Tiassa
09-09-03, 02:22 PM
According to The Washington Post, it seems the Bush Administration knew damn well that conquering troops could expect serious resistance and retaliation from Iraqis. U.S. intelligence agencies warned Bush administration policymakers before the war in Iraq that there would be significant armed opposition to a U.S.-led occupation, according to administration and congressional sources familiar with the reports.
Although general in nature, the sources said, the intelligence agencies' concerns about the degree of resistance U.S. forces would encounter have proved broadly accurate in the months since the ouster of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and his inner circle.
Among the threats outlined in the intelligence agencies' reporting was that "Iraqis probably would resort to obstruction, resistance and armed opposition if they perceived attempts to keep them dependent on the U.S. and the West," one senior congressional aide said. The general tenor of the reports, according to a senior administration official familiar with the intelligence, was that the postwar period would be more "problematic" than the war to overthrow Hussein. And now I think back to Jed Babbin's words last week on Matthews' Hardball: MATTHEWS: OK. Let me bottom line here. They had six months to plan the post-war Iraq occupation. Did Secretary Rumsfeld do the job that needed to be done? Mr. White.
WHITE: I think that all of us, not only him but all of us who were involved in the planning process misestimated the complexity and the enormity of the task. And the people that are still in the chain of command are now dealing with it.
BABBIN: Chris, that question overlooks the basic fact that the plan was not set until the statue fell in the Baghdad Square. The State Department, the CIA on one hand and the Defense Department on the other, were fighting over the issue of whether a provisional government would be established right away.
We could have done that. That would have put more Iraqis in and positions of authority earlier. We blew it by not putting that provisional government in. It’s a division in our government that the president did not resolve timely. And that’s why we have what we have now.
MATTHEWS: But technically, the president had for basically August 29, when we decided to go, to put together a plan.
BABBIN: Sure. And they had different plans. The problem is he didn’t decide the plan for a long time. There were two plans. One was good. One was not. We ended up with the wrong one. So did Bush not have the good intelligence, or was it so important to swagger about this war that he ignored it?
Is this another case where the CIA didn't do it's job, or is this, like the WMD's, the Al Qaeda link, and Bush's disdain for the UN the result of stupid politics?
Even Americans who support this war must be cautious come next year: Even if you support this war, do you trust Bush, who has misfired on every major count so far to continue to lead our country in this desperate and vital fight for our survival?
And yes, the small degree of sarcasm can lend a sense of tone to the question.
Seriously, you may want the war, but do you really want it carried out like this?
- Pincus, Walter. "Spy Agencies Warned of Iraq Resisitance". The Washington Post. September 9, 2003; page A01. see http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45455-2003Sep8.html
- Transcript. Hardball with Chris Matthews. Aired September 4, 2003. see http://www.msnbc.com/news/962267.asp
Although general in nature, the sources said, the intelligence agencies' concerns about the degree of resistance U.S. forces would encounter have proved broadly accurate in the months since the ouster of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and his inner circle.
Among the threats outlined in the intelligence agencies' reporting was that "Iraqis probably would resort to obstruction, resistance and armed opposition if they perceived attempts to keep them dependent on the U.S. and the West," one senior congressional aide said. The general tenor of the reports, according to a senior administration official familiar with the intelligence, was that the postwar period would be more "problematic" than the war to overthrow Hussein. And now I think back to Jed Babbin's words last week on Matthews' Hardball: MATTHEWS: OK. Let me bottom line here. They had six months to plan the post-war Iraq occupation. Did Secretary Rumsfeld do the job that needed to be done? Mr. White.
WHITE: I think that all of us, not only him but all of us who were involved in the planning process misestimated the complexity and the enormity of the task. And the people that are still in the chain of command are now dealing with it.
BABBIN: Chris, that question overlooks the basic fact that the plan was not set until the statue fell in the Baghdad Square. The State Department, the CIA on one hand and the Defense Department on the other, were fighting over the issue of whether a provisional government would be established right away.
We could have done that. That would have put more Iraqis in and positions of authority earlier. We blew it by not putting that provisional government in. It’s a division in our government that the president did not resolve timely. And that’s why we have what we have now.
MATTHEWS: But technically, the president had for basically August 29, when we decided to go, to put together a plan.
BABBIN: Sure. And they had different plans. The problem is he didn’t decide the plan for a long time. There were two plans. One was good. One was not. We ended up with the wrong one. So did Bush not have the good intelligence, or was it so important to swagger about this war that he ignored it?
Is this another case where the CIA didn't do it's job, or is this, like the WMD's, the Al Qaeda link, and Bush's disdain for the UN the result of stupid politics?
Even Americans who support this war must be cautious come next year: Even if you support this war, do you trust Bush, who has misfired on every major count so far to continue to lead our country in this desperate and vital fight for our survival?
And yes, the small degree of sarcasm can lend a sense of tone to the question.
Seriously, you may want the war, but do you really want it carried out like this?
- Pincus, Walter. "Spy Agencies Warned of Iraq Resisitance". The Washington Post. September 9, 2003; page A01. see http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45455-2003Sep8.html
- Transcript. Hardball with Chris Matthews. Aired September 4, 2003. see http://www.msnbc.com/news/962267.asp