Columbia university disgrace

Discussion in 'Politics' started by dixonmassey, Sep 25, 2007.

  1. dixonmassey Valued Senior Member

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    That's American freedom of speech, hospitality and simple decency to treat a guest like that? To ignore reasoable comments&observation, contradicting official Israel sponsored views, and insult speaker instead? That's American Intellectual Elite? Gee, bunch of closeminded, rude, dishonest bitches on jewish lobby's payroll.
     
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  3. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    I have no idea what you are referring to.
    How about the story?
     
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  5. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    I think the Jews had little, if anything to do with it. The rat fully deserved what he got. He also completely sidesteped the questions put to him directly - just like any other rotten politician.
     
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  7. dixonmassey Valued Senior Member

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    Transcript (presidential words only, elite insults and dumbness left out)
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/24/AR2007092401042.html

    This remark sent "intellectuals" ballistic
    And my second question, well, given this historical event, if it is a reality, we need to still question whether the Palestinian people should be paying for it or not. After all, it happened in Europe. The Palestinian people had no role to play in it. So why is it that the Palestinian people are paying the price of an event they had nothing to do with?


    The Palestinian people didn't commit any crime. They had no role to play in World War II. They were living with the Jewish communities and the Christian communities in peace at the time. They didn't have any problems.


    And today, too, Jews, Christians and Muslims live in brotherhood all over the world in many parts of the world. They don't have any serious problems.


    But why is it that the Palestinians should pay a price, innocent Palestinians, for 5 million people to remain displaced or refugees abroad for 60 years. Is this not a crime? Is asking about these crimes a crime by itself?


    Why should an academic myself face insults when asking questions like this? Is this what you call freedom and upholding the freedom of thought?
    So why should Palestinians pay for Europian sins? Except insults "elite" couldn't master reply.
     
  8. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Like I said, he's a politician. And that was the ONLY area questioned that he even made an attempt to respond to. Read the rest of the transcript if you doubt that. Note the questions asked and the lack of response.
     
  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Apparently the way to exercise free speech is to invite people to speak, then insult them before giving them a chance to speak.
     
  10. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Evidently you have never been to Iran where regular people cannot speak their minds freely without getting punished or put into jails. Iran has also jailed journalists for just saying what they saw going on over there and for no other reasons. If you believe that he got such a bad deal then why doesn't he stop trying to hide from the questions that were asked?
     
  11. Zephyr Humans are ONE Registered Senior Member

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    AIPAC is not a 'Jewish lobby'; it's a rightwing lobby for ultra-rightwing Christians and Jews that does neither Israel nor Jews nor Christians any good.

    As for his Holocaust question, he should be asking that at a German university, not an American one. The Oder-Neisse line transferred territory from Germany to Poland in compensation - I'll leave it to the reader to compare the area of that territory to the size of Israel.

    The best part in the BBC Have Your Say:

    "I'd like to invite him to visit Los Angeles. The people of New York went too easy on him! Ahmadinejad needs to face an audience of Iranian immigrants who left that country (and took their skills with them) because of people like him. How we'd all love to taunt him with the happiness and success we've found here! The absence of headscarves, the sexual and religious freedom, my gay Jewish best friend...I think it would all make his head would explode.

    Leyla Salimpour, Los Angeles, United States"
     
  12. superstring01 Moderator

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    Who said that he was given hospitality? He was invtied to speak in order to be made a laughing stock to the world. When the audience laughed, they were doing it at him not with him. The man is evil and was treated as such.

    In the time he was given to respond--with all his limited intellectual capacity--he squandered it on slippery avoidance of issues that he so readily trumpets back home. Very brave!

    He's a pig and was treated far better than he deserved.

    This wasn't a tasted of American hospitality, it was a taste of every bit of vitriol that could be spitted at him without physically attacking the man.

    Well, it's one way. What happened doesn't negate that free speach was exercised... especially in how Ahmadinejad avoided any brave answers to the real questions.

    "Well I'm not denying the holocaust... we just want further investigation"
    "We don't have homosexuals in Iran."

    The man heads a regime which openly persecutes Jews, Ba'hai, Women, Homosexuals, Christians-- hell, anybody who isn't a straight muslim male is pretty much second class citizen in his country. It was amusing to see him dance around at the prospect of people exercising real free speech against him. He couldn't stand the heat and resorted to neutral slogans. Very brave.

    Long live the revolution.

    ~String
     
  13. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    Oh goody, Buffy has rediscovered large red font.
     
  14. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Why does everyone hate Iran for funding Terrorist, when Russia has been doing it for decades? Each and everyone of our enemies are equiped with MIG fighters, sophisticated anti aircraft weapons, GPS jammers, etc. Russia sells thier weapons to over 61 countries, many of them our enemies. But when Putin comes here, he's treated like Royalty, eventhough he talks shit about BUSH and America quite frequently.

    I'm starting to agree with George Carlin, the only people we bomb, or threaten to bomb are brown people.
     
  15. draqon Banned Banned

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    everyone sells everything to everyone else.
    You dont think USA sells weapons? How about France and Germany? They all sell weapons. Russia sells weapons to Iran, Syria, Israel...and other small insignificant countries
     
  16. draqon Banned Banned

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    quote your words, liar. He never talked shit about BUSH or America. He talks facts. Or is Iraq and presence of US army in Iraq to spread freedom with burning potassium not a fact?
     
  17. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not disputing what he said about Bush is correct, or incorrect. Most of what he said is true.


    http://edstrong.blog-city.com/text_of_putin_antiamerican_speech.htm


    This is no different then what the mullah's in Muslim world are saying. But yet, when they say it, they're supporting terrorism against the USA, when Putin says it, it's just harmless saber rattling.
     
  18. draqon Banned Banned

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    harmless saber rattling? and you want something good to be heard towards you when you perceive such an image of Russia and Putin?

    dont expect something good from others if you dont give them anything good yourself.
     
  19. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Bush is allways kissing Putin's ass. Despite that, the Anti American rhetoric from Russia continues. Example, when Putin announced that his latest missle technology can penetrate any US defense shield, what did Bush do? Invite him to his Summer home in Maine! Where were the protesters then? Here's a leader that's making military threats to our country and no one bats a friggin eyelash.
     
  20. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    And for an international audience, too.

    Smooth move. Can't say I'm surprised. I am sorry to see a major university debase itself, though.
     
  21. draqon Banned Banned

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    what do you think they talk about in Summer home in Maine?
     
  22. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Shhhhhhhhh, we're supposed to like Putin now.
     

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