I've had some dreams that hint of this, of course, some are just the brain sorting and rearranging information.

Once in college, I had a dream that started with a bold flash of light, then I looked around me in class in (slow mo) and took note in detail of my environment to even what other students were wearing. The next day in class it was exactly as I had dreamed.

I've had some dreams that hint of this, of course, some are just the brain sorting and rearranging information.

Once in college, I had a dream that started with a bold flash of light, then I looked around me in class in (slow mo) and took note in detail of my environment to even what other students were wearing. The next day in class it was exactly as I had dreamed.

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M*W: I've had this happen to me, too. I can't explain it, but I'm an intuitive person, and I will think of someone who I haven't seen in years, and then I'll see them like the next day! In my dreams, I hear the dialog in advance. It doesn't have to be profound or anything, but it's like I already knew what was going to be said. Ever since I was a small child, I've done astral travel, and of all the traveling I've been fortunate to have done, I visited the same places in my dreams before I went. Sometimes even those dreams are not profound. My astral travel can be to the local Wal-Mart where I'll run into someone I've been thinking about. I don't know if I'm creating the situations by thinking about them, or if I'm just receiving the information before it happens.

No dude, dreams are just dreams. Not real, not portals to another realm, no way to discover information remotely, just dreams.

Dreams are one proved way of improving your tavelling ability, thus allowing you to get around the spped of light limitiation.

Yes, all dreams respresent other dimensions...of course, since they do not take place in the "normal" physical reality.
You can recieve precognition, as you did, and other to you valuable information, meet people from other lives, visit new and old places, create symbolical solutions to your waking life problems etc.

what?

dreams are your imagination, nothing more. you probably have a dream every night, but only remember a few. I believe that it is much more likely that your mind filled in the blanks of your dream with what you saw the next day.

Dreams are really interesting and really complicated in my mind. Most people rule dreams out as conjurings of the mind, but I am of the opinion that the dream state can transport your "mind" to another, higher dimension (call it astral travel or whatever). I don't think that this is necessarily dreaming, it just occurs while you are in the deep state of conciousness where or near where dreams occur. Let me explain, there are 4 different types of conciousness, or 4 different types of waves that one's brain produces during different actions (if you want to correlate these I'm sure you can find a website on your own, but here (http://www.web-us.com/brainwavesfunction.htm) is one) according to the EEG machine invented by Hans Berger (hehe):

Beta waves: the brain produces these when you are awake and active. Doing chores and such. 12-15 cycles per second and up.

Alpha waves: 6-14 cpcles per second, this is where daydreaming, nocturnal dreaming and hypnosis occur. Also, if you believe in that stuff (I happen to), psychic experiences may occur here as well.

Theta waves: Approximately 4-8 cycles per second here. This, it is speculated, is where our "emotional experiences" are recorded and where most psychic activity takes place.

Delta waves: These are during unconciousness or deep dreamless sleep, anything less than 4-5 cycles per second.

Now, during sleep one generally quickly through beta, alpha, theta and into delta for a short time (transition takes like 30 minutes, generally, and you would stay int delta for like 90 minutes). Then you would cycle up to theta and alpha where you would dream for awhile. That process would continue through the night. (This information came partially from Psychic Development for Beginners by William W. Hewitt)

I believe that during the time spent in the Theta area, one is able to mentally travel into another, higher dimension. This is supported by quantum mechanics which says that our brain sees much more than our eyes can process (like having a camera with a cloudy lens). So, I would say that the "astral" dimension is right here on earth, but we are unable to see it with our eyes due to their out-of-date ness, but we are able to see it with our mind, which can be "freed" (so to speak) when our physical body is asleep and dormant. (By the way, my quantum mechanics information comes cheifly from memory, but check out the movie What the Bleep Do We Know for an awesome quantum theory time). I also think, that if one were so inclined, they could train themselves to go to this dimension voluntarily rather than in dreams. Because, in theory, all one would need to do to be psychic is to be able to deliberately transport your mind from beta to theta and alpha waves (which takes years of training and obscene amounts of time and isnt nearly as easy as it sounds...which would be that I'm not very good at it what with school and stuff [becuase I know someone will ask]). :D

But, of course, since none of this can be phsyically proven to anyone else unless they expereince it, science will likely never agree. The only option is for the skeptics to rid their mind of all doubt and actually, with an open mind, try it. But, sadly, they probably won't :(. Oh, well.

The power of dreams is yet too weak to awaken us.
Worlds within worlds, dreams within dreams.
Where is the bottom, where is the top?
Where am I and where are the dreams?

what the hell is a "higher dimension" like, you become 5D instead of 4D? I am not sure how one would remember that, as I can't even imagine it =].

I hate the way people take things that are not completely understood by science, and make them magical. there is no reason to believe in other realities. until something more than unsupported guesses can be shown, one should either ignore such theories or devise a test of their validity. don't waste time.

p.s. you can't postdict things and pretend that you are psychic. a real test is to describe something in complete detail, write down each detail, share this with other people, and then prove that such a thing exists without being created by you.

could dreams be alternative realities?

Simply, No. One "Dream" I had, happened to have credits at the end. An Alternative reality wouldn't contain credits now would it?

"Alternative reality"? As in "not real"...? Of course.

alternative realities as in another plain of existance parallel to our own universe...!!!

what the hell is a "higher dimension" like, you become 5D instead of 4D? I am not sure how one would remember that, as I can't even imagine it =].

Well, there are theories, cato, though I dont have much experience with them, that as one progresses further on in the "enlighenment" chain, one gains more use of the mental and less of the physical, meaning the physical body is no longer needed (sometimes called ascencion). These may be where one would begin their journey into the afterlife. But that is, of course, if you believe in an afterlife, which I have suspicion that you do not.

I hate the way people take things that are not completely understood by science, and make them magical. there is no reason to believe in other realities. until something more than unsupported guesses can be shown, one should either ignore such theories or devise a test of their validity. don't waste time.

Sorry to burst your bubble cato, but ummm science doesn't completely understand anything...at all. I mean, 400 years ago, people would swear their lives that the world was flat and that if you sailed too far you would fall into endless abyss. As history has repeated time and time again, the theories that we take for granted today will likely, in time, become a laughing stock. And the process is the same again, until a huge group of people with significant funds and technology comes along and questions the status quo, this will stay the same. And, especially with matters of the mind, it is nearly impossible in this day and age to test or anything, so you either believe or you don't. And there is at least one, scientifically supported theory of other realities called the multidimensional theory. There are many websites dedicated to this theory (here is one to get you started (http://ming.tv/flemming2.php/__show_article/_a000010-000844.htm) ).

p.s. you can't postdict things and pretend that you are psychic. a real test is to describe something in complete detail, write down each detail, share this with other people, and then prove that such a thing exists without being created by you.

I think I missed something, but there is a "test" that falls right under this description and withing the realm of psychic skills, its called remote viewing and is a very well documented phenomena.. The US military is, at this moment trying to get funding for research on this and other psychic skills (here (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2004-11-05-teleportation_x.htm) is an article about the 7.5 million that it asked for to study psychokinesis [telekinesis and psychic teleportation, both are things that I happen to think are possible and obviously, the military has suspicions too]), cops are using remote viewers to solve crimes (I dont know how it works, but they do), and here is something to get you started on remote viewing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing) (::Warning, its Wikipedia::)

first things first,

Well, there are theories, cato, though I don't have much experience with them,
uhh, no. there are hypotheses at best, and predominantly unfounded speculation.

Sorry to burst your bubble cato, but ummm science doesn't completely understand anything...at all.
I would first like to apologize to everyone for misusing the term "science." science is a method, and cannot "understand" anything.

I mean, 400 years ago, people would swear their lives that the world was flat and that if you sailed too far you would fall into endless abyss. As history has repeated time and time again,...blah...blah
why did people believe the earth was flat? because people, like yourself, make claims of truth but have no evidence for their claims. if one looks at the scientific evidence carefully, it is obvious that earth is round. only when people diverge from the evidence will they be wrong.

the theories that we take for granted today will likely, in time, become a laughing stock. And the process is the same again, until a huge group of people with significant funds and technology comes along and questions the status quo, this will stay the same. And, especially with matters of the mind, it is nearly impossible in this day and age to test or anything, so you either believe or you don't.
people are only a laughing stock if they believe something for which there is no evidence. Newtonian physics has been proven incomplete by modern physics, but nobody laughs at newton because his claims were so well supported by the evidence, that common sense would guide anyone to believe them.


And there is at least one, scientifically supported theory of other realities called the multidimensional theory. There are many websites dedicated to this theory (here is one to get you started ).
wrong again. they are either unscientific theories, or scientific hypotheses. to understand what it takes to be a scientific theory, I suggest you read this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory#Science)

I think I missed something, but there is a "test" that falls right under this description and withing the realm of psychic skills, its called remote viewing and is a very well documented phenomena
no, these are not properly controlled tests. if one wanted to develop anything more than a hypothesis, one would have to document and peer review several tests that could not be faked or gotten by guessing. for example, you could have the test subject guess ahead of time the exact number of pellets produced by an old fashioned shot tower (http://www.traphof.org/shot-towers-2/shot-towers-page-1.htm). if a person can see the future, then they should be able to guess the exact number. if they can't, then they cannot see the future.

please, take time to understand science before you abandon it. science is a beautiful thing, and I would like all mankind to share it's wonders.

Only a quick reply this evening. But, first things first

why did people believe the earth was flat? because people, like yourself, make claims of truth but have no evidence for their claims. if one looks at the scientific evidence carefully, it is obvious that earth is round. only when people diverge from the evidence will they be wrong.

No, people believed that the earth was flat for 2 reasons. #1-there was insufficient technology to test the theory of the earth being round. Much, I may say, like lack of technology we posess at present in testing the psychic skills. #2-People lacked the courage to test the status quo. Everyone was scared because if you fall off of the earth, there is no coming back. Much like today, if a scientist decides to test the waters and sails to the end of the earth (psychic skills) and falls off (finds inconclusive results) there is no return and his/her career is likely over. Therefore, no oe really wants to test the waters until that one, like Aristotle or Columbus. The fact of the matter is that we will get nowhere without tests, and tests will get nowhere if people aren't willing to test the waters and believe something not widely accepted.

By the way, remote viewing is tested often. They call the tests CRV (controlled/connected/coordinate remote viewing) and the government even had there own controlled tests where you would put a person in a room, alone, and tell people he's never met to go to a place that he's never been and he draws pictures to decribe what he sees in his mind. Here is a little info here (http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/CIA-InitiatedRV.html)

Well, its not that short after all...

alternative realities as in another plain of existance parallel to our own universe...!!!
No evidence to indicate that there are any.
I mean, 400 years ago, people would swear their lives that the world was flat
No they didn't - the idea of us not knowing knowing the Earth was round is Victorian revisionism - the Ancient Greeks knew Earth was spherical and the race as a whole never lost that knowledge.
And there is at least one, scientifically supported theory of other realities called the multidimensional theory
Scientific SPECULATION. Not theories. Untestable, unverifiable, they're merely a "fiction" or supposition to account for some of the things not fully understood about quantum phenomena.
There are many websites dedicated to this theory (here is one to get you started ).
That site is pure drivel:- Suppose we start with the simple assumption that space and time are infinite. Starts with an unsupported supposition and then goes downhill...

By the way, remote viewing is tested often. They call the tests CRV (controlled/connected/coordinate remote viewing) and the government even had there own controlled tests where you would put a person in a room, alone, and tell people he's never met to go to a place that he's never been and he draws pictures to decribe what he sees in his mind. Here is a little info here (http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/CIA-InitiatedRV.html)

Well, its not that short after all...
Yes the CIA and the US army wasted $20 million of taxpayers money on project Stargate. It was eventually shut down because it was not working.

No, people believed that the earth was flat for 2 reasons. #1-there was insufficient technology to test the theory of the earth being round. Much, I may say, like lack of technology we posess at present in testing the psychic skills.
people didn't lack the technology. all they had to do was sail a large lake or ocean. as Oli pointed out, people knew the earth was spherical long before the middle ages when people abandoned the science for an unsupported claim, which is exactly what you are doing now.

edit: really all you had to do was think about it. if all this water is just pouring over the edge of the earth, why are there no extreme currents?

#2-People lacked the courage to test the status quo.
there are a few reasons why people of Europe in the middle/dark ages didn't attack the status quo, but it was primarily religion.


my advice is simple. let science work. don't start from a position that is unsupported and try and find anecdotal evidence to support it, find a "psychic" and test them, like I mentioned earlier, in such a way that the solution is clear.

Sorry to burst your bubble cato, but ummm science doesn't completely understand anything...at all. I mean, 400 years ago, people would swear their lives that the world was flat and that if you sailed too far you would fall into endless abyss. As history has repeated time and time again, the theories that we take for granted today will likely, in time, become a laughing stock.

Sorry, but you've seemed to have missed the main controlling factor for such ignorance... Religion. Religion didn't want science and for centuries every time someone tried to do something that didn't fit into the Zealot methodology, people would find themselves cast out, tortured to repent their evil heresy of dealing in the dark arts (science) or otherwise just outright being burnt for witchcraft.

Religion in it's hayday wasn't something to be embraced, it was something to be feared.


On another note there are small fragments of data out there involving the study of ESP and what you've defined Remote Viewing by various governments. To my knowledge any actual remote viewing done either required the use of artificial mediums to manipulate a result directly or were consequences (side effects) of other main experiments.

I understood the religion thing 400 years ago and merely wished to point out that the same thing (RELATIVELY) happens today when someone in an academic position decides to hypothesize(spelling?) about something new. They are chastised and their career becomes history. It's not death, but in this day and age its just like it. But, mark my words, within the next 50 years there will be major breakthroughs concerning these topics.

And, by the way, I honestly believe that the reason that no one believes in the psychic powers now is because all of the psychics are either frauds or dont want to admit to a test of their skills, though I see why they won't. Think about it, for people with psychic skills, it wouldnt really matter if anyone believed you, you dont have anything to prove so why even bother. If one is psychically inclined (meaning more enlightened), a million dollars doesnt really mean nothing becuase you cant take it with you and what if you die tomorrow?

So, we are never going to agree on this because we come from different perspectives but, again, mark my words. Give it 50 years and the scientific and paranormal communities will become very close.

You'll be suprised what I believe or understand. What I do know however though is that there is no Natural Psychic powers, Entropy pretty much dictates that considering the method of how any such "Powers" would be created.

But, mark my words, within the next 50 years there will be major breakthroughs concerning these topics.
ok.




And, by the way, I honestly believe that the reason that no one believes in the psychic powers now is because all of the psychics are either frauds or dont want to admit to a test of their skills, though I see why they won't. Think about it, for people with psychic skills, it wouldnt really matter if anyone believed you, you dont have anything to prove so why even bother. If one is psychically inclined (meaning more enlightened), a million dollars doesnt really mean nothing becuase you cant take it with you and what if you die tomorrow?
So they could win a million dollars and give the money to charity but choose not to. Perhaps they are not so enlightened after all...

Well, if you were closer to enlightenment and realized truly that money has no value and fame is merely a straying from the path, there would be no reason for you to want 1 million dollars either...maybe I'll feel that way when I advance further:)

This may be off topic, but...I love dreams.

Well, if you were closer to enlightenment and realized truly that money has no value and fame is merely a straying from the path, there would be no reason for you to want 1 million dollars either...maybe I'll feel that way when I advance further:)You are missing my point. They could win the money and give it all away to charity. Why don't they do this? It would be such a positive act.

Perhaps these powers don't really exist and people are just making excuses.

why are you bashing science if you also make the excuses that no real psychics agree to be scientifically tested? criticize the psychic, not science.

They are chastised and their career becomes history. It's not death, but in this day and age its just like it
examples? as long as the research is legitimate, I don't think anyone would care. practicing bad science is a sure way to have your grant taken away though.

Well, if you were closer to enlightenment and realized truly that money has no value and fame is merely a straying from the path, there would be no reason for you to want 1 million dollars either...maybe I'll feel that way when I advance further:)

It's not that "money has no value", money is only given value by those that use it. Money was only ever meant as a means to create a fairer trading system over the original "swapping" one where someone could swap something of more value for something of lesser in regards to something else.

(Namely someone swaps one sheep for 3 geese, and the 3 geese are worth 6 chickens, however if that person swapped the sheep for chickens they would only recieve 5 of them. Money removes this problem by pricing things with a monetary denomination, it also means that you don't necessarily have to get geese to get the extra chicken.)

As for this whole "1 million dollar prize" thing, simply it's not about the 1 mil. To those that don't have the money they might see that 1 mil as a status symbol, afterall it's an award if such psychic's can prove their real as apposed to fake.

I do have some theories of how to scientifically create certain critera to create occurances that would seem psychic, however they would only be seen as psychic from an audiences position, from backstage the science used would pretty much show that it was just a cleverly manipulated con job.

I wasnt "bashing science" merely attempting to point out the fact that all new theories, no matter if they are well supported with evidence or not, face harsh conditions in this world wher we are so sure of everything. And has been true for every single scientific theory ever presented. No one just said, "Hey, that Newton guy seems to have a good idea, everyone lets adopt his theories." Newton ran into opposition in religion as today we run into the opposition that for some reason scientists seem to think that their current theories must be correct (again as religious people may say the same).

And, as to the 1 million dollar question, I honestly dont know why no one has taken up the offer. But, personally, if I ever develop my psychic skills further, to a point of great difference, I really dont see the point in getting soneone's approval. It wouldnt really matter to me if anyone believed that I was psychic, becuase I know, and that would really be the only thing that mattered to me. And demonstrations would fall in the same boat, if you dont believe, what makes you think that someone giving scotch free scientific proof will either. Honestly, some people will always be skeptical of it, so whats the point. At least, that would be my point of view, I honestly dont know what the "real" psychics are thinking.

You can't apply that Science being opposed by Religion is the same as Paranormal powers being opposed by Science.

Religion did not care for evidence, if it was the contrary to their belief's then it was obviously inaccurate and fraudulant.

True science does contain a state of openmindedness which you might not see as existant but its there, Science is about the testing, the calculus and weighing of things so that it's not just understood but not an unweighable phenomona. If you believe some scientists to be biased, then you should understand their views are based on the "values" that they know of, however they should be open to explore in experiments until without shadow of a doubt it's either completely calculated and weighed up, or proven to be a falsity.

I wasnt "bashing science" merely attempting to point out the fact that all new theories, no matter if they are well supported with evidence or not, face harsh conditions in this world wher we are so sure of everything. And has been true for every single scientific theory ever presented.
that is not true, you simply have to provide evidence. moreover, if you are trying to propose a new theory that overrides an old theory, you have to account for all of the predictions that the old theory got right.

name 5 instances of scientific communities rejecting a theory for which there is sound evidence. I can only think of one, and it pertained to geological formations, which is very difficult to study.

And, as to the 1 million dollar question, I honestly dont know why no one has taken up the offer. But, personally, if I ever develop my psychic skills further, to a point of great difference, I really dont see the point in getting soneone's approval. It wouldnt really matter to me if anyone believed that I was psychic, becuase I know, and that would really be the only thing that mattered to me. And demonstrations would fall in the same boat, if you dont believe, what makes you think that someone giving scotch free scientific proof will either. Honestly, some people will always be skeptical of it, so whats the point. At least, that would be my point of view, I honestly dont know what the "real" psychics are thinking.

Anyone who develops psychic abilities enough to get the prize away from Randi would make far more millions doing almost anything else with them. It would also be easier.

Anyone who develops psychic abilities enough to get the prize away from Randi would make far more millions doing almost anything else with them. It would also be easier.

It's even easier to just trick people into thinking you have psychic abilities, and make millions, like Uri Geller.

To drop a couple of quotes;

'There's a sucker born every minute'

'A fool and his money are soon parted'

Which explains why Geller is rich, and Randi still has his million.

i am constantly having dreams where by i'm experiencing my life as it might be in an alternate universe, where my life has taken a different path.

i think its to do with my realisation of the infinite number of different but important ways my life could have turned out, good or bad.

The Right-Brained Mode Of Communication Which Dreams Utilize - Images And Symbols - Is Archaic, Primitive, And Generally Unfamiliar Territory To The Modern, Left-Brained Mode Of Thinking.

And That's Why Their Meaning Often Seems So Hidden And Mysterious...

You'll be suprised what I believe or understand. What I do know however though is that there is no Natural Psychic powers, Entropy pretty much dictates that considering the method of how any such "Powers" would be created.

Don't be so full of yourself Stryder, you'll be suprised what you don't know.
You may believe that only what you perceive exists, but that doesn't change the validity of every other persons individual experience. Entropy doesn't dictate my life.

Entropy doesn't dictate my life.

I just dropped an egg on the floor, would you be so kind as to put it back together for me?

Is it still on the floor?

Don't be so full of yourself Stryder, you'll be suprised what you don't know.
You may believe that only what you perceive exists, but that doesn't change the validity of every other persons individual experience. Entropy doesn't dictate my life.
this is essentially the same mistake theists make about atheists. we are not trying to say that such a thing is out of the question, we are simply saying that one should not accept it as valid until it can be verified, scientifically.

I have had instances where I thought that I dreamt about an exact place with exact circumstances, but how do I know I really did? all it would take is for your mind to put a bad "timestamp" on your memory, allowing you to think that you dreamt it, when in fact what you were recalling what happened a few moments ago.

my point is: with so many possible explanations, why be so closed minded as to say "I must have had a psychic vision."

edit: (Q), I can make you an egg descrambling machine in a day, all I would have to do is put a chicken in a box, and feed it your scrambled egg =]

Why be so closeminded as to assume that I assume every vision is psychic?
I don't know if it ever can be verified "scientifically", although I do assume that someday it may be possible. I never assume that my visions and dreams are psychic, they are only verified as such after the event actually happens, only then do I make that connection.
For example, some time ago I had a dream about my cousins children trying to jump off a roof, they thought it was no danger, laughing and playing around, while I saw that it was so high that they could die if they jumped off.
In the morning I called my cousin to tell her about it, and she told me that the day before they had been visiting her brother up north. She and him had been sitting in the kitchen when they felt a cold breeze, so they went into the other room to see what the children were doing. The children were standing in the open window planning to jump down. It had snowed that day, only a few cm, but to them it looked so soft and fluffy that they wanted to jump down into it.
It was the first time I recall having a dream about her children too, and me and my cousin don't speak on day to day basis, so I'm not up to date with what her children are up to all the time either. Otherwise the dream could have been written off as a usual occurance, like dreaming about eating.
I have more examples like this from my own life experience, and to me they provide a personal verification that psychic visions and dreams do exist.

what other examples do you have? kids jump off of things all of the time. sure its a coincidence, but why assume it was psychic power?

I've had some dreams that hint of this, of course, some are just the brain sorting and rearranging information.

There is alot of evidence supporting dreams are side-effect hallucinations that occur during mental regenerative periods of sleep.

It all depends on how you chose to view reality, do you go with flow or stop and anlyze every step? Most are in between. What is a coincidence/synchronicity really?
Fluke or fate, it's the same thing, just different words, labels, pick one.

There is also a lot of evidence supporting that physical existence is a mere side-effect of the Dreamstate.

Don't call it psychic POWER, that is so wrong, cartoonish. Lightnings from the fingertips..
It was a psychic connection.

I will try to think of a few other good examples that are not too private to share. I'm going to visit my father for a week, he's having cancer removed from his belly. Well, that may be another psychic connection to mention. I visisted him three months ago and saw immediately that he had cancer ( or hopefully it's just a tumour), took him to the doctors, and on wednesday he's going in surgery. He would have gone for maybe another year with that without knowing what it was, and then it would have been too late.

This might help you in your "psychic" pursuits
http://www.yogamag.net/archives/1981/10oct81/sidmean.shtml

Dreams are really interesting and really complicated in my mind. Most people rule dreams out as conjurings of the mind, but I am of the opinion that the dream state can transport your "mind" to another, higher dimension (call it astral travel or whatever). I don't think that this is necessarily dreaming, it just occurs while you are in the deep state of conciousness where or near where dreams occur. Let me explain, there are 4 different types of conciousness, or 4 different types of waves that one's brain produces during different actions (if you want to correlate these I'm sure you can find a website on your own, but here (http://www.web-us.com/brainwavesfunction.htm) is one) according to the EEG machine invented by Hans Berger (hehe):

Beta waves: the brain produces these when you are awake and active. Doing chores and such. 12-15 cycles per second and up.

Alpha waves: 6-14 cpcles per second, this is where daydreaming, nocturnal dreaming and hypnosis occur. Also, if you believe in that stuff (I happen to), psychic experiences may occur here as well.

Theta waves: Approximately 4-8 cycles per second here. This, it is speculated, is where our "emotional experiences" are recorded and where most psychic activity takes place.

Delta waves: These are during unconciousness or deep dreamless sleep, anything less than 4-5 cycles per second.

Now, during sleep one generally quickly through beta, alpha, theta and into delta for a short time (transition takes like 30 minutes, generally, and you would stay int delta for like 90 minutes). Then you would cycle up to theta and alpha where you would dream for awhile. That process would continue through the night. (This information came partially from Psychic Development for Beginners by William W. Hewitt)

I believe that during the time spent in the Theta area, one is able to mentally travel into another, higher dimension. This is supported by quantum mechanics which says that our brain sees much more than our eyes can process (like having a camera with a cloudy lens). So, I would say that the "astral" dimension is right here on earth, but we are unable to see it with our eyes due to their out-of-date ness, but we are able to see it with our mind, which can be "freed" (so to speak) when our physical body is asleep and dormant. (By the way, my quantum mechanics information comes cheifly from memory, but check out the movie What the Bleep Do We Know for an awesome quantum theory time). I also think, that if one were so inclined, they could train themselves to go to this dimension voluntarily rather than in dreams. Because, in theory, all one would need to do to be psychic is to be able to deliberately transport your mind from beta to theta and alpha waves (which takes years of training and obscene amounts of time and isnt nearly as easy as it sounds...which would be that I'm not very good at it what with school and stuff [becuase I know someone will ask]). :D


Hmm There have been many times i have wondered of this subject. I have tried to convince others of this known dimension. This is very curious though, over the past few weeks my dreams have indeed led me towards old friends and my apparent "luck" seems to be getting better. Though its not every dream that I am aware of my surroundings, I should try to pay more attention.

God, I think is like the particle-wave theory of light....Everything is heading in the same direction, and it can take an infinite number of paths. Everyone has to find their own way.

And as for dreams...I've studied my own most of my life. Some are just for cleaning the anxieties out and others are different. In my own experience, I think dreaming is hereditary, as well as the ability to dream recall, though this can easily be trained. Lucid dreams are frequent, as well as almost out of body experiences. A nuclear holocost dream I had as a teen, still haunts me. It was that vivid, as well as a sequel dream the next night in a post holocost world. I don't think those were prophetic, at least I hope, because similar dreams have been foreshadowing of some events. But just now I realize that maybe it was. I live approximately 4 miles from a nuclear plant!
Thanx for the rant.

what?

dreams are your imagination, nothing more. you probably have a dream every night, but only remember a few. I believe that it is much more likely that your mind filled in the blanks of your dream with what you saw the next day.

Math is imagination too, but we know there are other dimensions.

what the hell is a "higher dimension" like, you become 5D instead of 4D? I am not sure how one would remember that, as I can't even imagine it =].

I hate the way people take things that are not completely understood by science, and make them magical. there is no reason to believe in other realities. until something more than unsupported guesses can be shown, one should either ignore such theories or devise a test of their validity. don't waste time.

p.s. you can't postdict things and pretend that you are psychic. a real test is to describe something in complete detail, write down each detail, share this with other people, and then prove that such a thing exists without being created by you.


Space is 4d. Maybe the mind is too, but 5d?

what the hell is a "higher dimension" like, you become 5D instead of 4D? I am not sure how one would remember that, as I can't even imagine it =].

I hate the way people take things that are not completely understood by science, and make them magical. there is no reason to believe in other realities. until something more than unsupported guesses can be shown, one should either ignore such theories or devise a test of their validity. don't waste time.

p.s. you can't postdict things and pretend that you are psychic. a real test is to describe something in complete detail, write down each detail, share this with other people, and then prove that such a thing exists without being created by you.


You can determine the space inside of a cube without opening the cube. You can also determine the future, such as when your spaceship will reach mars, down to the nano-second, you'll know exactly where it will land, exactly how much energy it will require, everything will be predicted. Math psychic?

A couple years ago, i was having a dream about telekinesis. I have "taken" a plastic box, and pulled it up, its flies! This may cause to i can do it in reality?

Dreams are certainly a link to the subconcious, and may also be a link to help us understand ourselves better. But, have you ever had a dream you swear was real? For all we know, it could have been, I know I've had dreams, can't remember the full extent except the feeling I woke up with afterwards, and the knowledge I did not sleep a wink.

Though dreams themselves are not a seperate dimension...they are certainly a part of reality!!! There is no place anywhere where a dimension exists in isolation...they are never lonely! Each dimension contains every other possible dimension as part of it! This applies to the waking experience as much as it does to the dream world we visit at night.
It can be said that when we are awake we are in a collective dream of consesus...and when we are asleep we are closer to the truth of our being...more awake. Dreams guide us on that incredibale journey to Oneness...from which we came and to which we will return. Also...we use our 5 outer senses primarly in the wakeful state...often neglecting our 5 inner sense. The roles are reversed when we dream...we rely primarly on our 5 inner senses while the 5 outer senses are experienced as vague and fuzzy. When we can balance the sensations of both the inner and outer senses...so that whether dreaming or awake we experience both inner and outer senses the same...fully illuminated and present...we will be free of the bonds of life and death and enter the Eternal State of Being!!!

I've had some dreams that hint of this, of course, some are just the brain sorting and rearranging information.

Once in college, I had a dream that started with a bold flash of light, then I looked around me in class in (slow mo) and took note in detail of my environment to even what other students were wearing. The next day in class it was exactly as I had dreamed.

People can convince thenselves of anything they put their mind to. Are your thoughts in another dimension too?

People can convince thenselves of anything they put their mind to.
Including convincing themselves they know what is not possible.

''People can convince thenselves of anything they put their mind to. Are your thoughts in another dimension too?''

PyschoticEpisode,
Are you yourself convincing yourself of this? Have you put your mind to it?
As to the thoughts...thought is everywhere...omnipresent...as are the rest of the dimensions. There is no place, time, or anything that excludes any of the entire dimensional sprectrum!!! So then how could my thoughts...or anyone's thought be in some other dimension?

If you didn't know...thought is itself one of the dimensions....of the Absolute Spectrum it is the 10th. Another way to look at it...my thoughts are not the same as your thoughts...they will measure differently. The waves in my brain vibrate at a different frequency, the crystalizations I hear as thought sounds in my head have different shapes. Z,Y,X,V,U,T,S,R,Q, and up to P (as in x,y,z coordinates) yeild different coordinates as well as a different trajectory. We are like different leaves on the same tree!!!

How did I become convinced of this? My guess is that you might think I tricked myself...as your statement suggests in subtlety. No...I looked at it directly using a portal I developed...the Mind Portal!!! If you see a square...do you convice yourself that you see a square?

By the way...the Mind Portal is a SUPER POWERFUL 'DREAM MACHINE', 'map', and 'doorway' (amongst other things). Using it will not only cause you to dream more frequently...your dreams will get longer and longer in that fuzzy subjective time (3 years in 15 minutes???). They will become more vivid and more vivid...until they are even more vivid then the 'waking life' as we call it.

When 'awake' you will know your not dreaming because reality is too fuzzy...and when sleeping you will know your are dreaming because it is more vivid and clear then your waking world! And off course...the dreams will become more meaningful and relate more directly to your immediate concerns...the ones that are blocking or slowing down your spiritual progress!

I have decided to not waste my time testing this Portal in a control manner...and I am now offering it to anyone who will ask for it.
Why? Because I myself want answers and I know too well that I cannot get them alone! I want these expereinces (just a tip of the iceberg) that I just wrote of above answered in as many ways and angles as possible...so that I can get the overall clear answer!!!

Including convincing themselves they know what is not possible.

You're not convinced one of us is right?

When 'awake' you will know your not dreaming because reality is too fuzzy...and when sleeping you will know your are dreaming because it is more vivid and clear then your waking world! And off course...the dreams will become more meaningful and relate more directly to your immediate concerns...the ones that are blocking or slowing down your spiritual progress!

Ah! You are the butterfly.

"Ah! You are the butterfly."

And you are the sleep-walker!

I've had some dreams that hint of this, of course, some are just the brain sorting and rearranging information.

Once in college, I had a dream that started with a bold flash of light, then I looked around me in class in (slow mo) and took note in detail of my environment to even what other students were wearing. The next day in class it was exactly as I had dreamed.


For more idea's exploring this theory, i urge you to read Dr. Fred Alan Wolfs book, ''Parallel Universe: The search for other worlds.''

Space is 4d. Maybe the mind is too, but 5d?

Yes... I have even speculated this. You should have a look at my thread: A mathematical model for the mind.

This thread is two years old...new people but are there new ideas? I dream alternate dimensions all the time, AD I say, because the cars, planes and even trains are different size, configuration but they all seem to work...after all it is a dream....

Dreaming....Another natural occurence deemed supernatural, unfreakingbelievable! What's next? Taking a dump?