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View Full Version : Cheating...
In other words, if you are / were in a monogamous relationship and your honey started getting it on with someone else, at which point would you say that they had begun cheating on you as far as you're concerned? What are you okay with? Where do you draw the line? First they hold each other for a minute or two. Then they begin french kissing. Then they begin fondling each other through their clothing as they kiss. Then they start taking their clothing off as they continue kissing. Then they begin kissing each others neck and chest area. Then they begin masturbating each other. Then they give each other oral sex. And then they fuck.
I realize that there's great variety to physical intimacy, this is just something of a general step-by-step example to go by. Also, let's try and keep this as a serious discussion so that the thread isn't closed.
*stRgrL* 11-14-02, 06:52 PM Holding someone doesnt mean your cheating. Ive hugged lots of guy who were attractive but I didnt get aroused. Id say when the kissing begins.
shinobi 11-14-02, 08:26 PM Gosh.
My Dad's a vicar and I've always considered myself a bit of a prude, but rather daringly, I thought, I went for the touch through the clothing option. I found that I was the only one to go that far. *eek*
perhaps you should add cybersex to the poll. if i am not mistaken, there have been a few split ups over that
reformedtopunk 11-14-02, 09:14 PM cybersex is a big joke. its my opinion that everyone who has cybersex is a man in real life. but i could be wrong. I just don't see how words on a screen stimulate sexual pleasure. at least with pr0n you can like, see something.
lixluke 11-14-02, 09:17 PM the answer is kissing
hugging someone ur attracted to:
should u even b attracted 2 sombody else if ur in a monogamous relationship?
if u get into a monogamous relationship shouldnt that person b the only one u r attracted 2?
y would u make ur relationship monogamous if ur attracted 2 others?
NightFall 11-15-02, 02:56 PM i rarely french kiss anyone.. you never really know whats been in that mouth.. i just can't bring myself to do it.. especially guys.. so i really didn't think that one was an option for me, although i would have considered it chaeating...
and holding someone for a while... well... i could spend hours in my best friends laps or whatever just talking, or if im sad or something... so that just seemed pretty innocent..
but touching... thats a no no. so i went with the third one too.
fadingCaptain 11-15-02, 03:16 PM Well...hugging and holding aren't the same thing.
When I saw 'holding' someone I thought of laying on the bed in each others arms...so I went with #1.
lordjin 11-15-02, 03:19 PM Cheating begins the instant the thought of being with another person enters the mind.
fadingCaptain 11-15-02, 03:23 PM If thats the case lordjin.....I am a bloody cheat! Luckily my wife would disagree. (maybe :eek: )
Cheating starts when you are enjoying sexual stimulation or intimacy with another person. It can be either mental or physical.
A lot of pornstars are married but they don't consider intercourse cheating since they don't get aroused while they are at work.
Cheating starts when you take a portion of the conventions of a relationship and offer them to someone else. The conventions of my relationship allow me certain latitude that some others don't have. To the other, some people have more liberal conventions in their relationships. I'm atypical, though, so ....
Yeah.
thanx,
Tiassa :cool:
so i take it that all the posters in this thread dont think that having a relationship via the internet can be construed as a form of cheating?
what if you used this
http://www.fu-fme.com/images/f-small.JPG
or this
http://www.fu-fme.com/images/m-small.JPG
and did this
http://www.fu-fme.com/images/man-small.JPG
http://www.fu-fme.com/images/woman-small.JPG
FuckU-FuckMe(tm) (http://www.fu-fme.com/index.html)
NightFall 11-15-02, 11:36 PM that can't possible be real?!?!?!:eek:
NightFall 11-16-02, 12:13 AM definately not!!!
first of that.. that WOULD be cheating..
second of all.. it kinda looks like.. ..doing a robot..
and third.. gah!!!! WHAT IS WONRG WITH THOSE PEOPLE?!?!?
just go find some real booty!!!!
it doesn't matter who you are, if you make enough money to buy one of those things, im sure you can find a girl who will use you for your money just as easily... and those you can take home to your parents!
On another note.. do you think maybe couples you are seperated due to work or something ever use those?:confused:
but i do think they could have designed the female's version to a bit more comfortable (and safer) position.
nightfall
i think you are slowly coming around!
;)
the action pics are wacked. the actual units are the top 2 pics. i presume there will be cables attached
Bebelina 11-16-02, 01:04 AM I would say that cheating begins in the mind. If you allow yourself to cheat in the mind, then you are not really sure if you want to be in the relationship you are in, for various reasons. Which can then loosen your morality to such an extent that you actually pursue this fantasy in real life. You want to test you feelings on someone else and see if that feels better. Cybersex is definitely in that category. It doesn't even have to be sex, you can have feelings for someone you are just talking to, without letting them know it, even that is cheating, on your own promises of fidelity to the one you are comitted to.
I must agree with Bebelina.
But of course I'm single, and can have as many fantasies as I want! :D
Bebelina 11-16-02, 01:28 AM Well lucky you then.. :p
Well, yes, the big problem is that all the good women are taken. So any fantasies I have are ultimately pointless and a waste of brain-power.
Bebelina 11-16-02, 01:37 AM Maybe you can see it as you are practising, until one of you fantasy women brakes loose and comes to you or a brand new fantasy girl comes along?
I won't hold my breath waiting. :p
Bebelina 11-16-02, 01:45 AM No don't hold your breath, that could kill you.
Originally posted by Adam
Well, yes, the big problem is that all the good women are taken.
If you choose to believe this, you will end up creating your own reality from it. You will look past single females who could be very compatible with you and focus on those who "are already taken." Instead, believe that there are good women available, and you will be meeting one shortly. Go ahead and prepare yourself for their entering your life now by striving to become an all-around better person, and you will end up having a mutually happier and more enjoyable and fulfilling relationship because of it when it does eventually happen. Also, daily express your gratitude to the Universe in advance for it having happened. Your attitude will help bring it about...
I agree that cheating begins in the mind. I'm amazed that there are this many people here who are so possessive that they would consider merely holding someone attractive for a while as a form of cheating on them. I've done it before myself, and didn't have the least bit ulterior motive. It was purely a form of brotherly love from my heart to theirs, and wasn't the least bit sexual. And while i've never kissed anyone when i was in a mate relationship, i now think that two people can kiss each other and it be a form of heartfelt love and not sexual in nature at all. Bodily fondling though i think does begin the sexual response in general.
At one time i would have considered french kissing to be a form of cheating on me (unless they encouragingly allowed me to do the same), but now i no longer see things that way. The thought of any of my previous girlfriends having been french kissing someone else while i knew them doesn't bother me in the least, as long as they'd approached me about it and let me know what was going on and didn't try to hide it from me. I would have enjoyed knowing that they respected me enough to not allow anything more than kissing to happen.
pumpkinsaren'torange 11-16-02, 10:25 AM cheating is not cool.
lixluke 11-16-02, 10:18 PM Originally posted by lordjin
Cheating begins the instant the thought of being with another person enters the mind.
thats wat i always thot.
isnt it cheating if ur in a monogrel and u fantasize about being w somebody else?
Originally posted by Joeman
A lot of pornstars are married but they don't consider intercourse cheating since they don't get aroused while they are at work.
how the hell?
how can they get it up if theyr not arroused.
as 4 females, i dont kno becos im not one, but is it possible 4 a girl 2 do porn sex and not b aroused?
NightFall 11-16-02, 10:54 PM I dont know about wether pornstars enjoy their work or not, but i'd assume going into a relationship with a pornstar that one would know what to expect.
<b>"Cheating... "</b>
An interesting word we use, uhm, when love is lost?
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