Here's a strange thought: a totalitarian government can be a good thing.
It can, when it actually protects people's civil rights (at the cost of political freedoms). But when you think about it, what has happened when the average joe gets involved in politics? People in general are stupid, and stupid people elect stupid leaders, as in the case of Bush II.
The only problem is that most dictators have succumbed to, well, human urges and human power-lust.
A civil, internally benevolent, classical-liberal dictatorship could actually do a world of good for that country (internationally, things can get tricky). Like Napoleon I's First French Empire, for example, or like Haile Selassie's Ethiopia.

Just an interesting thought.

Totalitarianism and Dictatorships all have their places. They're good to use in transition when trying to change the current government and way of life of the people.

While they're in control and are doing their transitioning of people's way of life, it sucks, but afterwards, their way of life is good. The reason being is that everyone is now brainwashed and the same and they all agree with their government. This is why when people say if the Nazi's took over the world, it wouldn't be good, but that's not true. Everyone would be blonde-haired and blue-eyed and there'd be a One World Government where everyone is the same. Yep, it'd suck for all those that got killed who weren't blonde-haired and blue-eyed [rest of the world], but now everyone gets along because there aren't anyone who's different and they'd all be brainwashed into thinking the same. Sure, it sucks, but the aftermath is for the betterment of their world.

Freedom causes conflict. The more everyone is the same, the better. However, I don't want that style of life, but those in charge do. This is why America is trying to Westernize the whole world. The more everyone is the same, the easier it is to control us people.

Those that say Saddam is bad, he's not when it comes to the betterment of his country. He was the perfect leader for Iraq. He killed the dissenters and those that didn't agree with him and it would have continued until everyone agreed with him. Once that would have been finished, Iraq would have been in unity and it would have been for the better of the rest of the country even though it sucked for those that didn't agree. This is exactly what we Americans did when we first founded our country. We slaughtered all the Indians who didn't agree with us until it was just good ol' white people that were left. Every country has had their bad leaders to help sculpt and bring their country together. Limiting freedoms and making everyone the same is how it's done.

Good thing I'm a rebel and I don't want that shit to happen. Yes, freedom results in lack of control, but that's because nobody should be controlling us. Freedom is the ultimate way of life. Unfortunately, there's many people here who are too friggin' dumb and brainwashed and are letting it happen right now, but it is going to eventually happen, it has to for the survival of mankind.

Take Reagan's comment about what if there were some outside threat to our world, how everyone would then come together. Eventually if there ever is some outside threat or we eventually evolve from focusing on just our planet and begin to really explore and colonize space, we're going to have to come together. Without everyone coming together, no way are we going to be able to control other planets when we can't even control ourselves. Without there being a One World Government, our efficiency is going to be crap. You think we're going to be able to handle planetizing other planets when our countries bicker with one another? Heck no! So eventually, we're going to need a Hitler, a Bush [and yes, I just threw Bush and Hitler into the same sentence :D ], or some other kind of drastic change that results in everyone being the same and agreeing with each other to result in maximum efficiency for us to evolve from this planet and into the universe.

C'set le vie.

- N

An interesting thought ehh

ok

Now go find your rocker.

I'm glad to see you were unable to debate or show false anything I said.

Now go find your crib, son.

- N

Dude your fucking stupid for christ sake,, oh yeah it would be cool and it would work except for the people you have to kill , yup yup yup......Im supposed to repsond to your idiocy ?

STFU moron

Have you ever contributed to this forum in any way other than to insult someone for not sharing your opinion?

That could be a rethorical question.

Umm it was the truth....


Ok let me try..... Ummm you kow what would work.... If China ok.... and the USA ok... like we came together and just nuked everyone else , like totally...... maybe we could let Japan come with us... ok... no wait the Chinese hate them oops soory they gotta be nuked too... ok. Like when its just the Chinese and the Americans... we can like co-exsist without anyone else fucking things up ..ok... like that would really work man. Perfect harmony man... kill everyone yeah man. Im soooooooo smart , thats why I post here man...ok

Here's a strange thought: a totalitarian government can be a good thing.Actually that's sort of what Plato thought, democracies degenerate - therefore his solution is that the best leader to have would (of course) be a Philosopher King.

Actually that's sort of what Plato thought, democracies degenerate - therefore his solution is that the best leader to have would (of course) be a Philosopher King.
Or, as the Age of Reason (1700s) put it: the enlightened monarch. A similar principle could work in modern society. As long as there are, of course, provision that prevented the government from circumventing rule of law and from infringing too terribly upon individual rights. As I said, though, we'd have to pay for this with our political freedoms- no voting, no political parties. That could be a problem with political types like me, who want to be involved in my nation's government, to make a difference.

Plato's only example of a democracy was the inherently flawed direct democracy of Athens.
Such a thing does not exist today. We have democratic republics.

Dude your fucking stupid for christ sake,, oh yeah it would be cool and it would work except for the people you have to kill , yup yup yup......Im supposed to repsond to your idiocy ?

STFU moron

Uh, exactly where did I say all that happening would be "cool"?

And please, show me where what I said hasn't happened before and even still tries to happen to this day?

OMGSTFUWTHBBQ..

:rolleyes:

- N