Clairvoyant attribution? (Orange and lavender spots)

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Tiassa, Apr 5, 2009.

  1. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    When one is writing a paper, this sort of thing never comes up. To the other, citation standards for the internet are abysmal. Hell, even professional journalists seem to think a broken link is a valid attribution.

    Still, though, check this one out:

    Hongo, Jun. "Two false alarms leave Japan egg-faced". Japan Times. April 5, 2009. JapanTimes.com. Accessed April 4, 2009. http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20090405a2.html

    That's a real citation I used earlier for a post. Anyone see the quirk?

    Time zones. That's just the way it works out. Since it was approaching midnight I thought to simply change the access date, but I was so amused by the circumstance I left it as it is and started this thread.

    Still, though, I wonder about the propriety. Maybe I should write the Modern Languages Association.
     
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  3. draqon Banned Banned

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    and make all poor children in school write timezones in the citation? get a life.
     
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  5. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Well, the article stated the timezone.
    I'm assuming that access date was yours ? All you need to do is add the place you accessed it from.


    Hongo, Jun. "Two false alarms leave Japan egg-faced". Japan Times. April 5, 2009. JapanTimes.com. Accessed April 4 2009, New York. http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20090405a2.html
     
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  7. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    Tiassa,
    On a completely random tangent (possibly drug induced).
    I take it you have a connection to Japan?
     
  8. Roman Banned Banned

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    Get laid.
     
  9. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Notes Around

    Not especially. One of my biological progenitors was Japanese, but that's about it. I have no significant connection to the Japanese-American community, unless we wish to throw in racism. Then again, I've been harassed or assaulted as Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese (and even had the damn war blamed on me), Mexican, and Puerto Rican. At least. So the racism connection isn't exclusively centered on the Japanese, either. To the other, I've been approached several times by indigenous Americans who spoke to me in a language they presumed I understand. Tragically, they all fit a stereotype insofar as they were all drunk at the time. And there was one sci-fi/fantasy author—who wrote a story about Gypsies—who asked her daughter, who was one of my school friends, to find out if I was Romani. I sympathize with many different ethnic groups.

    My affinity for anime and J-pop came later. J-pop reminds me of 1980s Top 40. (L'Arc en Ciel vs. The Tubes ... couldn't hand you a winner for that battle of the bands. Of course, most of my friends would call it a contest between losers.)

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    Yes. Five minutes to midnight, so like I said, I could easily have changed it but it was amusing. (Of course, I still can't figure out the twenty-minute discrepancy between the most part of network clocks and our Sciforums clock.)

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    Actually, that's a bit beside the point. It would be ridiculous to do so.

    The article was published on April 5. In Japan. And it was accessed on April 4. In Seattle. Time zones explain the counterintuitive discrepancy (e.g., How can I access an article before it's published? I didn't. The difference is time zones and an invisible line in the Pacific Ocean.

    Yet, strangely, for all the citations I write for my posts, I don't recall encountering this before. And then it struck me that I have never seen it mentioned. The MLA, for instance, upon whose method I base my citations (I've been trying to bring the format a little closer to propriety lately) focuses on publishing research papers, reports, and books. Because of the way a proper research paper or book is written, it is possible that they never considered the circumstance, and thus have given no advice; I have never seen it mentioned in any MLA style resource I've encountered. Furthermore, the blogosphere is such that, as I mentioned, a broken link suffices for a reference, so bloggers generally haven't paused to consider the issue. And bulletin-board culture is its own unique beast that seems to disdain reference and citation.

    To the other, though, I'm not sure it really matters. Like I said, I found the circumstance amusing. (I would hope the thread title suggests I'm not taking this particularly seriously. Oh, and five points if anyone can tell me what the parenthetic note means without looking it up.)

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    On a completely unrelated note, why is my thread on Catholics, abortion, and excommunication the only one listed as a Similar Thread?
     
  10. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    That kind of bugs me too..
     

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