They finally made it nuclear. Intelligent work.

One less nation for super Powers to bully now.

http://forums.ratedesi.com/images/smilies/icon_salut.gif

and all of a sudden the world is a better place.

naw man fuck that, i dont want nuclear around me. plus i dont think anyone has the balls to throw one at us. . cuz we have trillion tons of nuclear.

Yay!
One step towards either freedom or nuclear death. Let's see how it plays out.

yay to the north korean people who continue to starve because of this!

Vega:

yay to the north korean people who continue to starve because of this!

Is that any worse than making other 3rd world nations starve, so that you can make nukes?

Vega:

Is that any worse than making other 3rd world nations starve, so that you can make nukes?
Please explain?

Vega:

Is that any worse than making other 3rd world nations starve, so that you can make nukes?

Love the non sequitor! :cool:

They continue to starve because of western oppression. Somebody needs to do something to put a stop to American terrorism.

They continue to starve because of western oppression. Somebody needs to do something to put a stop to American terrorism.

They were starving before Westerners ever arrived.

They were starving before Westerners ever arrived.

Yeah, people seem to convienently forget that it was the North that tried to invade the South to steal it's riches and wealth. And it was the Americans who came to the rescue of the South against that very same aggressive North that they're now touting as a "nice nation"! ...LOL!

Baron Max

Yeah, people seem to convienently forget that it was the North that tried to invade the South to steal it's riches and wealth. And it was the Americans who came to the rescue of the South against that very same aggressive North that they're now touting as a "nice nation"! ...LOL!

Baron Max

I was actually talking about the third world nations cool skill alluded to. The state of North Korea's economy is due to their complete lack of a free market. And their leader is insane.

I was actually talking about the third world nations cool skill alluded to. The state of North Korea's economy is due to their complete lack of a free market. And their leader is insane.

Yeah, and I was agreeing with ...just added some thoughts of my own.

Baron Max

Yeah, people seem to convienently forget that it was the North that tried to invade the South to steal it's riches and wealth. And it was the Americans who came to the rescue of the South against that very same aggressive North that they're now touting as a "nice nation"! ...LOL!

Baron Max

Some people conveniently forget that it was America and Russia who drew a line across a map of Korea after WWII, seperating families and a nation. That's politics after all.

Ultimately though, it's Stalin's fault for letting Kim Il Sung into power.

Some people conveniently forget that it was America and Russia who drew a line across a map of Korea after WWII, seperating families and a nation. That's politics after all.

Ultimately though, it's Stalin's fault for letting Kim Il Sung into power.

Ah come on, they were sharing Korea.

Korea was doing very well until taken over by Japan for 40 years. They enjoyed a bit of freedom in 1945. By then, they had a great prosperous future.
But the terrorists had a different plan for Korea. The axis of EVIL terror. The evil USA had their eyes on Korea.

At the time before independence, Truman was dealing with Stalin regarding what they should do with Korea.
Russians were sent in to invade Korea to avoid American casualties.
America, running the scene from behind took 30min to decide where they wanted to cut Korea in half. The southern zone, now South Korea was under the dictatorship of the USAMGIK (US Army Military Government in Korea).

Korean People's Republic formed against Korea's eltie. Of course, the the terrorists sided with the elite forming the Korean Democratic Party.
The KDP was not democratic at all, of course. The USA put Rhee in power. An elitist schooled in Princton with lots of American business interests. Might makes right over human rights and freedom of the Korean people.

Russian forces in North Korea supported the KPR leader, Kim. Kim had been fighting the Japanese for a long time. Eventually, many of these Japanese were recruited by the USAMGIK in the south. Next thing you know strikes are declated illegal, along with all KPR activities to free Korea from American reign.

As the months go by, we see a police state run by America's puppet, Rhee. Brutal police state installed. Rhee is provided with lots of firepower. Lots of uprising. Lots of killing of striking workers. Then some more killing. Thousands die. KNP retaliates violently at the police state. This in retaliation to the official division of Korea planned by the United States. Not the vote of the Koreans in a democracy.

KNP is deemed terrorist. Communist more specifically the going label at the time. To ween the new police state in, the US military took the background as advisors allowing Rhee to act with background support. No American casualties. Village after village scorched. Tens of thousands murdered. Tens of thousands flee to Japan. Tens of thousands are rounded up into holding facilities. Guerilla warfare escalates. The Rhee and the US conduct their "cleansing". It was illegal to be open or in any form against Rhee's dictatorship lest you be mursered.
This is just the beginning. Today, Korea is a total shithole used to "process" American goods for lots of cheap goods in the United states.

MADE IN KOREA.
MIGHT MAKES RIGHT.
DON'T SWEAT THE TECHNIQUE.

RECENT ACTIVITIES

A delegation is going to South Korea July 17 - 23. Rev. Kiyul Chung, KTC, Secretary General has invited U.S. Korean War veterans who feel it is time to call for the signing of a treaty to end the Korean War or who are interested in joining the delegation. The group will visit civilian massacre sites. More Koreans are stepping forward to tell their eye witness accounts of the killing of civilians by U.S. troops. Visits will also include joining with South Koreans to stop U.S. Air Force bombing at Maehyangri. Public calls and demonstrations for the removal of U.S. troops for Korea will be held.

On June 23, hundreds gathered across from the White House to addresses these grievances. Activists representing the movements in Puerto Rico, Iraq, and the Philippines expressed their solidarity in their efforts to commission the truth and rectify the human and environmental abuses and manipulation persistent with U.S. military occupation. The International Action Center, long involved in this issue, helped in organizing the logistics of the event. Young student activists from South Korea inspired the crowd as did an 80 year-old elder who resisted the Japanese occupation. Two Veterans For Peace members who served in Korea spoke to those gathered in Lafayette Park of the betrayal of lies and their work to bring peace and unification to Korea.

http://www.veteransforpeace.org/press/koreatruth.htm

Some people conveniently forget that it was America and Russia who drew a line across a map of Korea after WWII, seperating families and a nation. That's politics after all.

You're saying or implying that we should have let the North invade and conquer the South? ..when the South didn't want that to happen?

Ultimately though, it's Stalin's fault for letting Kim Il Sung into power.

Placing blame, esp. that far back in the past, is senseless and useless, and worse, just throws bullshit into a discussion. Why stop at Stalin? Why not go on back to the era of the Stone Age and blame the Neanderthals???

Baron Max

You're saying or implying that we should have let the North invade and conquer the South? ..when the South didn't want that to happen?

No. Here's an example of what I'm trying to say -

I take a hammer and break your leg with it. I take you to hospital to get you fixed up. I did break your leg in the first place, so it's the done thing for me to take you to hospital. People won't think I'm a great guy for taking you to hospital. They'll think I'm an arsehole for breaking your leg with a hammer in the first place.

Placing blame, esp. that far back in the past, is senseless and useless, and worse, just throws bullshit into a discussion. Why stop at Stalin? Why not go on back to the era of the Stone Age and blame the Neanderthals???

Baron Max

It was bad judgement on Stalins part is what I'm saying. It's not as if I can dirty his name any more, what's the problem?

Stalin and Russia played a fairly huge part in the N+S Korea debacle, so it's relevant.

Though I'm not a fan of Stalinism and it's hold on North Korea I do believe they have every right to have nukes and test them whenever they wish, as other nuke countries do.

Uh, congragulations?

...I do believe they(DPRK) have every right to have nukes and test them whenever they wish, as other nuke countries do.

Do you feel the same way towards citizens carrying concealed weapons in order to defend themselves from criminals in our society? If not, what's the difference in the philosophies?

Baron Max

Yeah, people seem to convienently forget that it was the North that tried to invade the South to steal it's riches and wealth. And it was the Americans who came to the rescue of the South against that very same aggressive North that
What a total load of stupidity.

What a total load of stupidity.

Explain why you think it's stupid? Otherwise your comment is nothing but ranting from an ignorant.

Baron Max

Love the non sequitor! :cool:
That's no non-sequitur. Ever heard of "outsourcing"? It's a magical word for american businesses which means "exportation of poverty". It basically means moving the slave class to a different country. And what does the US do with the extra money? They use it to make more nukes and other weapons of mass destruction! :rolleyes:

Explain why you think it's stupid? Otherwise your comment is nothing but ranting from an ignorant.

Baron Max
WTF? Do you idiots not ever read?

Korea was doing very well until taken over by Japan for 40 years. They enjoyed a bit of freedom in 1945. By then, they had a great prosperous future.
But the terrorists had a different plan for Korea. The axis of EVIL terror. The evil USA had their eyes on Korea.

At the time before independence, Truman was dealing with Stalin regarding what they should do with Korea.
Russians were sent in to invade Korea to avoid American casualties.
America, running the scene from behind took 30min to decide where they wanted to cut Korea in half. The southern zone, now South Korea was under the dictatorship of the USAMGIK (US Army Military Government in Korea).

Korean People's Republic formed against Korea's eltie. Of course, the the terrorists sided with the elite forming the Korean Democratic Party.
The KDP was not democratic at all, of course. The USA put Rhee in power. An elitist schooled in Princton with lots of American business interests. Might makes right over human rights and freedom of the Korean people.

Russian forces in North Korea supported the KPR leader, Kim. Kim had been fighting the Japanese for a long time. Eventually, many of these Japanese were recruited by the USAMGIK in the south. Next thing you know strikes are declated illegal, along with all KPR activities to free Korea from American reign.

As the months go by, we see a police state run by America's puppet, Rhee. Brutal police state installed. Rhee is provided with lots of firepower. Lots of uprising. Lots of killing of striking workers. Then some more killing. Thousands die. KNP retaliates violently at the police state. This in retaliation to the official division of Korea planned by the United States. Not the vote of the Koreans in a democracy.

KNP is deemed terrorist. Communist more specifically the going label at the time. To ween the new police state in, the US military took the background as advisors allowing Rhee to act with background support. No American casualties. Village after village scorched. Tens of thousands murdered. Tens of thousands flee to Japan. Tens of thousands are rounded up into holding facilities. Guerilla warfare escalates. The Rhee and the US conduct their "cleansing". It was illegal to be open or in any form against Rhee's dictatorship lest you be mursered.
This is just the beginning. Today, Korea is a total shithole used to "process" American goods for lots of cheap goods in the United states.

MADE IN KOREA.
MIGHT MAKES RIGHT.
DON'T SWEAT THE TECHNIQUE.
North did not try to steal the South riches, and America came to the rescue like some hero as you moronically purport.

America would have no reason to be in there unless we felt we could steal their riches. Japan hand been reaming Korea in the ass for about 40 years. After that, we came to drive the Japanese out so we could ream Korea ourselves. Korea has been getting reamed in the ass left and right for the longest.

Just more ranting without any merit ...except for your own hatred, which shows through clearly.

Baron Max

That's no non-sequitur. Ever heard of "outsourcing"? It's a magical word for american businesses which means "exportation of poverty". It basically means moving the slave class to a different country. And what does the US do with the extra money? They use it to make more nukes and other weapons of mass destruction! :rolleyes:

Wrong.
It's called giving some poor bloke a job.
And the extra money isn't made by the US gov't, as they're not US gov't firms. They're private.

And on top of that, that's the really great thing about free market capitalism– free trade. It's where one country produces what it produce well (in the case of developing nations, cheap labor), then trades it to another nation for something it doesn't produce.

Just more ranting without any merit ...except for your own hatred, which shows through clearly.

Baron Max
What are you talking about?
I'm not the psycho that claims that Americans came to Korea to help them without any form of business interest. This was before the CIA. America specifically went to Korea to set up what would be another garbage dump factory for producing American goods. WTF other interest would we have there? To stop the spread of "evil" communism? Give me a break.

What are you talking about?
I'm not the psycho that claims that Americans came to Korea to help them without any form of business interest. This was before the CIA. America specifically went to Korea to set up what would be another garbage dump factory for producing American goods. WTF other interest would we have there? To stop the spread of "evil" communism? Give me a break.The US and it's military liked using Korea as a whorehouse for it's immoral service members, etc. They could hump little children with impunity there for a long time, as they had in Cuba and The Philippines. So to ensure a steady flow of pussy and slave labor the US picked a fight and were run out at a stalemate. The US could prop up rightwing military dictatorships and the Stalinists get the North. The US was also terrified of China, for good reason. They drove the US back to the 48th and kept them there. NK has every right to nukes and should have every right to test them. As long as the other nuke countries roll in these benefits of self defense the NK'er's have the right to do the same.

Ahh, just more ranting, Lixluke? Just idle accusations without any shred of evidence other than your own hatred and bias.

Ditto for Genji!

Baron Max

Every country has a right for nukes. NK or IRAN has right for nukes. As every country has right to destroy every country with nukes.
Congratulations go to NK.
Now lets point nuclear ballistic missiles at coordinates: 40 00 N, 127 00 E.

http://www.indiadaily.com/images/editorial/3161_320.jpg

They finally made it nuclear. Intelligent work.

One less nation for super Powers to bully now.

http://forums.ratedesi.com/images/smilies/icon_salut.gif

and all of a sudden the world is a better place.

naw man fuck that, i dont want nuclear around me. plus i dont think anyone has the balls to throw one at us. . cuz we have trillion tons of nuclear.More proof that Muslims are truly ….special.

Ahh, just more ranting, Lixluke? Just idle accusations without any shred of evidence other than your own hatred and bias.

Ditto for Genji!

Baron Max
I suppose these were all actors gathering for pretend?
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/press/koreatruth.htm

The US and it's military liked using Korea as a whorehouse for it's immoral service members, etc. They could hump little children with impunity there for a long time, as they had in Cuba and The Philippines. So to ensure a steady flow of pussy and slave labor the US picked a fight and were run out at a stalemate. The US could prop up rightwing military dictatorships and the Stalinists get the North. The US was also terrified of China, for good reason. They drove the US back to the 48th and kept them there. NK has every right to nukes and should have every right to test them. As long as the other nuke countries roll in these benefits of self defense the NK'er's have the right to do the same.
This is correct. Even Mark Twain mentioned it.

"There is the case of the Philippines. I have tried hard, and yet I cannot for the life of me comprehend how we got into that mess. Perhaps we could not have avoided it -- perhaps it was inevitable that we should come to be fighting the natives of those islands -- but I cannot understand it, and have never been able to get at the bottom of the origin of our antagonism to the natives. I thought we should act as their protector -- not try to get them under our heel. We were to relieve them from Spanish tyranny to enable them to set up a government of their own, and we were to stand by and see that it got a fair trial. It was not to be a government according to our ideas, but a government that represented the feeling of the majority of the Filipinos, a government according to Filipino ideas. That would have been a worthy mission for the United States. But now -- why, we have got into a mess, a quagmire from which each fresh step renders the difficulty of extrication immensely greater. I'm sure I wish I could see what we were getting out of it, and all it means to us as a nation."
Twain, Mark (October 6, 1900).

What Mark Twain did not understand is what we now understand very well. The USA does not protect. The USA terrorizes. From the Indians that we took the land from to all the countries we use for our slave factories.

What is up with pro americans that turn the blind eye to American atrocities like they never happened or they were nothing?
Just face the facts. We are a country of Might Makes Right. We are THE global terrorist ruling with an iron fist. Why is that such a bad thing? This is what we do, and this is what we are good at? Should you not be proud?

Furthermore, why the hell does everybody make such a big deal out of all these countries having nuclear weapons? Nobody complains about America having them. Why the crap would we go into a country to disarm their nuclear weapons, when we have not disarmed our own?

What Mark Twain did not understand is what we now understand very well. The USA does not protect. The USA terrorizes. From the Indians that we took the land from to all the countries we use for our slave factories.Well Said and True

It seems the US is destined to trade a city or two for all the countries whom we can suspect.

Pain is the master of education, afterall.

Baron:

Ahh, just more ranting, Lixluke? Just idle accusations without any shred of evidence other than your own hatred and bias.

Ditto for Genji!

It's convenient for you to think that, isn't it?

It seems convenient. I mean the facts are everywhere, and Baron seems to just fanatically defend America like it is Jesus. News flash: The emperor has no clothes on. Stop sucking his nads about how great his outfit looks. While he pisses on your face, and tells you it's raining.

America doesn't have to be "Jesus" to be defacto god-like.

It just has to be America. ;)

Well, that's how proAmerican's act. As if it is the great innocent protector, and not in anyway a terrorist. Much less the largest terrorist on the planet.

The USA has been the Evil Empire for decades now. We lost our good guy status long ago. The Decline & Fall of the American Empire is well under way, as we all shall see.

The USA has been the Evil Empire for decades now. We lost our good guy status long ago. The Decline & Fall of the American Empire is well under way, as we all shall see.

I hope not. It may be rescued yet if enough people care to do something about it.

What is up with pro americans that turn the blind eye to American atrocities like they never happened or they were nothing?
Just face the facts. We are a country of Might Makes Right. We are THE global terrorist ruling with an iron fist. Why is that such a bad thing? This is what we do, and this is what we are good at? Should you not be proud?

Furthermore, why the hell does everybody make such a big deal out of all these countries having nuclear weapons? Nobody complains about America having them. Why the crap would we go into a country to disarm their nuclear weapons, when we have not disarmed our own?

Shouldn't you re-think your naive fantasies.

I hope not. It may be rescued yet if enough people care.I'm not happy that it is true either. I have neices & nephews ages infant to 18. The world will not be the same place for them as it was for me. It will take tremendous suffering inside the US for the sheep to react and take action. We are a lazy people and will sit like mushrooms until it is too late.

Genji I think plenty of No. Koreans would trade place with you. Inquire about it, but they would probably not want you.

Genji I think plenty of No. Koreans would trade place with you. Inquire about it, but they would probably not want you.I'm sure plenty of Haitians would like the same deal. Colombians and Puerto Ricans as well as Dominicans and Iraqis and Afghans. Not to mention alot of folks in Detroit, New Orleans and other poverty ridden sewers. I'm not Korean. They aren't Kansan. I still (last I checked) can be critical of the Evil Empire I live inside. I'm right where I want to be; in the gut of the beast.

I could beat Genji in three post's.

lixluke

Korea was doing very well until taken over by Japan for 40 years. They enjoyed a bit of freedom in 1945. By then, they had a great prosperous future.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_Meiji_Japan

In 1879, Japan formally annexed the Ryukyuan kingdom, which had been under the influence of the Shimazu clan of Satsuma since 1609.

Before you make your great pronouncements, check your history, this is exactly why the U.S. was trying to end the War with Japan, to keep the Russians from claiming half of the Korean Peninsula, and you are right the Peninsula had a taste of freedom and a bright future until then, the South fulfilled the promise, and the North is so screwed up it cant even feed it's own people, and spends it monies on the self aggrandizement of it psychotic leader, with a Napoleonic Complex that is going to get is people killed along with those of many other nations, just so he can think he is a Great and Glorious Leader, that Shorty for you.

Genji I think plenty of No. Koreans would trade place with you. Inquire about it, but they would probably not want you.And they wouldn't want me. I'm not a Stalinist.

I could beat Genji in three post's.At what? Typing?? How MANLY John69 :rolleyes:

Genji, yes your are right were you want to be, great food, a good house to live in, no fear of starvation, and no fear of the government hanging you because you are gay, tell me of any of the places that you defend that wouldn't either turn you out for their own purposes, or kill you just for grins.

He He He

Genji, yes your are right were you want to be, great food, a good house to live in, no fear of starvation, and no fear of the government hanging you because you are gay, tell me of any of the places that you defend that wouldn't either turn you out for their own purposes, or kill you just for grins.Hmm. Let's see:

Canada
Cuba
Venezuela
Brazil
Bolivia
Argentina
Iceland
Ireland
UK
Norway
Sweden
Finland
Denmark
Germany
Poland
France
Belgium
Spain
Portugal
Andorra
Monaco
Italy
Greece
The Netherlands
Luxembourg
Austria
Liectenstein
Switzerland
Belize
Australia
New Zealand
Japan
Vietnam
Thailand
Russia
Latvia
Lithuania
Estonia
Czech Republic
Slovakia
Croatia
Slovenia
Romania
Bulagaria
Macedonia
Serbia
Belarus
Ukraine
Bahrain
UAE
Cyprus
Malta
The Philippines
Brunei

No Response BR or John69?? Hee-Hee. ALL of the countries above would welcome me and my gaydom. INCLUDING Bahrain & UAE.

This thread sucked to begin with, then lixluke posted, and my time was not spent in vain.

The thread still sucks though.

The USA has been the Evil Empire for decades now. We lost our good guy status long ago. The Decline & Fall of the American Empire is well under way, as we all shall see.
Hi All,

I hope all is going good.

even though i dont like a lot of the US's foreign policies, i cant talk about domestic polices as i am not livign their. i would rather see the US as the only super-power than china, which could be the next....

Thank goodness the Starwars films have already been made.

####################
take care
zak

Genji, then why haven't you moved?, the countries may accept you but will the Religious Police? and how long before you are in front of a Islamic Judge for Immoral behavior, Sharia' does call for the removal of the offending part.

Genji, then why haven't you moved?, the countries may accept you but will the Religious Police? and how long before you are in front of a Islamic Judge for Immoral behavior, Sharia' does call for the removal of the offending part.

This man shows contempt for the idea of freedom. He desires that people with a dissenting view move away.

Freedom the buffalo way. Strictly restricted.

Wrong.
It's called giving some poor bloke a job.
And the extra money isn't made by the US gov't, as they're not US gov't firms. They're private.

And on top of that, that's the really great thing about free market capitalism– free trade. It's where one country produces what it produce well (in the case of developing nations, cheap labor), then trades it to another nation for something it doesn't produce.
Ahhhhhhhhh... denial....
How easy and appropriate...... :rolleyes:

Ahhhhhhhhh... denial....
How easy and appropriate...... :rolleyes:


You're delusional.

Genji, then why haven't you moved?, the countries may accept you but will the Religious Police? and how long before you are in front of a Islamic Judge for Immoral behavior, Sharia' does call for the removal of the offending part.None of the countries listed have fundie religious laws. Including Bahrain (Michael Jackson's new home) and UAE. Why would I move from my homeland? Because my country is run by criminals does not mean I should leave, quite to the contrary.

You're delusional.

Oh really? How?

Well, that's how proAmerican's act. As if it is the great innocent protector, and not in anyway a terrorist. Much less the largest terrorist on the planet.
BOO!!

Time to change your panties. ;)

The USA has been the Evil Empire for decades now. We lost our good guy status long ago. The Decline & Fall of the American Empire is well under way, as we all shall see.
The American Empire is alive and well.

You're just suffering the inadequacies of the downside of Darwinian evolution.

Im right where I want to be; in the gut of the beast.
Time for the Ex-Lax.

even though i dont like a lot of the US's foreign policies, i cant talk about domestic polices as i am not livign their. i would rather see the US as the only super-power than china, which could be the next
Well it is a good thing for you about US domestic policy. I know much about it because I have to live under it. It is a policy of pure oppression of its own people. Murder in probably the largest most sophisticated falseflag operation of their own twin towers.