With the increasing anti-governmet statements against the West and it's policies, with the intesification of jihadists propoganda...looks like the old girl is gonna blow!!:eek:

Could this thread be possibly cesspooled ? Can the republicans win the next election ?

Anyone with a brain(and then some) is capable of becoming a suicide bomber. You are too.
Everyone has an ideal worth dying for.Everyone often has nothing to lose.

With the increasing anti-governmet statements against the West and it's policies, with the intesification of jihadists propoganda...looks like the old girl is gonna blow!!:eek:

no it woudl be to obvious..

a suicide bomb training leader guy person would run miles from SAM, she is too vocal!!

No, she'd like to but she doesn't have the guts.
She does approve of strapping up retards, and that requires no guts, so keep her away from short buses.

With the increasing anti-governmet statements against the West and it's policies, with the intesification of jihadists propoganda...looks like the old girl is gonna blow!!:eek:

Right up there with Noam Chomsky and Gideon Levy. :cool::cool:

I'm curious, do you think people should sit like passive brain dead idiots while their government turns more and more fascist?

I'm curious, do you think people should sit like passive brain dead idiots while their government turns more and more fascist?


well of course sam.............

Right up there with Naom Chomsky and Gideon Levy. :cool::cool:

I'm curious, do you think people should sit like passive brain dead idiots while their government turns more and more fascist?

hunt down Noam Chomsky, Start frisking Jews.. :D...
Lol, SAM, I thought people would have suspected me of terrorism.

hunt down Noam Chomsky, Start frisking Jews.. :D...
Lol, SAM, I thought people would have suspected me of terrorism.

Its typical Vegaesque behaviour. She always likes to undermine people by demonising them. Its her background, automatically conditioned to playing the victim. :shrug:

No, she'd like to but she doesn't have the guts.
She does approve of strapping up retards, and that requires no guts, so keep her away from short buses.
She doesn't seem to have a problem with beheading infidels either!...but then again psycho analysis of her repetitive posts points out to a disturbing spiral of possibilities that leads to increased hatred towards western soldiers and governments!. which is quite possibly why anti-terror agencies worldwide monitor jihadi chatter these days!!

Its typical Vegaesque behaviour. She always likes to undermine people by demonising them. Its her background, automatically conditioned to playing the victim. :shrug:

is vega a bird?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?

She doesn't seem to have a problem with beheading infidels either!...but then again psycho analysis of her repetitive posts points out to a disturbing spiral of possibilities that leads to increased hatred towards western soldiers and governments!. which is quite possibly why anti-terror agencies worldwide monitor jihadi chatter these days!!

and people like spocky dont ahve repeatative posts then Vega??????????

is vega a bird?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? I'm a flamingo!

is vega a bird?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?

She's many people. :) ;)

She's many people. :) ;)haha,..now i'm a woman!!:eek:

is vega a bird?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?

ok ok ok sorrryyyy

is Vega a female?????

haha,..now i'm a woman!!:eek:

No man could have such hysteria and show it. You're obviously PMSing. Its okay, it happens to all of us.:bawl:

haha,..now i'm a woman!!:eek:

yeah i didnt think so

No man could have such hysteria and show it. You're obviously PMSing. Its okay, it happens to all of us.:bawl:
I haven't a clue what that means!, but hey returning to this explosive topic!
You must have felt a degree of satisfaction when you saw those two planes it the WTC towers?

I haven't a clue what that means!, but hey returning to this explosive topic!
You must have felt a degree of satisfaction when you saw those two planes it the WTC towers?

Since one of my best friends was working in one of the towers, I consider that a tasteless statement. But then, most people like you don't stop to think that Muslims are the biggest victims of suicide bombers.:mad:

Since one of my best friends was working in one of the towers, I consider that a tasteless statement. But then, most people like you don't stop to think that Muslims are the biggest victims of suicide bombers.:mad:yeah always wondered about that!, why do moslem bombers blow up their own people all the time?

I haven't a clue what that means!, but hey returning to this explosive topic!
You must have felt a degree of satisfaction when you saw those two planes it the WTC towers?

Degree of satisfaction, no. Realization that this was bound to happen, yes. Realization that more things are going to happen. yes. Mind you I was only young at that time so It took a while.

yeah always wondered about that!, why do moslem bombers blow up their own people all the time?

The research has been done, its all out there. And posted several times on sciforums as well. The LTTE has been doing it for over 30 years. :shrug:

Degree of satisfaction, no. Realization that this was bound to happen, yes. Realization that more things are going to happen. yes. Mind you I was only young at that time so It took a while.

The truth of the matter is, its only just beginning, since no one seems inclined to address it. Doesn't hold out much hope for the future.:(

The research has been done, its all out there. And posted several times on sciforums as well. The LTTE has been doing it for over 30 years. :shrug:The LTTE are not f*@ked in the head with religious ideology! their cause is more politically structured. Their aim is to forge out a soverign state where they want to govern on the basis of unethical standards brought by the sri lankan governement, this is not a result of occupation but merely a dispute between legislature of land rights there is no comparison between them and moslem fundi's!.

The LTTE are not f*@ked in the head with religious ideology! their cause is more politically structured. Their aim is to forge out a soverign state where they want to govern on the basis of unethical standards brought by the sri lankan governement, this is not a result of occupation but merely a dispute between legislature of land rights there is no comparison between them and moslem fundi's!.

The Palestinians under seige, locked in with checkpoints, restricted access to food, medicine and fuel have far less to lose than an LTTE that roams free.

In short:

Suicide bomber = nothing left to lose.

The Palestinians under seige, locked in with checkpoints, restricted access to food, medicine and fuel have far less to lose than an LTTE that roams free.

In short:

Suicide bomber = nothing left to lose.suicide bombing is the last option you say?

suicide bombing is the last option you say?

According to the British documentary on the London suicide bombers, it is the only way that small disaffected groups can fight a powerful enemy. I suppose one could compare it to the school shootings, except the aims of those are more nebulous.

Darn. I have to be 18 before i can buy a gun :D...
and theres the compulsory religion check..

Again. even saints can turn into suicide bombers. If they are angry or believe enough.

According to the British documentary on the London suicide bombers, it is the only way that small disaffected groups can fight a powerful enemy. I suppose one could compare it to the school shootings, except the aims of those are more nebulous.
So what you are trying to say BLUNTLY is that suicide bombing is quite an acceptable last option in order to make a sharp political statement?

when you have nothing left. It seems only logical.

So what you are trying to say BLUNTLY is that suicide bombing is quite an acceptable last option in order to make a sharp political statement?

Acceptable? No more than throwing a 100,000 tons of bombs on a village.

when you have nothing left. It seems only logical.thank you for that..you are now my next suspect!:D

Acceptable? No more than throwing a 100,000 tons of bombs on a village.
Avoiding the question again are we?

Avoiding the question again are we?

No, addressing reality. If you don't change the circumstances that create the suicide bombers, you only perpetuate the cycle


In Iran, Hamas representative Abu-Osama Abed Al-Ma'ati said Monday's suicide attack in the southern city of Dimona signaled the beginning of a new round of attacks inside Israel.

"We ceased to carry out these attacks for a year, but the enemy persisted with its aggression and the violations to the cease-fire. The Dimona attack is a message. That message is that Iz al-Din al-Qassam [Hamas' military wing] has renewed the suicide attacks," Al-Ma'ati said in statement carried on a Hamas Internet site, the Israeli daily Ha'aretz reported.


Now everytime an Israeli goes out, they have to consider the option that they or their family members may not come back home.

thank you for that..you are now my next suspect!:D

Technically, I was a suspect when I was born. If you believe the people like sandy around here.

No, addressing reality. If you don't change the circumstances that create the suicide bombers, you only perpetuate the cycle



Now everytime an Israeli goes out, they have to consider the option that they or their family members may not come back home.
perhaps you didn't understand the question!
here it is once more...just answer "yes" or "no"

Is suicide bombing quite an acceptable last option in order to make a sharp political statement?

Is suicide bombing quite an acceptable last option in order to make a sharp political statement?

Like I said, no more than dropping 100,000 tons of bombs on a village. I don't support either, so I have no cognitive dissonance in distinguishing that pressing a button attached to your body makes you more or less complicit than pressing a button and being able to go home and hug your kids.

Like I said, no more than dropping 100,000 tons of bombs on a village. I don't support either, so I have no cognitive dissonance in distinguishing that pressing a button attached to your body makes you more or less complicit than pressing a button and being able to go home and hug your kids. you deceptively avoid the answer again using the outcome of western military action on moslem lands to cleverly disguise your true answer!
You are not a politican so just answer the freaking question?

you deceptively avoid the answer again using the outcome of western military action on moslem lands to cleverly disguise your true answer!
You are not a politican so just answer the freaking question?

Lets see:

Do you support the occupation of Palestine?

Because they ARE occupied and restricted into a space where they have no freedom of movement, tens of thousands are separated from their families, have no freedom to move in or out of their limited space and are restricted access to food, fuel, education, employment and resistance.

Since they have nowhere else to go, they live in Palestine, whats left of it. This is interpreted as hiding among the civilians. What place in Palestine, where 4 million people share space, is empty of civilians?

Another truism I hear often is that the militants attack Israelis. Hmm yes, they ARE under occupation, so that is not surprising.

Now without arms, F-16s, bombers, pilots, tanks, bulldozers, etc with which the Israelis ,who do have the option of entering Palestine or not, comfortably kill Palestinians at a distance and are able to go home afterwards, Palestinians are at a strategic disadvantage.

What Israel could do is supply them with F-16s, tanks, bulldozers and missiles, so they would follow the rules of conventional war and only cause collateral damages.

What do you think?

Now if you feel that aerial bombing is the better option, I am 100% certain that they will accept F-16s in lieu of suicide bombing. :shrug:

The LTTE are not f*@ked in the head with religious ideology! their cause is more politically structured. Their aim is to forge out a soverign state where they want to govern on the basis of unethical standards brought by the sri lankan governement, this is not a result of occupation but merely a dispute between legislature of land rights there is no comparison between them and moslem fundi's!.

WTF?

If it's not actually the act of suicide bombing which concerns you, but the Islamic faith, why did you start the thread?

yeah always wondered about that!, why do moslem bombers blow up their own people all the time?
I have always wondered about that as well, it is very embarrassing for them, it seems they lack the capacity to be embarrassed.
Further evidence of this can be seen with their clothes and the way they dance and chant in the streets and burn effigies.
If I was doing that I'd be like "shit, this is kind of embarrassing, who chants? and what am I wearing?", but they just don't seem to experience feelings of that nature.

Lets see:

Do you support the occupation of Palestine?

Because they ARE occupied and restricted into a space where they have no freedom of movement, tens of thousands are separated from their families, have no freedom to move in or out of their limited space and are restricted access to food, fuel, education, employment and resistance.

Since they have nowhere else to go, they live in Palestine, whats left of it. This is interpreted as hiding among the civilians. What place in Palestine, where 4 million people share space, is empty of civilians?

Another truism I hear often is that the militants attack Israelis. Hmm yes, they ARE under occupation, so that is not surprising.

Now without arms, F-16s, bombers, pilots, tanks, bulldozers, etc with which the Israelis ,who do have the option of entering Palestine or not, comfortably kill Palestinians at a distance and are able to go home afterwards, Palestinians are at a strategic disadvantage.

What Israel could do is supply them with F-16s, tanks, bulldozers and missiles, so they would follow the rules of conventional war and only cause collateral damages.

What do you think?

Now if you feel that aerial bombing is the better option, I am 100% certain that they will accept F-16s in lieu of suicide bombing. :shrug:
Why F-16s? what about Mirage IIIC, A-4 Skyhawks or UAV's?
You build much of your arguments based on rigid propoganda!

As for your reason behind supplying the enemy with weapons to fight a more versatile battle! ...if I were a military analyst I laugh my head off!!:D

SAM is changing the focus again. The question was...yeah always wondered about that!, why do moslem bombers blow up their own people all the time?
The question was not why disaffected Palestinians blow up Israeli overlords. SAM said herself that the Muslim people were the greatest victims of suicide bombers. Why do suicide bombers, many from secure middle-class families, go to a country that is not their own to blow up Muslim women and children in a market?

WTF?

If it's not actually the act of suicide bombing which concerns you, but the Islamic faith, why did you start the thread? It's the motive behind the ideology for carrying out the attack!...and that's why I started the thread!

Why F-16s? what about Mirage IIIC, A-4 Skyhawks or UAV's?
You build much of your arguments based on rigid propoganda!

As for your reason behind supplying the enemy with weapons to fight a more versatile battle! ...if I were a military analyst I laugh my head off!!:D

Why not? It makes perfect sense.

The Israelis who are shocked at the suicide bombings are indifferent to aerial bombings of Palestine, even though the casualties are much higher and involve many more civilians. In a place where they are NOT ALLOWED to leave except through checkpoints. IOW, imprisoned targets.

In 2007 (up to 29 December), Israeli forces killed 373 Palestinians (290 in Gaza , 83 in the West Bank ), among them 53 minors. By comparison, in 2006, 657 Palestinians were killed, including 140 minors: 523 in Gaza , 134 in the West Bank . In 2007, about 35 percent of those killed were civilians who were not taking part in the hostilities when killed. This is a reduction in comparison with the number of casualties who did not participate in the hostilities in 2006, which was 54 percent, (348 persons).

Palestinians killed seven Israeli civilians (three in a suicide attack in Eilat, two in Sderot by Qassam attacks, and two by gunfire in the West Bank ). This is the lowest number of Israeli civilian casualties since the beginning of the Intifada. Palestinians also killed six Israeli security forces. In 2006, Palestinians killed 17 Israeli civilians.


Obviously, its not the death of people that is important, no one wants to get splattered with blood and brains. Makes sense to me

SAM is changing the focus again. The question was...
The question was not why disaffected Palestinians blow up Israeli overlords. SAM said herself that the Muslim people were the greatest victims of suicide bombers. Why do suicide bombers, many from secure middle-class families, go to a country that is not their own to blow up Muslim women and children in a market?

Evidence?

What's wrong with a moslem killing a moslem in Gaza?

Nothing. Jews killed Jews in the Warsaw ghetto too.

Two resistance organizations, the Jewish Military Union (Żydowski Związek Wojskowy, ŻZW) and the Jewish Combat Organization (Żydowska Organizacja Bojowa, ŻOB) took control of the Ghetto. They built dozens of fighting posts and executed Jews whom they considered to be Nazi collaborators, including Jewish Police officers and Gestapo agents[5] The ŻOB established a prison to hold and execute traitors and collaborators[6]). Józef Szeryński, the former head of the Jewish Police, committed suicide.[7]

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