From the DailyKos. I couldn't resist: O'Reilly & the Grand FOX Nutwork Tradition (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/24/184250/101).

The question posed is simple: "Well, what are the odds of all this happening by accident?"

The exhibit would be funny, except that, for obvious reasons, it isn't. Essentially, the exhibit is four still-frames from FOX News in which the graphics are grossly inaccurate:

(1) Republican incumbent is losing in late-September polls to Democratic challenger. FOX News error: parties are switched. Suddenly, the Republican candidate (who is actually a Democrat) leads the polls by eleven percent.

(2) Former Congressman Mark Foley, disgraced by scandal, leaves an unidentified building. FOX News error: Foley, in reality, is a Republican, not a Democrat.

(3) Brit Hume reports on Scooter Libby verdict. FOX News error: Libby was actually convicted.

(4) Senator Arlen Specter, either criticizing the White House, or shortly thereafter. FOX News error: Specter, in reality, is a Republican, not a Democrat.

I wish I could say people should watch FOX News for the humor, except, as noted, it's not particularly funny. Interestingly, O'Reilly's only place in the DailyKos report involves criticism of O'Reilly's recent slander of the website, and JetBlue's caving to a misguided or perhaps disingenuous public outcry.

FOX News: "We report, you decide." The only problem with that formula is that the reporting is shite.

Fake.

Do they ever switch Democrats and Republicans when the Democrats are under fire? Just a thought.

Okay. Good. Fine. Help us out--how do you know? Is there a link or resource we can use to demonstrate that? Maybe it's on your TiVo?

C'mon, Nick ... you can give us a little more than that, right?

Please?

Okay. Good. Fine. Help us out--how do you know? Is there a link or resource we can use to demonstrate that? Maybe it's on your TiVo?

C'mon, Nick ... you can give us a little more than that, right?

Please?

I dont know what TiVo is, but I watch Truth TV.

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/6281/1whitehousevchafeeonfoxdi8.jpg

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/7167/2foxfoleylabelqp3.jpg

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/8136/3specterdemocrathumein7.jpg

Hmm?

http://www.bradblog.com/Images/FoxOReilly_MarkFoleyDEM_100306.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tj8018NX6Q

Fake.

It'll take me a while to re-write that video, watch this space........or not.

Fake.

It'll take me a while to re-write that video, watch this space........or not.

Are you saying that your own forgeries are your proof?

And could you be a little more specific about "Truth TV"? I looked it up and landed at an Irish anti-abortion website.

Fox News = Truth. No-one can deny it......

I dont know what TiVo is

Ah. Sorry. It's a DVR system. I hadn't realized it was no longer available in the UK.

Ah. Sorry. It's a DVR system. I hadn't realized it was no longer available in the UK.

What! You don't have TiVo in the UK? OMFG! It's like my religion and stuff... I just couldn't live without it!

~String

We manage. We also have candles instead of light bulbs. Oh how I wish I lived in technologically superior USA!

Fox News = Fixed News = Fox Noise = Fake News. I like The Countdown with Keith Olberman on MSNBC every night at 7:00 PM (Central ST) because he calls O'Reilly and Hannity on their lies and "honest" mistakes.

Faux News, Fox Skews....

Do they ever switch Democrats and Republicans when the Democrats are under fire? Just a thought.

Never!

O'Reilly may have picked a fight he doesn't want. Or, as the Kos (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/27/205510/101) himself pointed out: "Two can play at this game."

Dear Lowe's Customer,

Thank you for your comments regarding the program, The O'Reilly Factor.

Lowe's has strict guidelines that govern the placement of our advertising. Our company advertises primarily in national, network prime-time television programs and on a variety of cable outlets.

Lowe's constantly reviews advertising buys to make certain they are consistent with its policy guidelines. The O'Reilly Factor does not meet Lowe's advertising guidelines, and the company's advertising will no longer appear during the program. (DailyKos (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/27/205510/101))

The score: Kos 1, O'Reilly 1.

Remember that the YearlyKos convention, while its name is inspired by the DailyKos, is its own thing. Granting O'Reilly a point is for the JetBlue pullout of the YearlyKos. In the long run, though, O'Reilly has more to lose than the DailyKos or any other political blog of any stripe.

And the O'Reilly/FOX crowd will face tougher challenges yet:

MoveOn.org, the Campaign for America's Future and liberal blogs like DailyKos.com are asking thousands of supporters to monitor who is advertising on the network. Once a database is gathered, an organized phone-calling campaign will begin, said Jim Gilliam, vice president of media strategy for Brave New Films, a company that has made anti-Fox videos.

The groups have successfully pressured Democratic presidential candidates not to appear at any debate sponsored by Fox, and are also trying to get Home Depot Inc. to stop advertising there.

At least 5,000 people nationwide have signed up to compile logs on who is running commercials on Fox, Gilliam said. The groups want to first concentrate on businesses running local ads, as opposed to national commercials.

''It's a lot more effective for Sam's Diner to get calls from 10 people in his town than going to the consumer complaint department of some pharmaceutical company,'' Gilliam said. (NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/arts/AP-TV-Fox-Protest.html))

Who knows? Maybe Bill thinks he's untouchable. Of course, with FOX at his back, he's had good reason to think so. But FOX is a corporation. Ratings are usually important because they mean higher ad prices. But if fewer companies are buying those ads, they might consider dropping Bill for another conservative hack.

In principle, this is one fight O'Reilly shouldn't have picked. Whether that principle translates to reality remains to be seen.

Take up that stone and feel its weight;
Time marches on again.
Cry out, "Throw first before it's too late!"
Time marches on again.
Run to the shelter of sarcasm and the shield of permanent grin;
Wrapped in your cloak of superiority so thick
That none of that shit can get in.

Ashes to ashes, and dust to dust.
You just keep on hating the whole world if you must.

Yes everything peaceful, and everyone old and gray,
Anyone who dares preach love and every kind word I say,
And any thought of a future that just might be worth looking for,
I watch you snicker and label it useless.
I was once you before;
I walked out that door.

(Floater, "Ashes to Ashes")

Heh, I was watching OutFoxed again, gettin' some good laughs as usual with em, but decided to check out the bonus material, lol, and found another whopper by him I forgot about that I couldn't find mentioned here.

Anyone remember when Barbara Boxer was questioning Condoleeza Rice during her confirmation hearing and said: "I personally believe ... that your loyalty to the mission you were given, to sell this war, overwhelmed your respect for the truth". But Bill O'Reilly lies and said she said "troops" not "truth", and then goes on a huge tirade like usual and even tells some callers that went to correct him, on different days even, that they don't know what they're talking about because he's always right, lol.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200502010001

Why does Bill O'Reilly hate the Kos, Media Matters, Olbermann, Daily Show, and others? Cause they call them on their bullshit. What's funny is they don't even have to say anything, the radio and TV clips speak for themselves. I think they have too much rope to hang themselves with as they need a deeper chasm to stumble and fall in.

- N

Fox News = Fixed News = Fox Noise = Fake News. I like The Countdown with Keith Olberman on MSNBC every night at 7:00 PM (Central ST) because he calls O'Reilly and Hannity on their lies and "honest" mistakes.

Let me ask you this, though: does he treat democrats in the same manner? Would he call Hillary on an "honest" mistake?

Don't get me wrong, I acknowledge Mr. Olbermann in his dogged pursuit of O'Reilly et al. and that's all well and good. I just wonder if he tends to only criticize those on the right, while ignoring those on the left.

I'm asking this more because I don't really watch him or anyone else on the news channels unless I happen to catch them at the right time.

Anyone remember when Barbara Boxer was questioning Condoleeza Rice during her confirmation hearing and said: "I personally believe ... that your loyalty to the mission you were given, to sell this war, overwhelmed your respect for the truth". But Bill O'Reilly lies and said she said "troops" not "truth", and then goes on a huge tirade like usual and even tells some callers that went to correct him, on different days even, that they don't know what they're talking about because he's always right, lol.



This may have little to do with the conversation at hand, and I apologize in advance, but in light of the "troops", I'm getting really sick of the way the current administration shrouds itself in this guise of "if you're against us, you hate the troops". This is the most illogical, emotionally-based and faulty reasoning that one can stoop to. Instead of accepting that criticisms are directed at them(the Administration), they deflect them to ordinary men and women who are supposedly tasked with the responsibility of defending this country, its people, and its constitution. It's a completely dishonest tactic, indeed, especially when only the executive branch is truly responsible for starting the war(s) we are currently engaged in, at least as far as Iraq is concerned.

Is anyone else fed up with this tactic?

tiassa, it's so funny how you idolize Kos :)

tiassa, it's so funny how you idolize Kos

I do? Okay, if you say so. I guess it's better than idolizing child-murdering Nazi wanna-bes.

Whats Kos?

Whats Kos?

Its Arabic for c*nt

I do? Okay, if you say so. I guess it's better than idolizing child-murdering Nazi wanna-bes.

oops
are you upset because idolizing someone is "for losers"?

here's a quote of you to illustrate your idolizing ways, you idolizing idol worshipper ;)

O'Reilly may have picked a fight he doesn't want. Or, as the Kos himself pointed out: "Two can play at this game." ...

Kos is a person??

Its Arabic for c*nt

and in Persian too

hahah
omg i never even thought about it. it's true. Kos is a pussy. a very popular and annoying pussy. maybe it reflects the times.

Fox News = Truth. No-one can deny it......

um yeah you can deny it they lie and slant stuff all the time. they are not really a news group but a propaganda group

Let me ask you this, though: does he treat democrats in the same manner? Would he call Hillary on an "honest" mistake?

Don't get me wrong, I acknowledge Mr. Olbermann in his dogged pursuit of O'Reilly et al. and that's all well and good. I just wonder if he tends to only criticize those on the right, while ignoring those on the left.

I'm asking this more because I don't really watch him or anyone else on the news channels unless I happen to catch them at the right time.

yes he does i watch him daily

are you upset because idolizing someone is "for losers"?

Who says I'm upset?

here's a quote of you to illustrate your idolizing ways, you idolizing idol worshipper

If you say so.

Who says I'm upset?



If you say so.

good ol' tiassa. i can always count on you to entertain me :)

i'm reading a book by Stephen King right now, and there's a character in it that reminds me so much of you.

i'm reading a book by Stephen King right now

Explains a lot.

Is there something wrong with Stephen King?

Is there something wrong with Stephen King?

In my opinion, yes. Then again, I hadn't paid attention to his work since the abysmal Four Past Midnight until I received a copy of Lisey's Story as a gift. I gave Lisey's Story my best effort, but ... it didn't pan out for me. Don't get me wrong, King is good at what he does, much like Britney Spears is good at getting attention. But these days, when I think of Stephen King, it's sort of a nightmare; I still can't figure out what purpose the scene in Pet Sematary served when the wife gave her husband a hand job with a bath sponge and made a crack about the Girl Scouts. At least, I think it was Pet Sematary.

I suppose I should at least wonder what book our associate is reading; who knows, I might be honored. But knowing that I remind someone of a character in a Stephen King book is actually a bit of a laugh. I suppose I should probably go check in on the Kos for the first time in weeks, just to accommodate the Stephen King faction.

:roflmao:

T, you're da man :D

i'm reading the Dreamcatcher now. it was written in 2001. it doesn't go on and on on tangents the way King used to do in his previous books, which makes it an improvement. imo he's written better, but the lack of endless mind diarrhea makes it an easy and entertaining read.

you remind me one of the 4 friends. guess which one?

you remind me one of the 4 friends. guess which one?

Couldn't even begin to guess. He wrote a book called Dreamcatcher?

yea.
it was even adapted (very poorly) into a 2003 movie
http://dreamcatchermovie.warnerbros.com/

I haven't read King in years, but I've always enjoyed his earlier work as sort of a modern day equivilent of H.G. Welles. In other words, he's not fine literature, but he definitely has something to say about the way humans tick and what terrifies us. I also think he is a grossly underated writer, in that his plots are fairly complex and original and his characters pretty well developed. Britney Spears? No way. That's much too harsh.

No, no. Britney Spears is pretty well developed. But she seems to have developed it all overnight at a clinic.

No she had elbow surgery. That fact that her breasts grew bigger at that exact same time was a coincidence.

I haven't read King in years, but I've always enjoyed his earlier work as sort of a modern day equivilent of H.G. Welles. In other words, he's not fine literature, but he definitely has something to say about the way humans tick and what terrifies us. I also think he is a grossly underated writer, in that his plots are fairly complex and original and his characters pretty well developed. Britney Spears? No way. That's much too harsh.

His earlier work is good, and marks a strong departure from more classical horror stories from Poe to Lovecraft to Robert Bloch. In a nutshell, the first King book I recall reading was Different Seasons, and for various reasons I still adore that as his best. I prefer the original release of The Stand; the extra material in the later release seemed ... well, extraneous. Cujo was a better movie than novel; this makes sense in light of the anecdote that King doesn't remember writing the book. (Cocaine use; did you ever see the SNL sketch some years ago of King ... I forget who played him ... giving an interview while he wrote a novel?) But I didn't like the short story "The Night Flier" (Prime Evil, Douglas Winter ed.), decided that Straub's influence in The Talisman was the better part of the story, and was at once disappointed and infuriated by Four Past Midnight, at which time I stopped reading King. As with any pop genre, the most popular is rarely the best. Unfortunately, with Four Past Midnight, the irony of the best story in the book did not sit well with me: in a story about plagiarism, King made a clumsy grab of Charles L. Grant's Dialing the Wind (I think) for the hook at the end. The high points of the 1980s golden age of horror, at least to me, are Clive Barker in general, Charles Grant's In a Dark Dream, Douglas E. Winter's anthology Prime Evil (including King, Barker, Ramsey Campbell, Jack Cady, Whitley Streiber, Chelsea Quinn Yarbro, and others), Whitley Streiber's Billy, Ray Bradbury's Death is a Lonely Business and its sequel Graveyard for Lunatics, and Robert McCammon's Boy's Life (1992; the last nail in the coffin, so to speak; the golden age was over after that one.) For the most part, Stephen King couldn't touch any of these after Skeleton Crew and, perhaps, It.

As he continued to get popular acclaim after the disastrous Four Past Midnight and Nightmares & Dreamscapes, I actually started to resent him. He once did an interview on HBO's Dennis Miller Live, and the only thing I got from that was that I would never want to be his publicist. He's best kept away from public view. (It would have been funny, but there comes a point where I can't laugh at someone's unfortunate appearance of idiocy.)

The thing is that, like Britney Spears (or any number of cheap pop artists), King represents the popular edge of a valuable genre, a hack whose light shines so brightly over the marketplace as to obscure better, more worthy writers.

And it gets more complicated if I let it. In the end, it's enough to simply hold him to be among the best of the hack writers, and that's no small accomplishment. But in trying to read his later work, I can't quell the voice in my brain that shouts, "Why are you doing this to me?"

No she had elbow surgery. That fact that her breasts grew bigger at that exact same time was a coincidence.

Ah, swelling. Gotcha.