Good or bad?

Alexi is talented, but lacks the taste to apply his talent.

Opeth changed their sound before they started. They could have been a death metal band, but preferred to be a rock band instead.

Only Demilich, Ildjarn, Ohtar and Belial are real!

Originally posted by Christian Sodomy
[BOpeth changed their sound before they started. They could have been a death metal band, but preferred to be a rock band instead.
! [/B]

Opeth isn't a rock band.. they're a progressive death metal band. Their melodies build up within the whole song. Mikael is probably one of the best death metal vocalists of all time.

Originally posted by -iLluSiON-
Opeth isn't a rock band.. they're a progressive death metal band. Their melodies build up within the whole song. Mikael is probably one of the best death metal vocalists of all time.

They're a rock band. They do not compose as a death metal band would. I was not impressed by that which I heard from them.

Edge of Sanity sucks, too. But I like Pan-Thy-Monium ;)

Illusion:
Opeth isn't a rock band.. they're a progressive death metal band. Their melodies build up within the whole song. Mikael is probably one of the best death metal vocalists of all time.

Opeth is rock with metal leanings. They're...okay.

I do admit that Dimmu, CoB, IF, CoF, and various others are 'changing their sound', but they're still not exactly pop so to say. They are more like "we have a lot of money and we're evil, so listen to us" type of sound. Personally, I'm very disappointed in how bands change so drastically in just a few years, but that's me.

Really? I don't mind it when they change. It's when the change is for the worse - or they don't change and stick to the same fucking formula - that I mind.
CoF has always been like that.

I like deicide and cannible corpse,although deicides new stuff is shit,the legion album from deicide now thats what i call a proper death/black metal album.

On deicides original album there the song called deicide
,wicked song,wicked lyrics:

No lord shall stand before myself
I can strike the light and see through the truth
For I'm the Deicide, Dominus, what could you do
Thou has failed you now, once again and always will
On the cross, forgotten son, a sacrifice it had to be done

Died for me, well that's too bad I don't believe
Killed by sins of the evil what I am
Your destruction, reasons of a world in pain
Blind disciple, you will never live again

Wage of death, course of life
Unsematic birth of the Deicide
Eyes of pain, pleads of death
As you're put to rest

Three days to rise
If he lives again he is sure to die
I killed Jesus
Just to see him bleed on his pulpis throne
I am evil
I'm the Deicide and I killed the Lord
No more reasons
I will kill the world in another form

I rule this world

NAIL HIM

I can strike the light and see through the truth
For I'm the Deicide, Dominus, what could you do
Thou has failed you now, once again and always will
On the cross, forgotten son, a sacrifice it had to be done

Died for me, well that's too bad I don't believe
Killed by sins of the evil what I am
Your destruction, reasons of a world in pain
Blind disciple, you will never live again.



That kicks ass,they just really hate christianity with a severe vengence.

[/B][/QUOTE] Opeth is rock with metal leanings. They're...okay.

They're not traidtional hardcore, gorish death metal, and they're certainly not a rock band. They write their guitar compositions with harmonies overlapping one another and tend to lean towards minor keys. There really is never a 'happy' Opeth song so to say, there all somewhat dark in manner. They shouldn't really be classified into any catergory really, they are just... Opeth.

Anyways, about the other thing, that's what I was implying. I hate when bands change their sound to appease a wider audience --- specifically for the worse. Again, In Flames is going to come into play here. They don't even show their folkish roots one bit like they used to. Yea, they changed their sound, but why couldn't they at least use their folkish elements and add to that idea with better mixing and recording? <br>
Let's take Emperor for example, their music style never really changed, it only progressed... for the better I might add. Their newer stuff is pretty much the same old Emperor, but with more tracks going on at once and more chaos behind the music. Another band is Dark Tranquillity. They took their old sound, progressed it (although experimented with their Haven album), and now are producing better quality, crisp, Gothenburg Melodic Metal. Both these bands changed their sound somewhat, but for the good. In Flames on the other hand just isn't what they should be. Mainly, I think it's beacuse of Anders, the vocalist.

I would love to talk to you about all these underground black metal bands, but instead I mentioned the more widely known ones. Let's try to see if any of you really are into this catergory of music, and list some underground black/death metal bands that you know about.

Darkthrone
Mayhem
Dissection


Three of my favorites

REGARDING OPETH: Opeth is talented, but their songs convey nothing. Their music is not progressive, it is novelty rock. Think about it: each song is 10 minutes long, yet can be broken down into 50 different irregular contradicting tracks. Why? None of these 'solos' have a unified theme, so technically it is not a whole song. Their 'folkish' elements are nothing to jump for, and their riffs are recycled from television themes.

DRADLE OF FILTH: Again, we find novelty metal. There is no message conveyed, no political statement, no unified sound (thus the constant changing.) The music amounts to Judaic construction: idealogical confusion, no unified goal, masturbatory music for the sake of music.

Let's take Emperor for example, their music style never really changed, it only progressed... for the better I might add. Their newer stuff is pretty much the same old Emperor, but with more tracks going on at once and more chaos behind the music.

Don't even try to justify the regression of Emperor. I admit that Prometheus was enjoyable and very thought provoking, but to say they got 'better' is insanity. It's like comparing a Wagnerian Opera to Andrea Borcelli. Andrea=powerful, emotional voice, laced with a decadent, cosmopolitan musical score that leaves you empty and clueless in the end. Let's just say Emperor reached the height of their creative output, but soon found they were too empty to apply any intensity to the sound.

In Flames on the other hand just isn't what they should be. Mainly, I think it's beacuse of Anders, the vocalist.

I would agree, as I said before, they were on the course to truly deep music, but soon got wrapped up in trivial lyrics, lack of a goal, and commercialized music that resembles 80s cock rock rather than melodic death metal. Better alternatives: At The Gates (The Red In The Sky Is Ours), and Dark Tranquility.


Sigh, there's always this fuck false BM, fuck false DM... each band has their own unique style... whether or not it's pop, well, that's up to you.

Yeah, because it's all about making universalist, egalitarian, SAFE music that five year olds can listen to. James Cameron is NOT Beethoven, just as Cradle of Filth is NOT Emperor, Enshade is NOT Burzum. Nokturnal Mortum does not like you. Being ELITE is important, you know why?: Because near the close of the 20th century, music became socialized. When was the last time someone spun Stravinsky in your car? When was the last time you went to the bar and saw Scott Joplin there? I rest my case.

When was the last time someone spun Stravinsky in your car?

3 days ago.
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There's no sense in arguing about this. It's been done hundreds of times before. It's all opinion. You have yours, I have mine, and everyone else has theirs. To keep the thread active, let's list some bands for others to discover and listen to.

Midvinter (black metal) <br>
Nokturnal Mortum (black metal from Ukraine) <br>
Ahriman (very unique black metal) <br>
Astarte (black metal)
Celestia (black metal from Poland or Russia I believe?) <br>
Athiest (jazzy death metal, a very good listen) <br>
Haggard (classical music with death metal vocals mixed in, very interesting. from germany) <br>
Drautran (black metal) <br>
Cadacross (British pop rock/blackmetal) <br>
Falkenbach (one man project, produces viking orientated black metal) <br>
Lilitu (dark metal from Georgia, US) <br>
Luciferion (one cd out in '94; death metal band from Sweden. Very good.) <br>
Manegarm (viking/folk black metal from sweden. one of my favourite bands) <br>
Menhir (german pagan metal, a good listen) <br>
Mithotyn (viking metal, has 3 cds, one of my favorite norse bands) <br>
Sabbat (Japanese black metal) <br>
Deviser (Greek black metal) <br>
Rakoth (Russian black metal) <br>
The Berzerker (austrailian grindcore/death. very good) <br>
Taake (very good black metal) <br>
Skyfire (swedish metal, very heavy on keyboards. good listen) <br>

there's a lot more...

At The Gates...


I just cannot get into Slaughter of the Soul. It's too refined, I guess. I absolutely LOVE "With Fear I Kiss.."


That CD gets played over and over...

all these same bands getting spewed forth again and not a single person mentions Cephalic Carnage? im not a death metal or black metal junkie but technically cephalic carnage is badass.

Cephalic Carnage is garbage. IMO ;)

Atheist is good. The rest of illusion's list was crap, except Luciferion which is OK to good depending on how much you wanted to hear a Swedish Deicide.

Truly inspired metal:

1. Massacra - Final Holocaust
2. Bathory - Blood, Fire, Death
3. Graveland - The Celtic Winter
4. Burzum - Filosofem
5. Incantation - Onward to Golgotha
6. Darkthrone - Under a Funeral Moon

Is it raining there too?

I used to like Slayer, Suffocation, Deeds of Flesh, etc a lot more but now I'm kind of burnt on the explosive percussion rhetoric. It's sort of a 1991 paradigm.

Yeah, we should get Prozak in here, he would set you guys straight.

Has anyone heard of Juelkjioa? They sound like Wagner but ten times faster, played on a distorted guitar, with the sound of a dog in a blender for a vocalist. They are extremely moving in their sound, but there is virtually nothing about them considering they are trying to capture the arcane mystique of early black metal. I don't even know what country they are from or what language that is. The production is fairly clear and dare I say their sytle is NOT human. I downloaded one of their songs from some guy who mysteriously appeared in a chat room, it was entitled 'No Need of Scallion-Wates'. Fucked up alien music.

Originally posted by plasticwingsmelting
I just cannot get into Slaughter of the Soul. It's too refined, I guess. I absolutely LOVE "With Fear I Kiss.."


SOTS is very 1980s, really bluesy, in contrast to their other stuff which had many influences and was more progressive. SOTS is them using their technique and sound on you, but earlier albums had composition. TRITSiO, WFIKTBD, GoG, TSD, even the Grotesque and Oxiplegatz albums.

Atheist is good. The rest of illusion's list was crap, except Luciferion which is OK to good depending on how much you wanted to hear a Swedish Deicide.

hehe, I listed mostly black metal with keyboards. You must not like that sound. Anyway, I can list a lot of death metal and technical bands if you want. I just like hearing about bands that I've never heard before.

I'm not into the keyboard stuff, much...some is ok, but otherwise...


Cephalic Carnage is pretty good, though. I've got Lucid Interval at my house.

Cephalic Carnage is very good :cool: