Conspiracy theories

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  1. deicider got omnicidead Registered Senior Member

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    i was surprised that there is no conspiracy theories section in a science forum
    You should add one.
     
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  3. Plazma Inferno! Ding Ding Ding Ding Administrator

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    Pseudoscience... Feel free to add your theories there.
     
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  5. ScaryMonster I’m the whispered word. Valued Senior Member

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    Ahhh but you’re implying by putting them on that forum that they are un-scientific and therefore untrue.
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  7. deicider got omnicidead Registered Senior Member

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    They are different things,look at wiki cause you confused the terms.
     
  8. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Most conspiracy theories are false for a variety of reasons that are far to complicated to explain in simple terms.

    ie.
    World trade center
    landing on the moon
    pearl harbor

    etc...
     
  9. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    That's pretty much the gist of it.
     
  10. ScaryMonster I’m the whispered word. Valued Senior Member

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    I think moving these sort of threads to “Free Thoughts” is politically more expedient, moderators might not agree with the views of the poster but to label something “Pseudo-science” isn’t polite.
    People can feel very strongly about a subject even a crazy one.
    Free Thoughts is a general purpose forum, moving a thread there is less likely to offend anyone.
     
  11. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Who cares if we offend people? The admins, I believe, don't want to legitimize these sorts of threads by labeling them anything OTHER than pseudoscience. I can say that when when SciForums STOPS making the distinction between science and pseudoscience, I won't be here anymore.

    There are plenty of forums on the internet where you can go and discuss your conspiracy theories and be taken seriously. Thank God this is not one of them.
     
  12. mike47 Banned Banned

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    It takes sharp minds to find the truth and then believe in it .
    Unfortunetely morons just follow the media and Administration propaganda until they become human robots.......

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  13. ScaryMonster I’m the whispered word. Valued Senior Member

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    But are urban Myths pseudo science? It depends what that Myth is, Perpetual motion yes it’s pseudo science, JFK murder conspiracy? No because it has no pseudo scientific context.
    All I’m saying is that the pseudo science forum should not be a dumping ground for just anything.

    I got this definition from Wikipedia:
    “Pseudoscience is a methodology, belief, or practice that is claimed to be scientific, or that is made to appear to be scientific, but which does not adhere to an appropriate scientific methodology, lacks supporting evidence or plausibility, or otherwise lacks scientific status.”

    So if this definition is correct subjects that have not scientific claim don’t belong in a Pseudoscience forum.

    Also I could do a posting in Physics and Math’s about White Holes, which are perfectly mathematically feasible and not have it dumped in to pseudo science even though by definition they have as much reality as the flat earth theory. So where’s the line? It only requires good judgment.

    I think it’s the job of the moderator to read the postings carefully and then decide were the appropriate forum for them is.
     
  14. AlphaNumeric Fully ionized Registered Senior Member

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    Asking about solutions to the Einstein Field Equations which possess static properties (you can change t->-t without changing the solution) and its relation to such things as the Schwarzchild Penrose diagram would not be pseudoscience. Proclaiming you have an explaination for thunderstorms due to the centre of the Moon being a white hole, then you're into crazy land.
     
  15. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    It depends on the content of the post---are you discussing white holes in their appropriate theoretical context, or are you trying to justify some bullshit pet theory? There was a poster here called Reiku, once banned then reincarnated several times (and banned again, with gusto), who would post nonsensical threads about things like white holes in Physics and Math. I had no trouble sending them to pseudoscience.

    This is inconsistent with your claim that a hard definition be applied across the board, you'll surely agree. The current culture among the mods is one of intolerance towards conspiracy theories, and the like. I fit in well with this culture. When this culture changes, then I will probably not want to be involved.

    Either way, I will repeat: there are places where people can go and have wonderful discussions about the Illuminati and the New World Order. You are free to post at those places, where you will no doubt be welcomed and taken seriously. SciForums is not such a place, nor will it become one.
     
  16. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Beat me to it!!!
     
  17. Hercules Rockefeller Beatings will continue until morale improves. Moderator

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    This is exactly what occurs. The moderators of the various science sub-forums within Sciforums are educated professionals in their respective fields and are perfectly capable of distinguishing genuine speculative scientific enquiry from woo-woo nonsense. The former stays in the appropriate science forum, the latter gets moved. If the thread is a crackpot misunderstanding or misapplication of science, it gets moved to Pseudoscience. 99% of conspiracy theories fall into this category. If it’s some other form of woo-woo nonsense, it gets moved somewhere else (maybe Free Thoughts, mostly likely the Cesspool).

    I very rarely see a thread in Pseudoscience that doesn't belong there.
     
  18. ScaryMonster I’m the whispered word. Valued Senior Member

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    But where are the white holes? Show me a white hole!

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    just teasing.

    Yes that's all fine and a interesting mathematical swap , and I’m sure that mathematically you could prove that a lot of things are possible but that does not that make them factual.
    I’m sure that given the right circumstances the evolution of unicorns is possible. But it’s still fantasy.
    Yes I agree with you its (White Holes) place is in the Maths & Physics forum because its Mathematically possible but do unicorns then belong in a Biology forum?

    I just want to clarify so that no one gets the impression that I value Conspiracy theories particularly. And I personally think most of them they belong in the cesspool.
    I’m just arguing semantics here because I’m shit stirrer.

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