Catholic church slams Israel

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  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Top Roman Catholic cleric in al-Quds denounces 'the definition of Israel as a Jewish state', saying the land belongs to all religions.

    “Israel's identity as a Jewish state discriminates against non-Jews,” Latin Patriarch Michel Sabbah said in a pre-Christmas address on Wednesday.

    He added ''If there's a state of one religion, other religions are naturally discriminated against.”

    Sabbah denounced Israel's demand to be recognized as a Jewish state by the Palestinians and said God made this land for all three religions.

    The Latin Patriarch said the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has unleashed 'the forces of evil' across the Middle East and the conflict perpetuates because of Israel's unwillingness to make peace.
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  3. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Well there we go.
     
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  5. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    another Zionist conspiracy

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  7. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Sounds like a double standard to me. Why criticise Israel for being a Jewish state, if you're not equally going to criticise, say, Pakistan for being a Muslim state, or the US for being a Christian state?
     
  8. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    As usual you have no idea about Israel , it is a Jewish only state , meaning only Jews have full citizenship , Jews worldwide have complete access to citizenship of Israel . Non Jews have secondary citizenship which can be stripped from them even if they are born in Israel . Pakistan guarantees the rights of of all non Islamic citizens , like in Australia , the head of our nation is the Queen of England who is the head of the Anglican church which puts us on the same par as Pakistan , a theological state , but we protect non Anglicans . Israel actively discriminates against non Jews to preserve its Jewish character .
     
  9. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    There is a difference. I don't know about Pakistan, but Isreal is an official Jewish State. America has no official national religion.
     
  10. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    What about the Vatican?
    Does that country belong to everyone?
     
  11. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    bullocks. most arabs in israel have more rights then i do. go stick this in another place where there are no israelis who can tell the truth.
     
  12. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I've been there and less than 2 blocks away, there was a bangladeshi muslim neighbourhood.
     
  13. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    Your making a generalisation that is not supported by any evidence.

    Fisk,Pilger has said in his books, that Palestinians have to travel for hours to get to work, whilst Arabian Jews can use highways built only for their use , while arabs have to suffer hours of waiting at checkpoints.
    Israel is the only official Jewish nation.

    Muslim majority nations have no problems accepting citizens of other religions as their citizens. Neither do many christian nations.Except maybe the USA, but thats understandable.. although not acceptable.
     
  14. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    what palestinians? were talking about israel, were more then a million arabs are citizens with a right to vote.

    they steal, they fake their elections, they dont pay taxes, they can do almost everything they want beacuse the police is scared of them. they even have job and university security beacuse they are a minority(1 mil minority). dont feed me this BS you read in some book. arab israelis have more freedom then any jew in israel.
     
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  15. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    No, it's a Catholic state as you well know. The small area of land it occupies was not gained at the expense of taking other people's land and homes. It has no plans to expand and take over large tracts of Italy.
     
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  18. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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  19. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not saying that the cleric's conclusions are wrong, and I don't doubt that he means well, but his argument has a gaping hole in it.
     
  20. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    Are they jewish ?, that was the point of the OP.
     
  21. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    arabs? jewish? i dont think so.
     
  22. Vega Banned Banned

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    I don't see the relevance of this thread! Israel has always regarded itself as a Jewish state and the Roman Catholic church had disputed this years ago...so whats new???

    You running out of anti-Israeli topics to post, sidiqqi?
     
  23. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    Then refer to my original point about you having no evidence.
    You haven't heard of the persecution of the Bedoins in the negev desert ?.
     

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