So having a girly discussion today, about

1. guys who like you but are unwilling to commit vs

2. guys you want to get away from but who hang on like leeches no matter what.

Questions to guys: what is the best way to deal with both these issues?:p

Just tell them what you want.. ?
Or don't want.. ;)

Just tell them what you want.. ?
Or don't want.. ;)

Er, did you read the questions?:confused:

So having a girly discussion today, about

1. guys who like you but are unwilling to commit vs

2. guys you want to get away from but who hang on like leeches no matter what.

Questions to guys: what is the best way to deal with both these issues?:p

1. Keep your eyes out for others and forget those.

2. Ignore them. They'll eventually go away.

So having a girly discussion today, about

1. guys who like you but are unwilling to commit vs

2. guys you want to get away from but who hang on like leeches no matter what.

Questions to guys: what is the best way to deal with both these issues?:p

1. If you take more than 1 year of your life with someone and they don't commit then give them an ultimatium either marry or good bye for time is short.

2. Tell the leech that you are going to get a restraining order against him to leave you alone and if he bothers you he will go to jail.

Er, did you read the questions?:confused:

Uhm.. yes ?
Although i have one question, what is vs ? Don't laugh please..

1. Keep your eyes out for others and forget those.


But if you really really like them? Really, really? :D

2. Ignore them. They'll eventually go away.

I can tell you've never had a leech on you.

C'mon guys, this is not helping, I need ammo!!!!!

Uhm.. yes ?
Although i have one question, what is vs ? Don't laugh please..

Versus (Latin: against, and often written in Italics) is used in legal and general language to mean "against" or "opposed to", as in "John Doe versus Richard Roe", and is often abbreviated to v. (with the punctuation point) or vs (without the point).

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=AhX&defl=en&q=define:Versus&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

Versus (Latin: against, and often written in Italics) is used in legal and general language to mean "against" or "opposed to", as in "John Doe versus Richard Roe", and is often abbreviated to v. (with the punctuation point) or vs (without the point).

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=AhX&defl=en&q=define:Versus&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

Thats what i thought, my answer still stands then ;)
Guys appreciate it when you are clear to them, don't play games. Although, I can only speak for myself of course.

Er, did you read the questions?:confused:

IN THOSE EXACT WORDS.

Do you regularly assume that people you meet have ESP?

violence can solve #2, offering sexual pleasure #]1.

peace.

IN THOSE EXACT WORDS.

Do you regularly assume that people you meet have ESP?

I take it that wasn't directed at me ?

Nope.

IN THOSE EXACT WORDS.

Do you regularly assume that people you meet have ESP?

No but I can tell when they are uncomprehending or obtuse. I have ESP, of course.:p

Thats what i thought, my answer still stands then ;)
Guys appreciate it when you are clear to them, don't play games. Although, I can only speak for myself of course.

*sigh*:shrug:

No but I can tell when they are uncomprehending or obtuse. I have ESP, of course.:p

I'm sorry, maybe I'm getting paranoid but how was I uncomprehending or obtuse ?

No but I can tell when they are uncomprehending or obtuse. I have ESP, of course.:p

Wouldn't that be intuition?

*sigh*:shrug:

Whats wrong with that answer ? :shrug:

I'm sorry, maybe I'm getting paranoid but how was I uncomprehending or obtuse ?

Its not paranoia if they really are out to get you. :eek:

Now focus on the blue words

So having a girly discussion today, about

1. guys who like you but are unwilling to commit vs

2. guys you want to get away from but who hang on like leeches no matter what.

Questions to guys: what is the best way to deal with both these issues?:p

Let us assume that straight talking has already been attempted and has been a miserable failure because of several undefined masculine reasons. Now wot?

Its not paranoia if they really are out to get you. :eek:

Now focus on the blue words



Let us assume that straight talking has already been attempted and has been a miserable failure because of several undefined masculine reasons. Now wot?

Shouldn't you have posted those conditions in the OP ?
Also, i don't really appreciate the "Now wot" :bugeye:

1. Forget it, unless you want to play whore.
2. Insult them in public, if necessary more than once.

There, are you happy ?

"Questions to guys: what is the best way to deal with [human leeches]?"

Is this a question for all guys, or just creepy ones? If it's in the general sense, here:

Don't be tasty to them: Simulate being a heartless bitch for a short time. Self-induced extreme flatulence may help. If still infested, simulating really bad physical and/or mental hygiene should divert them to new hosts. You know enough about behavior and biology to effectively carry out this advice. You're also creative enough to think of more ways to become less yummy for leeches.

If your motivation and not method is discovered to be the limiting factor (that is, if you haven't really tried yet, or if being undesireable makes you uncomfortable) then get to work on your motivation: Set goals. Try a small turn-off, and make it fun (for you, not the leech). Practice makes perfect.

"Questions to guys: what is the best way to deal with [human leeches]?"

Don't be tasty: Simulate being a heartless bitch for a short time. Self-induced extreme flatulence may help. If still infested, simulating really bad personal hygiene should divert them to new hosts. You know enough about behavior and biology to effectively carry out this advice. You're also creative enough to think of more ways to become less yummy for leeches.

If your motivation and not method is discovered to be the limiting factor (that is, if you haven't really tried yet) then get to work on your motivation: Set goals. Try a small turn-off, and make it fun (for you, not the leech). Practice makes perfect.

Its not me hype, I just ignore the buzzing till it recedes into the background; so what is it that makes guys realise this is never gonna happen? Besides your creative ideas (what girl would descend to these???) what would make it into a really thick skull that its not "playing hard to get"?

And you did not answer the other.:)

*faint buzzing*

what would make it into a really thick skull that its not "playing hard to get"?



Why would you spend time with these people at all?
If they're co-workers, explain that they make you uncomfortable. If they keep being creepy, document the behavior and go to HR.
If they're friends, why are you friends with them when they suck?
If they are your friend's friends, it should be fairly easy to avoid them. Also, why do your friends have loser friends?

Why would you spend time with these people at all?
If they're co-workers, explain that they make you uncomfortable. If they keep being creepy, document the behavior and go to HR.
If they're friends, why are you friends with them when they suck?
If they are your friend's friends, it should be fairly easy to avoid them. Also, why do your friends have loser friends?

I like weird people.:shrug:

Besides, I've developed an academic curiosity in the problem; my way of dealing would be

1. Wot? Who?

2. Wot? Who?

I'm one of those terribly oblivious persons.

I like weird people.:shrug:

I do too, but there's a difference between my creepy goth friend who bites people as a way of greeting them, and the pudgy IT guy who hangs around your cubicle too long trying to make small talk.

And if you're oblivious just.....keep being oblivious. Ignorance is usually best when it comes to people.

Originally Posted by Enmos
*faint buzzing*


Don't flatter yourself.. :bugeye:

Wot? Who? :D

Wot? Who? :D

Cute. Shall I play along ?

I'm so confused by this thread...

I was looking for objective ways of dealing with weirdos, guess I should not ask the weirdos. :p

.......I need ammo!!!!!

Well I hope it doesn't come to that..but just in case..I would suggest going with 12 gauge "double ought" buckshot in a 3" magnum high-brass casing. :) j/k

Seriously..
1. It really depends on age..a 20 year old that doesn't want to commit is different than a 40 year old that won't. 20 somethings can be afraid of the responsibility of marriage (and possibly kids), and may not want to give up the option of having a line in the water. Older guys might not want to commit 'cause they got burned in their first marriage...and are unwilling to risk going through it again.

2. Question..Are you talking about financial leeching or emotional leeching? Either way, I like Enmos suggestion of insulting him in public...and I'll add that you should do it in front of his friends.

So having a girly discussion today, about

1. guys who like you but are unwilling to commit
there is a difference between "like" and "love"
a guy "likes" his sister, he "loves" his girlfriend.
a guy will never commit to someone he just "likes"

vs

2. guys you want to get away from but who hang on like leeches no matter what.
two choices:
1. move
2. send the goon squad after him.
you might have to employ both options depending on how "dedicated" he is.

But if you really really like them? Really, really? :D
you could be screwed.
a guy either loves you or he doesn't.
most will know the first time they see you.
there is no "working yourself into it" with guys.

1. guys who like you but are unwilling to commitThere is no way to force a guy to commit. If he's not ready then your only choice is to settle for the kind of uncommitted relationship he wants and find a way to enjoy it, or tell him goodbye and find the kind of man you do want.2. guys you want to get away from but who hang on like leeches no matter what.Having once been one of those guys, I can tell you that from my perspective women do not communicate anywhere near as well as you think you do. You almost certainly at one time gave him a signal that you were interested. Everything you've done since then comes across as playing games. You teach us that you're hard to get, that we have to beg, that we have to make fools of ourselves, that we have to learn to endure days, weeks, months of you being in a bad mood and treating us like drenn, but if we really love you we'll stick it out and be there for you when you recover from your little snit. So you don't get to complain when it all backfires on you. :) I say you should date the guy, let him see what kind of a relationship he can have with you, that it doesn't work. Who knows, maybe you'll discover that you're wrong about him. We can all be right fools when a woman acts in a way we don't understand. He might turn out to be a really fine guy when he perceives the universe as behaving consistently.But if you really really like them? Really, really?Then you have to take a good look in the mirror and ask yourself what you want to do with your life. Do you want to waste it on pursuit of a man you can never have? Or do you want to make a tough decision, feel really miserable for a few months, then get over it and find a better man? In my observation many women decide to waste their lives for several years, and then they make the right decision. It's entirely up to you, how much of your life do you want to waste?

I have a friend who chased after a man she couldn't have for ten years, and I am not exaggerating. She eventually got her act together, but it was very late and very difficult. Now she's sixty years old and still has teenage children at home to take care of, when the rest of us are planning retirement.

Your question is really: What should I do? The answer is: You have to choose.

Fake your own death.

There is no way to force a guy to commit. If he's not ready then your only choice is to settle for the kind of uncommitted relationship he wants and find a way to enjoy it, or tell him goodbye and find the kind of man you do want.Having once been one of those guys, I can tell you that from my perspective women do not communicate anywhere near as well as you think you do. You almost certainly at one time gave him a signal that you were interested. Everything you've done since then comes across as playing games. You teach us that you're hard to get, that we have to beg, that we have to make fools of ourselves, that we have to learn to endure days, weeks, months of you being in a bad mood and treating us like drenn, but if we really love you we'll stick it out and be there for you when you recover from your little snit. So you don't get to complain when it all backfires on you. :) I say you should date the guy, let him see what kind of a relationship he can have with you, that it doesn't work. Who knows, maybe you'll discover that you're wrong about him. We can all be right fools when a woman acts in a way we don't understand. He might turn out to be a really fine guy when he perceives the universe as behaving consistently.Then you have to take a good look in the mirror and ask yourself what you want to do with your life. Do you want to waste it on pursuit of a man you can never have? Or do you want to make a tough decision, feel really miserable for a few months, then get over it and find a better man? In my observation many women decide to waste their lives for several years, and then they make the right decision. It's entirely up to you, how much of your life do you want to waste?

I have a friend who chased after a man she couldn't have for ten years, and I am not exaggerating. She eventually got her act together, but it was very late and very difficult. Now she's sixty years old and still has teenage children at home to take care of, when the rest of us are planning retirement.

Your question is really: What should I do? The answer is: You have to choose.

Thank you Fraggle Rocker, this is what I have been saying but now SAM seems to think Im a weirdo.. :shrug:
Oh well.. :rolleyes:

So having a girly discussion today, about

1. guys who like you but are unwilling to commit vs

2. guys you want to get away from but who hang on like leeches no matter what.

Questions to guys: what is the best way to deal with both these issues?:p

1. Walk away
2. Run away

an amendment:
2. Tell them you are not interested, that you are sorry you if you led them on and then run away.
Then start another thread; 'Is it possible ever to be 'just good friends' with a guy?'

So having a girly discussion today, about

1. guys who like you but are unwilling to commit vs

2. guys you want to get away from but who hang on like leeches no matter what.

Questions to guys: what is the best way to deal with both these issues?:p

focus on work.

Yeah, fake your own death. Works both ways.

Oh, and I disagree with hype about the mental hygiene thing. It really doesn't matter how crazy a chick is. If your pursuer is crazy too, he'll probably just try to make some kind of feces-covered suicide pact or something.

Hope that helps,

Geoff

oh Sam, you made this thread about me and to get my attention. I am flattered.

The easiest way to get rid of a guy is to ignore him completely, dont fall for any tricks to get your attention and even answering the phone when he calls is a mistake.

You've been phoning Sam? :eek:

You've been phoning Sam? :eek:

oh, i wish. i would give anything to hear her voice...LMFAO.

1. The truth (do not B.S him, saying casual is "ok" - you will get burned)
2. The truth (if it causes bad drama, better sooner than later.)

I do not know why some women have problems with the truth in these matters.

1. another guy. Its amazing how suddenly realizing they may lose you makes them step up to the plate. But do you really want him then?
2. women are raised to be polite and not hurt others feelings. Unfortunately this guy has to have his feelings hurt to move on.

So having a girly discussion today, about

1. guys who like you but are unwilling to commit vs

2. guys you want to get away from but who hang on like leeches no matter what.

Questions to guys: what is the best way to deal with both these issues?:p

Unfortunately, the kind of guys girls tend to like are the "alpha" males, which means they can have their pick of women, and are unlikely to commit, because they don't have to. Someday they will settle down.

My advice, marry the leech, they will be forever grateful and loyal. You will probably find them to possess many wonderful hidden qualities.

So having a girly discussion today, about

1. guys who like you but are unwilling to commit vs
Why is he unwilling to commit?
How much does he like you?

2. guys you want to get away from but who hang on like leeches no matter what.
The restraining order came through my letter box this morning - your worries are over :D

Questions to guys: what is the best way to deal with both these issues?:p
From a personal point of view:
A) throw yourself into something else and get over it
B) haven't solved that one yet - I wish I could just turn round and tell her straight to get lost, but I'm too nice. :mad:

Why is he unwilling to commit?
How much does he like you?

To which I'll add: maybe you could sit him down for a talk and tell him how much you care? After the drugs wear off, you could explain him how the sheer amount of rope you used proves how much you really love him, and then show him the wall with pictures of the two of you pasted side by side and all the telephoto stills of him sleeping or flossing his teeth.

Nothing shows devotion like effort, I always say. The worst he can say is no, or maybe work one of his hands free and dial 9-1-1.

Unfortunately, the kind of guys girls tend to like are the "alpha" males, which means they can have their pick of women, and are unlikely to commit, because they don't have to. Someday they will settle down.

My advice, marry the leech, they will be forever grateful and loyal. You will probably find them to possess many wonderful hidden qualities.

This is exactly what I said!!!:eek:

2. guys you want to get away from but who hang on like leeches no matter what.

For most guys, I think telling them the truth is enough to scare them away. At least, it is for me. However, I don't need telling because I know when I am becoming to clingy before anyone has to say a thing to me.

My advice, marry the leech, they will be forever grateful and loyal. You will probably find them to possess many wonderful hidden qualities.

My friend is like this. His girlfriend spoils the shit out of him, but he is very loyal.

However, I don't need telling because I know when I am becoming to clingy before anyone has to say a thing to me.

Rubbish, it took me ages to get rid of you.

To which I'll add: maybe you could sit him down for a talk and tell him how much you care? After the drugs wear off, you could explain him how the sheer amount of rope you used proves how much you really love him, and then show him the wall with pictures of the two of you pasted side by side and all the telephoto stills of him sleeping or flossing his teeth.

Nothing shows devotion like effort, I always say. The worst he can say is no, or maybe work one of his hands free and dial 9-1-1.

The S.A.M. does not stand for Sadism And Masochism. :bugeye:

Rubbish, it took me ages to get rid of you.

You know you want me.

Damn' rumbled again.
Why do I always fall for the fluttery eyelashes?

Are you guys tapping your feet in lewd gestures?

Are you guys tapping your feet in lewd gestures?

I already have my foot in the other stall.

How do you tap your feet in lewd gestures? :shrug:
Did I miss part of my education somewhere?
(I do not like shoes, I do not like shoes).

My advice, marry the leech, they will be forever grateful and loyal. You will probably find them to possess many wonderful hidden qualities.

Like money.

The S.A.M. does not stand for Sadism And Masochism. :bugeye:

No, no, you're just drugging him, tying him up and forcing him to stare you in the eye so that you can explain how you really, really love him and how it's so important - to his short-term survival, maybe, or just to whether or not you take the ball gag out if he promises not to scream - that he understand that so the two of you can be together forever. Nothing wierd like S&M.

I mean, unless he likes that sort of thing or something. Some people are just strange.

How do you tap your feet in lewd gestures? :shrug:
Did I miss part of my education somewhere?
(I do not like shoes, I do not like shoes).

Just the reference to the context. ;)

Don't Wear Tap Shoes in the Men's Room...
by playwrite27 @ 28/08/2007 - 00:29:39

A Senator from Idaho was arrested recently for misconduct at a Minnesota airport.

Apparently, he was suspected of "lewd conduct" while in the men's room. This same senator has been accused in the past, of having a homosexual affair, which the married senator hotly denied--his closet door, it seems, is firmly closed.

Apparently, a airport police officer was...erm..doing his business in the stall next to the senator, when he noticed the senator "tapping his foot." It seems, that foot-tapping in a men's room stall, is "code" for wanting sex (with the person in the next stall).

(She raises her eyebrow) Ey???

Well...you learn new things everyday. The lesson: If you're a straight guy? Don't wear tap shoes in a men's room.

http://oldmaid.blog.co.uk/2007/08/28/don_t_wear_tap_shoes_in_the_men_s_room~2881706

Thusly:

I already have my foot in the other stall.

Hmm I sort of twigged after seeing Absane's post.
And it did bring back memories of when I was younger and slightly more naive: back then I just thought the guys had St Vitus' Dance or something...
Live and learn... :)

New metaphor:

"One foot in the other stall."

Called it. Too late. All mine.

:yawn:

The difference between a rut and a grave is merely the depth.

Hmm I sort of twigged after seeing Absane's post.
And it did bring back memories of when I was younger and slightly more naive: back then I just thought the guys had St Vitus' Dance or something...
Live and learn... :)

You're a tweeker, Oli?
Oh my .

Nope: just naive and wondered what the problem was with the guy in the next cubicle when I used public conveniences...
Never occurred to me until Absane's post (35 years later) that was what it was...

I'm still confused, though.

About what?
Hey ask me anything - I wouldn't keep secrets from my date, would I?

Nevermind. Your cubicle dude was gay and it was a code for sex.
I thought he was coming off crystal and couldn't sit still.


Oh, and we're going to a new bar tomorrow to see a local band.

Nevermind. Your cubicle dude was gay and it was a code for sex.
Yup. But I didn't know, just thought he had motor-control problems.
Now the guy that slipped a note under the door... :eek: I stayed in there for hours 'til I was sure he'd gone. Very young in those days.

I thought he was coming off crystal and couldn't sit still.
Hell, I didn't even know what crystal was back then...

Nice: good band?
Seen 'em before?
I have a Miss Whiplash night at the gay club this weekend:rolleyes:
Last night for one of my lesbian friends' fiancée's trip to the UK so we're going out "in style"

Thank you Fraggle Rocker, this is what I have been saying but now SAM seems to think Im a weirdo. Oh well.That's just her way of expressing her feminine charm. Don't be fooled. She really likes you. Try phoning her, or just follow her home. :)

That's just her way of expressing her feminine charm. Don't be fooled. She really likes you. Try phoning her, or just follow her home. :)

lol, right..

Oli:

Some sort of jam band, not bad, but I fell asleep during their set. I can really only appreciate that sort of thing whilst stoned.