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Wisdom_Seeker
08-13-07, 09:24 AM
Hi folks, I just got a set of crystals for my personal purpose of energy healing, and I was wondering if some of you out there got some tips on cleansing and energizing crystals...

cosmictraveler
08-13-07, 09:31 AM
Bend over....pull your butt cheeks apart wide...insert...that will energize em and they won't need cleaning plus they will heal everything from the inside out! :D

Wisdom_Seeker
08-13-07, 10:22 AM
Bend over....pull your butt cheeks apart wide...insert...that will energize em and they won't need cleaning plus they will everything from the inside out! :D

Anybody else whos cleansing doesn´t involve the total mutilation of your anus?

Wisdom_Seeker
08-13-07, 10:23 AM
I will just go with the tips on books and the internet, but I was wondering if somebody out here have some experience with this stuff...

Stryder
08-13-07, 11:04 AM
Lets see, you ask a forums known for people trying to think scientifically (at the very least) for their experiences with 'Crystal energy/healing/cleansing' and you expect a rational answer?

I'm tempted to be as bad as the rest of the posters and utter the words 'woo-woo', however doing so isn't the right course of action, the right course of action is to dissect the myth over crystals having any special properties at all.

It is a fact Crystals have a Resonance frequency, this is why Quartz is used in a number of methods to keep timing (famously in Quartz watches)

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/quartz-watch.htm

Have a read through it, since after all it is scientifically interesting.

This merely suggests that Crystals have harmonic values that require certain conditions to be met to make them resonate (i.e. The right type of lighting, the right radio frequency etc) It is possible that they can have some therapeutic function however if that is so, then there is obviously a more scientific reason than just mere "We're woo-woo's and like playing with rocks/crystals" mentality.

For instance in Cancer treatment certain wavelengths are used to attempt to breakdown cancer cells during Radio therapy, perhaps such crystals with the right light/frequency can generate some form of interruption frequency to stop things like cancer being created in the first place... who knows? (Well only those that actually get round to scientifically trying to quantify it as a possibility or falsehood.)

Wisdom_Seeker
08-13-07, 11:33 AM
I know this may sound weird to many folks, but I find energy healing a quite interesting subject. Specially since I was healed of asthma when I was 9 via this method.

I had asthma since I was 2 years of age, and then my mother started giving me "normal" medicines for it. I was almost dying when I was, and I told my mother I didn´t want more of that crap, that I didn´t care if I died or not (I was 4 years old). She took a very risky but beneficial step, she took me to a Chinese homeopath and acupuncturist, and to make it short, I no longer have any asthma since I was 9 (now I´m 24).

So I´m quite into energy healing, I believe we have chakras and they are the distributors of life and cosmic energy through our body. Chakras work with different frequencies of light, sound and everything we perceive with our 5 senses. Crystals certainly have the capability to transmit light into our body chakras, working as balance of our energy.

I´m not really looking for debate here, I´m just looking for tips; but if nobody is into this stuff, I will look elsewere. Certainly, you guys may have many arguments against this, and they could seem very rational, but sometimes I don´t like to work in the rational level, rather than the intuitive & compassionate level. After all, I would probably not be here if my mother would have used "rationality" in her quest for my healing.

Atom
08-13-07, 12:44 PM
Stick it between Stryders wrinkle...it may prevent him from becoming the World Blow Football Champion.:cool:

SkinWalker
08-13-07, 01:25 PM
I know this may sound weird to many folks, but I find energy healing a quite interesting subject. Specially since I was healed of asthma when I was 9 via this method.

Or your body simply overcame the asthma. There's nothing that says asthma is a permanent condition and it can be brought on temporarily by many things. In other words, your asthma was probably a symptom of something else and that something else was moved, removed, or conquered at the same time you were allegedly "healed" by "energy."

Every such claim of this sort of thing I've ever seen had no substantiation and there have actually been empirical tests conducted that showed there was no efficacy to the idea.

I´m not really looking for debate here, I´m just looking for tips; but if nobody is into this stuff, I will look elsewere.

You came to both the wrong place and the right place. You'll undoubtedly get both. Since this is a science forum, rationally minded skeptics will respond with "its baloney" (it really is). But, also because it is a science forum, there are a number of kooks and nutters that sign up to talk about this sort of thing like moths to the flame. They'll undoubtedly offer you many "tips," none of them supported by a shred of actual evidence.

Crunchy Cat
08-13-07, 02:57 PM
Hi folks, I just got a set of crystals for my personal purpose of energy healing, and I was wondering if some of you out there got some tips on cleansing and energizing crystals...

The only tip I have for you is that crystals don't have any means to objectively heal, clean, or energize people.

Wisdom_Seeker
08-13-07, 03:02 PM
You may think that my body overcame the asthma, but really, when I was 4 I was under a lot of western medication, because my asthma was very severe. When my mother decided to shift to eastern methods of healing, the doctor told her to drop me of all the medications and meat. So she did, after a month, my blood had changed color to a more natural way, and I was really feeling better after a few months. A year after my therapy, I had no more asthma attacks, except sporadically, and it was like that until I had my last asthma symptom around 9 years of age.
I find this quite substantiated, since my previous doctor had said that I was a very sick kid, and probably would never be able to play any sports in my entire life, because of my severe condition. Under the treatment of the Chinese doctor, I performed virtually every sport I could manage, and when I was like 14, I already was able to do triathlons and stuff. Since the beggining, the doctor was very confident on the fact that he was going to heal me, he had no doubts about it; I could say a lot about what western doctors said thought, they would have leaved me to die old in my room with an artificial breathing artifact, without any fun whatsoever.

Wisdom_Seeker
08-13-07, 03:04 PM
The only tip I have for you is that crystals don't have any means to objectively heal, clean, or energize people.

have any proof of that fact?

Enmos
08-13-07, 03:13 PM
Dont forget placebo effects..

Wisdom_Seeker
08-13-07, 03:33 PM
Dont forget placebo effects..

Sure, I´m not forgetting, but why didn´t placebo effect took place with western medication? after all, I was heavily medicated.

Orleander
08-13-07, 03:40 PM
You may think that my body overcame the asthma, but really, when I was 4 I was under a lot of western medication, because my asthma was very severe. When my mother decided to shift to eastern methods of healing, the doctor told her to drop me of all the medications and meat. So she did, after a month, my blood had changed color to a more natural way, and I was really feeling better after a few months. A year after my therapy, I had no more asthma attacks, except sporadically, and it was like that until I had my last asthma symptom around 9 years of age.....

This happened to me as well. Mine mysteriously went away when we moved. Same town, same farm atmosphere, same food. It was the house. My bedroom shared a wall with the old coal bin. Coal dust had built up in the wall, but we didn't know this til the next tenants remodeled. If my mom had decided to do what your Mom had done at this time, I'm sure we would have thought the same as you.

Is it possible you were having allergy induced asthma and it was the diet change that helped? And I would really like to hear more about your blood chageing to a 'more natural way'.

Enmos
08-13-07, 03:43 PM
Sure, I´m not forgetting, but why didn´t placebo effect took place with western medication? after all, I was heavily medicated.

Maybe you didnt believe in it as much.. :shrug:

Wisdom_Seeker
08-13-07, 04:04 PM
Maybe you didnt believe in it as much.. :shrug:

I was 4

Enmos
08-13-07, 04:06 PM
I was 4

Ok, i dont know then.. Orleander had a point too.

Wisdom_Seeker
08-13-07, 04:11 PM
And I would really like to hear more about your blood chageing to a 'more natural way'.

lol, well, it was like dark red, I mean really dark. And it changed to an orange-like red, healthier; this is true, since the doctor said he couldn´t perform the therapy until my blood was "cleansed"; and he showed the progress to my mother.

Anyway, it is interesting to hear a story like yours, althought there was no other change in my life other than the new healing methods.

Orleander
08-13-07, 04:14 PM
was this doctor a chiropractor? Do you have the same Dr as lixluke?

Wisdom_Seeker
08-13-07, 04:18 PM
was this doctor a chiropractor? Do you have the same Dr as lixluke?

Homeopath and acupuncturist, I find that rather unlikely. My doctor is disceased, he came from China and I was treated here, in my country, Costa Rica.

spidergoat
08-13-07, 04:22 PM
My next-door neighbor practiced crystal healing and reiki. I don't believe it at all, but it was a very pleasant experience. Sometimes that's all you need.

Wisdom_Seeker
08-13-07, 04:24 PM
My next-door neighbor practiced crystal healing and reiki. I don't believe it at all, but it was a very pleasant experience. Sometimes that's all you need.

Thats what I´m saying, like a soothing massage...

Crunchy Cat
08-13-07, 05:25 PM
have any proof of that fact?

You bet. Claims of crystal 'magic' have been around for along time and there has never been any evidence supporting the claim.

Orleander
08-13-07, 05:26 PM
what if the crystal was a salt crystal?

spidergoat
08-13-07, 05:52 PM
That's right, we can't live without salt!

cosmictraveler
08-13-07, 07:33 PM
The only crystal I see anyone using is crystal meth and that works wonders on their bodies.

Crunchy Cat
08-14-07, 10:52 AM
what if the crystal was a salt crystal?

yay magic salt!

Orleander
08-14-07, 04:57 PM
are any other minerals we need in crystal form? zinc?

kmguru
08-17-07, 10:57 PM
Some people can see or feel the energy levels of material things. It is difficult to prove because there may not be a sensor to detect that. I did play with Crystals and Gems to see if I can prove anything. Phase One was to set a baseline of the objects using a person who can see aura with the crystals.

First I divided these crystals that also included a few natural emeralds and got a base line like 0 to 10 level by the aura reader. Then I divided them to two groups and put one group between 25,000 volts for a week. I marked them with numbers and took the whole batch to her (the aura reader). She picked out the most energy level that turned out to be the ones that were under the high voltage box that see did not know anything about.

What this means, who knows? Whether the energy level, if they can be measured by a sensor will influence humans and in what way...no one knows.
But I doubt crystals will cure diseases.

Luck is a strange phenomena....rabbits foot anyone!

SkinWalker
08-17-07, 11:20 PM
Some people can see or feel the energy levels of material things.

If it's energy, why can't it be measured? What type of "energy" are you claiming people are seeing and feeling? I feel energy all the time and it is measurable. Just today I felt the energy of a distant star. The thermometer read 96F. Yesterday, I felt the energy of a low pressure zone.

I've a feeling the "energy levels of material things" you're referring to can be substituted with "miniature pink elephant."


Some people can see or feel the [COLOR="Magenta"]miniature pink elephants. It is difficult to prove because there may not be a sensor to detect that.

Yep. It works.

kmguru
08-17-07, 11:40 PM
Just today I felt the miniature pink elephants of a distant star

That works too. :m:

SkinWalker
08-18-07, 12:53 AM
Miniature pink elephants don't blind you when you stare at them. Nor do they require sunblock to protect your skin from long-term exposure. A certain, distant (relative to any place on Earth) star does.

Thus, there are data to support some energies; none to support those that appear to exist only in the imaginations of the credulous.

EmptyForceOfChi
08-19-07, 01:49 PM
i guess i should take my multiple super cloudbusters down, england has seen enough rainfall of late.

i used the biggest crystals i could find.

peace.

kmguru
08-19-07, 02:39 PM
Sounds like a plan :D