OY VEY! Let the political roasting begin!

A Democratic congressman is under fire for remarks in which he suggested American Jews were behind the push to war with Iraq and Jewish leaders could prevent war if they wanted to.

Jewish organizations condemned as "reprehensible" and "anti-Semitic" the comments of Rep. James P. Moran Jr., D-Va., delivered to 120 people attending a forum at St. Anne's Episcopal Church on March 3.

If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq, we would not be doing this," Moran was quoted by the Reston Connection as saying. "The leaders of the Jewish community are influential enough that they could change the direction of where this is going, and I think they should," he added.

The comments were made in the context of a discussion over why anti-war sentiment was not more effective in the United States.

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Also...

W.House Condemns Lawmaker's Remarks on Jews, Iraq (http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=2364018)

Six Democrats Say Moran Should Not Run Again (http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=2371766)

White House, Democrats rip Moran for offending Jews (http://washingtontimes.com/national/20030312-133516.htm)

Congressman Rejects Calls for Resignation (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12681-2003Mar11.html)

So the truth hurts, I take it?

There can never be two of the kind, it is rivalry and antimonopoly.

Iraq it’s said to have disobeyed UN resolutions, ISRAEL also, at least 50 times.
Iraq it’s said to possibly have Weapons of mass destruction, ISRAEL has loads of them.
Iraq has invaded foreign countries, ..ISRAEL has also invaded Palestinian.
Iraq it’s said to have violated international laws, ISRAEL is doing it continuously.
….and the list of similarities goes on, and on.
:rolleyes:

Those darned Jews, with their gefilte fish and their draedels and their warmongering and secret plans for world domination....

hey i like the tradel song.......
(As for similarities at the moment Isreal seems to be the "Doing" where as Iraq is the "maybe doing", which would you take care of)

This particular congressman has shown himself to be a bit of a loose cannon, already, but in this case I think there is a lot of truth to what he says. There are just some things it isn't wise to say. ;)

I've never believed Iraq is about oil and always believed it was more about protecting Israel.

You shouldn't bite the hand that feeds you....

Or did they forget to feed him?

"anti-semetic" , that word sounds a lot like "anti-revolutionary", a word the Chinese government uses to label students who have a different view than the government....


As you all know I welcome efforts of liberal jews and arabs to solve this conondrun and feel a bit dissappointed by those seeking peace through power instead of a respectfull solution.

To them I am especially PROUD TO SAY:

I AM ANTI-SEMETIC!!! Now everybody sing it with me....

Let me just say that there is a difference between being anti-Israeli and anti-semetic. I am a jewish-catholic hybrid, which does not make me exempt from the latest dispatches from the front (yes, our men are currently conquering Macedonia, soon we'll have revenge upon the treacherous slavs...). World domination is just out of our grasp. Oh, if only life were as simple as draedal! If only it were a song!

It doesn't come as much surprise to me that a democrat is saying this. From what I've observed there really isn't a huge difference between the two parties now, is there? I wish that the leaders in Israel weren't so conservative, but, then again--is there really a solution? People have been fighting over Israel since the beginning of history! How can we stop such a tradition now? I hate to say this, and, for all intents and purposes, I have no doubt that a more worthy soul will effortlessly prove me wrong, but why can we not merely let them fight? They seem to enjoy it so much (otherwise they would have stopped) and, as of now, both sides are oblivious to peace, and only care of vengeance.

Originally posted by Microzoft
There can never be two of the kind, it is rivalry and antimonopoly.

Iraq it’s said to have disobeyed UN resolutions, ISRAEL also, at least 50 times.
Iraq it’s said to possibly have Weapons of mass destruction, ISRAEL has loads of them.
Iraq has invaded foreign countries, ..ISRAEL has also invaded Palestinian.
Iraq it’s said to have violated international laws, ISRAEL is doing it continuously.
….and the list of similarities goes on, and on.
:rolleyes:


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One small problem with your rantings. Palestine is not, and has never been a country. It is a region.

Israel was founded by the League of nations as the only homeland for the Jews, compared to the numerous Muslim countries. And has only used its weapons defensively, as opposed to the Muslim nations.

Except that the invaders (jews) were using the same terrorist methods including suicide bombing up until late 30's. A bunch of Khazars from Europe have no right to live on those lands and they should be driven to the sea.

Israel loves US so much, they want us to live just like them. They died for our sins, and now we must die for them too, (along with 200/1 body-count Iraqis). We give them aid, they reciprocate with geopolitical AIDS- the gift that keeps on giving.

Onward, brave knights, to the Holy Crusade! God is Great!

And the Sharonistas think this massive muckup will bring Israel PromisedLand Security? :bugeye:

Originally posted by Pollux V
I have no doubt that a more worthy soul will effortlessly prove me wrong, but why can we not merely let them fight? They seem to enjoy it so much (otherwise they would have stopped) and, as of now, both sides are oblivious to peace, and only care of vengeance.

I agree, we should let them fight. But the playing field is should be leveled. As Biblthmp pointed out: “Palestine is not, and has never been a country.” They are not allowed to arm themselves. They are oppressed. The fighting is one way, “terrorism” the other way. Accepting terrorism as legit warfare would be a start to leveling the field. (sorry for repeating, I’ve stated this several times in other threads).

By the way, quote of the month by Hypwaders:
We give them aid, they reciprocate with geopolitical AIDS- the gift that keeps on giving.

Where do you get this stuff?!! Keep it coming!

Originally posted by hypewaders
Israel loves US so much, they want us to live just like them. They died for our sins, and now we must die for them too, (along with 200/1 body-count Iraqis). We give them aid, they reciprocate with geopolitical AIDS- the gift that keeps on giving.

Onward, brave knights, to the Holy Crusade! God is Great!


LOL There’s nothing more gratifying then to watch a Bible thumping Christian Fundie being mocked for posting such monstrosity of a stupid post.

Originally posted by biblthmp
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One small problem with your rantings. Palestine is not, and has never been a country. It is a region.

Israel was founded by the League of nations as the only homeland for the Jews, compared to the numerous Muslim countries. And has only used its weapons defensively, as opposed to the Muslim nations. Excuse me but I am not a Jew and therefore I’m not forced to replace universal history and geographic books with that of the Old Testament. No other country on earth can make that statement “Palestine has never been a country” , except of cause, the Jews.
And it is because of that fanatic views that the Jew will never, ever live in peace. They finally got a piece of land forced on the Palestinians by the British and later by the Americans, and they didn’t contented themselves with that piece of land but instead invade further and further the Palestinian territories taking away their governance and infrastructure.

I can understand that Jews need lots of space in order to accommodate the 50 million plus Jews that are not wanted across the globe. I think it is legitimate for any culture to solidify itself in some peace of land. But not at the price of the Palestinian people.

Had the Jews instead decided that the Promised Land was in the middle of Brazil or Siberia, we wouldn’t be having the human tragedy in Palestine.

Last but not least and sorry to say this. The Old Testament is not accepted by any culture on hearth as a “land ownership certificate” and neither as “license to kill”. And that’s the sad truth.
:m:

"solidify itself"
:bugeye: are you saying they are barnacles:confused:

:D :D

I better cover my back from now on!

Originally posted by Microzoft

I can understand that Jews need lots of space in order to accommodate the 50 million plus Jews that are not wanted across the globe. I think it is legitimate for any culture to solidify itself in some peace of land. First, I do not think they need that much land; second, I think the pop. is closer to 13 mill; 3rdly, I hope jews are not hated across the globe, otherwise, if I were a jew I would have to ask myself, "what are the root causes of that hate, what is it about my culture, etc. that causes that hate?"; & lastly, that point is open to debate, it's a sore point in Canada, Belgium, Ireland, France, Spain & Americans are afraid that Mexicans will do that in California & the Southwest


But not at the price of the Palestinian people. agreed

Had the Jews instead decided that the Promised Land was in the middle of Brazil or Siberia, we wouldn’t be having the human tragedy in Palestine. actually, they had a choice back at the 1st Zionist Congress, but because of historical attachment Palestine was chosen

Last but not least and sorry to say this. The Old Testament is not accepted by any culture on hearth as a “land ownership certificate” and neither as “license to kill”. My point exactly, otherwise Native Americans should be showing all Europeans, Africans & Asians 'out the door' from the Western Hemisphere. I don't remember Columbus, Cabot or anyone else getting a Green Card to settle here? Round them up, they're all illegal aliens!!! Pack your bags, back to Europe, Africa & Asia you go!!!

http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/about/release1206.htm


Stop Blaming Bush!

This is your guy possibly 500.000 iraqis and a few hundred americans will die for.

But that will be just the start, after all , we got korea and china and iran and all those muslims to be delt with.....

I have plenty...they look really kewl.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by biblthmp
[B] One small problem with your rantings. Palestine is not, and has never been a country. It is a region.

TAC burps--through his hind end ((((F**t)))) and cuts into this typical Zionist. Listen up Bubba, it matters not if the Palestinian's used to be called Caananites, or even Mickey Mouse, they are a people that have lived in your so-called Judea and Samaria for centuries. So back off, you residents of "Isriol" are not the most loved people on this planet--( who to blame, huh? :) ) nor do I think you have a "special" immigration status or preference in the ME, I even think God has plans for you--real soon--and I don't mean "another" 40 years cruising the ME deserts in your German made Mercedez-Bentz's with 19 inch mag wheels and sand threaded tires. :p

Biblthmp continues: "Israel was founded by the League of nations as the only homeland for the Jews, compared to the numerous Muslim countries."

TAC: Yes, they were founded by what is now the UN and after the fact the Bass Terds have stuck out their stiff middle finger at 90+ UN Resolutions--starting with UN resolutions 442, 337, 181 and 191. They even agreed--in writing--to allow the UN to have sovereignty over Jeruslaem--( "Neither Jewish or Arab but a UN protectorate." ), then the ZioNazi's moved into Jerusalem ( literally with desks on their backs in the middle of the night--to form the Knesset! ) abrogating their written promise even before the ink had dried on the joint UN/Israeli agreement--so much of the Jews word, huh? ( Oslo I & II went the same way under the Zionist rabble rouser Bibi Natanyahu, remember? )

Note: The English Balfour Declaration made many changes in the ME, but not once did the EB's ( English Bass Terds ) accept that there were people living in Palestine--and that they should have had a say in these biased Zionist inspired English declarations.

He continues: "And has only used its weapons defensively, as opposed to the Muslim nations."

TAC: The ULTIMATE Zionist lie! US supplied F-16's, US tax payer developed Merkava tanks, Apache AH-64a helicopter gunships bristling with US supplied Hellfire/TOW antitank missiles to be used against "suspected" Palestinian terrorists--my how brave thou art, pal!

Maybe you mutha's prefer not to watch CNN cable news or read your ZioNazi "inspired" news media--and maybe Rabbi Rupert Murdoch's FOX JEWS NETWORK is all that you watch. But I assure you that when the big nuclear mushrooms raise over Tel Aviv, Dimona and Haifa--you will be the "only" ones on the planet that will ask---WHY"! WHY?! WHY?!

I'm getting over heated Bubba--so I will say Adios and may the vengence of 384 dead Palestinian children under the age of 15 in the hands of the IDF/Settler killers come back to haunt you and yours--as you're booted straight to hell by the Holy father.

Amen!

TheAZCowBoy,

Psalm 145:20

"Jehovah is guarding them that love him--and the evil ones he wioll annihilate!"

( Yeah, yeah, you ZionNazi's don't believe in the New Testament--your Hebrew translaters didn't get the opportunity to "do a number" on humanity by naming the Jew as God's CHOSEN on that one too, huh? :) )

Oh Well! :D