View Full Version : Creation Museum in Kentucky???


Michael
04-15-07, 03:42 AM
Surely no one here believes this?

Creation Museum in Kentucky (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18061154/site/newsweek/)

draqon
04-15-07, 03:49 AM
Surely no one here believes this?

Creation Museum in Kentucky (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18061154/site/newsweek/)

it is nice to dream. Imagining what could have been. Yes reality speaks that dinosaurs died long before humans existence. But reality is cold and dull. And illusions are sweet to touch.

wsionynw
04-15-07, 04:19 AM
Either Ken Ham is a very clever con man, or a complete fucking idiot. :confused:
If such a place opened in the UK it would be shut down within a week.

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 07:41 AM
Thank God for the internet and other media, the Brits are hearing all about it, right?

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 07:44 AM
Hey draqon, you should read After the Flood by William Cooper (a Brit wsinoney), it descrbes hundreds of dragon encounters with humans in Europe, North Africa, and Asia, throughout history, even in British government records, wsninioey.

Sock puppet path
04-15-07, 07:45 AM
Thank God for the internet and other media, the Brits are hearing all about it, right?


Yeah and realizing just how stupid many americans have become.

Nikelodeon
04-15-07, 07:46 AM
Last year, a Pew Research Center poll found that 58 percent of those interviewed support the idea of teaching creationism along with evolution in schools.

Man that would never happen in the UK.

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 07:48 AM
They're planning one for Britian, oh no!

Nikelodeon
04-15-07, 07:48 AM
We like satire.

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 07:50 AM
I'll be at the grand opening in London, I hope to see you there Nick.

Nikelodeon
04-15-07, 07:50 AM
You're comming here???!!! Fucking hell shit almighty bollocks wank

Sock puppet path
04-15-07, 07:59 AM
They're planning one for Britian, oh no!


You have to gradually dumb down the population first for a few decades before you open it or it won't be self sustaining.

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 08:02 AM
America leads the world in creation science, as well as, in business and scientific innovation.

Nikelodeon
04-15-07, 08:04 AM
America leads the world in creation science
Yeah thats cracks me up.

So are there going to be jesters in the British version?

Sock puppet path
04-15-07, 08:10 AM
America leads the world in creation science, as well as, in business and scientific innovation.

Yeah it's amazing that so many dumb asses can live side by side with smart folks and still not derive any benefit.

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 08:15 AM
One of the cool things about these young earth creationism museums is all the free publicity they engender, millions of dollars of free advertising by all the freaked out Darwinites, priceless.

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 08:17 AM
Sock, Darwinism and Lyellian dogma have zero bearing on scientific innovation.

KennyJC
04-15-07, 08:41 AM
I'll be at the grand opening in London, I hope to see you there Nick.

Nobody is going to take that seriously in this country. In fact many people will go just for the comedy value. I'd be interested in going myself before then going to the great natural history museum that London has, and learning many things about... um... natural history!

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 09:04 AM
Brits love the Bible.

Sock puppet path
04-15-07, 09:08 AM
Sock, Darwinism and Lyellian dogma have zero bearing on scientific innovation.

Right, :rolleyes: if your starting point is this

http://objectiveministries.org/creation/dinosaurman.jpg

It's pretty safe to say you won't become a rocket scientist later in life.

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 09:10 AM
Darwinism and Lyellian dogma have zero bearing on scientific innovation, right?

Nikelodeon
04-15-07, 09:13 AM
http://objectiveministries.org/creation/dinosaurman.jpg
LOL. Thats is so funny.

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 09:15 AM
"Funny pictures, pass the crayons."

KennyJC
04-15-07, 09:26 AM
Brits love the Bible.

They do? I don't know anybody who reads it. In fact the only people I know who are bible thumpers are in a family who lives in... you guessed it... America.

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 09:27 AM
Americans are just a bit more advanced in that regard.

Nikelodeon
04-15-07, 09:30 AM
You sure are(!)

Medicine*Woman
04-15-07, 09:47 AM
They do? I don't know anybody who reads it. In fact the only people I know who are bible thumpers are in a family who lives in... you guessed it... America.

*************
M*W: Another christian lie. Christianity is gasping for breath in the UK.

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 09:57 AM
Is not.

Sock puppet path
04-15-07, 11:42 AM
"Funny pictures, pass the crayons."

Why did you get a job doing creation science at the creationist museum?

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 11:49 AM
No, but I've written two books about the ancient world and the events thereof.

Sock puppet path
04-15-07, 11:52 AM
No, but I've written two books about the ancient world and the events thereof.

I'm sure they're colorful

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 11:57 AM
I hear they are fascinating reads, just ask Skin.

NDS
04-15-07, 01:07 PM
Hey Ice, you should read A Biblical Case for an Old Earth by Dr. David Snoke.

NDS
04-15-07, 01:08 PM
I hear they are fascinating reads, just ask Skin.

I hear they're pure bullshit. Just ask any geologist.

Just out of curiosity, IAC, are there any government reports of T-Rex's or Velociraptors in After the Flood?

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 01:13 PM
As you were reading Snoke's book, what struck you as very significant regarding the old earth/young earth debate vis-a-vis the Bible?

The British Government report from the late 1700's said that "flying dragons" came in from the North Sea when bad weather was to follow.

NDS
04-15-07, 01:23 PM
The British Government report from the late 1700's said that "flying dragons" came in from the North Sea when bad weather was to follow.

Yes, we've already established that. What about T-Rex's and Velociraptors?

Velociraptors and Allosaurs were supreme hunters of their day. A tiger or grizzly bear would look like a chihuahua to an Allosaur or Raptor.

So refresh my memory again as to how they went extinct only years after the flood?

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 01:27 PM
Many "dinosaurs" have been with us up 'til modern times.

NDS
04-15-07, 01:30 PM
Many "dinosaurs" have been with us up 'til modern times.

What dinos have been with us?
What year begins the "modern times"?
And again, why would a supreme hunter like the Raptor suddenly go extinct? It couldn't even last a few hundred years?

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 01:31 PM
You're not serious.

NDS
04-15-07, 01:36 PM
Hey Ice, instead of a smart ass reply, how about responding to a question for once in your life? Or is it just that you have no answer?

Sock puppet path
04-15-07, 01:42 PM
Dude when I was a kid we had a T-rex, my friends and I used to ride him to the store, til he ate Bobby Owens(it was totally an accident).

NDS
04-15-07, 01:48 PM
Absurd, isn't it? LOL. God created people like IAC to laugh at.

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 01:49 PM
Nebachadnezar had one at Babylon circa 500 B.C., and the Romans, led by Regulus, killed a brontosaurus type while battling in North Africa against the Carthaginans, apparently, as its skin was 120 feet long, which was sent to the Roman Senate, as reported by Cassius Dio.

Roman
04-15-07, 01:50 PM
“Man by himself could not have written such a consistent, non-contradictory book,” says Ham.

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 01:50 PM
And Pliny the Younger reported that the elephants and dragons in India battled each other.

iam
04-15-07, 01:52 PM
Nearby, a Garden of Eden is an animated vision depicting humans happily coexisting alongside dinosaurs and a little girl who laughs every time one of the giant reptiles bares its teeth.

heh, the girl laughs. Throw your children into crocodile pits and add a few komodo dragons so they can play teaparty.

religionists confuse the need for safety to actual safety. They project an eden because they want an eden. If only they could figure out the simple difference.

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 01:53 PM
Yeh, Christians saddle-up grizzly bears all the time.

Sock puppet path
04-15-07, 01:56 PM
And Pliny the Younger reported that the elephants and dragons in India battled each other.

Cause Pliny was there watching when he made the notes in his book. Jack traded his cow for 3 magic beans planted em grew a beanstalk, got goose made it big. I read it somewhere.

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 02:02 PM
Huh?

NDS
04-15-07, 02:06 PM
A few questions:

1) Why are no human fossils ever found anywhere near dinosaur fossils?
2) What did all of those carnivores eat on the ark, and post-ark?

3) How does the alleged existence of "dragons" prove that velociraptors, T-Rex's, and protoceratops existed only hundreds of years ago?

4) Why did none of the carnivores eat Noah and his family?

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 02:09 PM
I have you on ignore, but I don't have you on ignore.

NDS
04-15-07, 02:11 PM
I have you on ignore, but I don't have you on ignore.

If I had no answers, I would ignore the question too.

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 02:12 PM
That's not the reason, or didn't you know?

Woody
04-15-07, 03:08 PM
Interesting article. I've heard about the museum. It's in my home state.

from the article:

A NEWSWEEK poll (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17554740/site/newsweek/)conducted last month found that 39 percent of those surveyed felt that the theory of evolution was “not well-supported” by evidence.

The public school system fails again, eh. LOL

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 03:13 PM
Yeh, but according to Skin, those people are all delusional, how deluded is that?

NDS
04-15-07, 03:14 PM
IAC ----------> :itold:

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 03:17 PM
Sweeeeet.

Woody
04-15-07, 03:21 PM
AHH yes watch the universe being created. Wasn't there a Hubble telescope discovery along these lines?

http://www.answersingenesis.org/museum/walkthrough/images/Planetarium-Star-Skymerged.jpg

wsionynw
04-15-07, 03:39 PM
Hey draqon, you should read After the Flood by William Cooper (a Brit wsinoney), it descrbes hundreds of dragon encounters with humans in Europe, North Africa, and Asia, throughout history, even in British government records, wsninioey.

Published by New Wine Ministries, what a surprise!

wsionynw
04-15-07, 03:43 PM
America leads the world in creation science, as well as, in business and scientific innovation.

Once again a sweeping statement with no supporting evidence.
Creation science, surely a new definition of oxymoron!!! :D

wsionynw
04-15-07, 03:56 PM
I'll be at the grand opening in London, I hope to see you there Nick.

IAC, I hope to see at this grand opening too....
http://www.nhm.ac.uk/take-part/support-the-museum/project-support/darwin-centre-phase-2/index.html

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 04:01 PM
Eew.

wsionynw
04-15-07, 04:01 PM
http://www.answersingenesis.org/museum/walkthrough/

Great website aimed clearly at both vulnerable young children and fuck wit adults. One thing seems to be missing, where's the Atheists Nightmare wing , featuring a banana waterfall?

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 04:05 PM
"Fuck wit adults," is that an insult?

wsionynw
04-15-07, 04:07 PM
"Fuck wit adults," is that an insult?

No, just an observation. Do you feel insulted, or are you a vulnerable child?

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 04:09 PM
What do you think?

Michael
04-15-07, 07:11 PM
Why isn't creation "science" taught in a science curriculum at any public University anywhere in the world? This means not only is it NOT taught in America, nor in Europe, nor in S. America, nor in India, nor in AU or NZ nor in Japan, nor in Korea, nor in China, nor in HK or Taiwan or Singapore (bastions of Science) - but nowhere.

Could it be that there is massive cooperation on a scale never imaged - a, dare I say, World Wide Conspiracy!!!! (which probably involves anal probing aliens too!), or is the answer a little more mundane - like .. Ooo I don't know.... like because - no evidence exists...

Woody
04-15-07, 07:13 PM
IAC, I hope to see at this grand opening too....
http://www.nhm.ac.uk/take-part/support-the-museum/project-support/darwin-centre-phase-2/index.html

Reminds me of Noah's ark, except his specimens were alive. LOL.

Woody
04-15-07, 07:14 PM
Why isn't creation "science" taught in a science curriculum at any public University anywhere in the world? This means not only is it NOT taught in America, nor in Europe, nor in S. America, nor in India, nor in AU or NZ nor in Japan, nor in Korea, nor in China, nor in HK or Taiwan or Singapore (bastions of Science) - but nowhere.

Could it be that there is massive cooperation on a scale never imaged - a, dare I say, World Wide Conspiracy!!!! (which probably involves anal probing aliens too!), or is the answer a little more mundane - like .. Ooo I don't know.... like because - no evidence exists...

Creation science is actually metaphysics. Metaphysics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics) isn't taught in any universities either.

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 07:14 PM
Lol.

KennyJC
04-15-07, 07:30 PM
Reminds me of Noah's ark, except his specimens were alive. LOL.

I can totally understand you, Woody. You see, when I was 3 years old, I thought the story of Humpty Dumpty was real. I grew up though... but I just thought I'd share that I know exactly what you are going through.

IceAgeCivilizations
04-15-07, 07:55 PM
Was that an insult?

Woody
04-15-07, 08:04 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics

Notable metaphysicians:

Metaphysics writers
Peter Abelard
Aristotle
David Malet Armstrong
Thomas Aquinas
St. Augustine
Avicenna (Ibn Sina)
George Berkeley
Boethius
David Chalmers
Patricia Churchland
Paul Churchland
Donald Davidson
Gilles Deleuze
René Descartes
Albert Einstein
Georg W. F. Hegel
Martin Heidegger
Werner Heisenberg
David Hume
William James
Immanuel Kant
Mahmoud Khatami
Jaegwon Kim
Saul Kripke
Emmanuel Lévinas
Gottfried Leibniz
David Lewis
John Locke
Thomas Malthus
George Edward Moore
Thomas Nagel
Sir Isaac Newton
Andrés Ortíz-Osés
Charles Peirce
Max Planck
Alvin Plantinga
Plato
Plotinus
Karl Popper
Hilary Putnam
Willard V. O. Quine
Nicholas Rescher
Richard Rorty
Bertrand Russell
Jean-Paul Sartre
Arthur Schopenhauer
Erwin Schrödinger
John Duns Scotus
Wilfrid Sellars
J. J. C. Smart
Baruch Spinoza
Paul Tillich
Alfred N. Whitehead

Woody
04-15-07, 08:07 PM
Was that an insult?

Nah, it was a brain fart. Just ignore him. I do. ;)

Woody
04-15-07, 08:08 PM
I can totally understand you, Woody. You see, when I was 3 years old, I thought the story of Humpty Dumpty was real. I grew up though... but I just thought I'd share that I know exactly what you are going through.

You didn't learn anything 'cuz you have egg all over your face. I thought you were still in diapers myself.

spuriousmonkey
04-16-07, 03:12 AM
WOOHOO! I want to go to that museum!

But what I really want is go to a creationist zoo and walk with the dinosaurs!

WOOHOO!

draqon
04-16-07, 03:18 AM
WOOHOO! I want to go to that museum!

But what I really want is go to a creationist zoo and walk with the dinosaurs!

WOOHOO!

elephants are not dinosaurs anymore? or is that elephant-free zoo?

spuriousmonkey
04-16-07, 03:26 AM
elephants are not dinosaurs anymore? or is that elephant-free zoo?

Elephants never have been dinosaurs. Chickens are.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6548719.stm

wsionynw
04-16-07, 07:39 AM
Creation science is actually metaphysics. Metaphysics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics) isn't taught in any universities either.

So what?