The polls will remain open through Wednesday.

I need more choices!

I need more choices!

You should have nominated yourself so that there would have been more choices. The thing about it is, if you like the site you should stand up and be counted. The site does not just happen. Porfiry puts in a lot of hard work to keep it going. By being a mod, you allow him to focus on what he does best, keep the site going. That takes folks to say, "I'll help."

Good point wet1. I could have run. But I didnt. I left for about five days... And I wouldnt run against Pollux anyways. He has my vote to. Not because he's my friend, but because he's a good person and a great mod.

Originally posted by wet1
You should have nominated yourself so that there would have been more choices. The thing about it is, if you like the site you should stand up and be counted. The site does not just happen. Porfiry puts in a lot of hard work to keep it going. By being a mod, you allow him to focus on what he does best, keep the site going. That takes folks to say, "I'll help."

Thanks, I appreciate your point but I will be no good as moderator.
Besides, this site charges for the avatar with all the traffic it gets, I don’t find it fair particularly knowing the little of management that it requires.
I don’t mind money making but we have too many students and low income here, and the owners are already making enough profit.
:(

Woh woh woh. Are you saying the owner of sciforums makes money off this site?

Microzoft,

I think Porfiry is forking out his own money to maintain this. What gave you the idea that he's making money out of this?

Porfiry makes no money off of sciforums. The choice to pay for your avatar is yours, its to help him pay for it.

VOTE POLLUX!

Adam would be a horrible moderator. He posts tons of anti-American propaganda in this forum, which bashes America for no purpose other than to bash America.

Originally posted by CounslerCoffee
Porfiry makes no money off of sciforums. The choice to pay for your avatar is yours, its to help him pay for it.

VOTE POLLUX! I must admit that I’m not sciforums’s auditor or accountant, but I do know the way in
which this sort of things are managed. You are all free to believe what ever. I just stated
my opinion. Besides, many members and mods invest very valuable time in maintaining this
sciforums interesting so that active membership participation its sustained. And of course, the more activity, the more gain.
:m:

Originally posted by Frogger
Adam would be a horrible moderator. He posts tons of anti-American propaganda in this forum, which bashes America for no purpose other than to bash America.
I say I post the news, and if the USA happens to be in the news, then that is not my fault. Look, I can back that up: http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15253

Can you back up your assertions?

Originally posted by Adam
Can you back up your assertions?

Adam, here are a few examples of your anti-Americanism:

USA: "rogue state"? http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17508

Here you act like the United States is just as bad as Iraq.

Do Iraqis hate Saddam Hussein?
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17348

Well, he has dropped poison gas on his own people, and most of them live in extreme poverty, while he lives in luxury.

The misuse of mass media
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17465

Our allies can't support us? Are we that bad, Adam?


I don't like the Bush administration, nor do I support the war in Iraq, but being anti-Americian just for the sake of being anti-American is wrong. Our government may not always be right, but it certainly isn't always wrong. Protest the war, and the Republician party, but don't take your discontent out on everything American.

USA: "rogue state"? http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17508

How is that anti-American? Methinks your knee-jerk defensive reflexes are on overdrive.


Do Iraqis hate Saddam Hussein?
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17348

I asked a question. Not about the USA, but about another country. How is that even slightly anti-American?


Well, he has dropped poison gas on his own people, and most of them live in extreme poverty, while he lives in luxury.

The USA nuked two cities, tested bio/chem weapons on its own people, and has twenty million people living in poverty while Bush sits in the Whitehouse. What's your point? See notes*.


The misuse of mass media
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17465

Again, it was a comment on the active use of the press and broadcast services to support government policy through entertainment. What is anti-American about it?


Our allies can't support us? Are we that bad, Adam?

See notes*.

Mentioning facts is not anti-American or anti-anything. Facts are without bias. Opinions have bias.



*
Threatening to nuke people:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/12/11/bush.weapons.security/index.html
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/12/11/1039379882833.html

Attacking sovereign nations:
http://www.ccmep.org/us_bombing_watch.html
http://americanpeace.eccmei.net/

Using chemical/biological weapons against its own people:
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2002/t10092002_t1009ha.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/TET210A.html
http://english.pravda.ru/world/2002/10/10/37987.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,65162,00.html

Killing its own citizens:
http://www.aclu.org/action/dpinnocence107.html
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innoc.html

Killing other civilians:
http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/2/7/30418
http://www.web.amnesty.org/ai.nsf/index/EUR700691999
http://www.cursor.org/stories/civpertons.htm
http://www.cursor.org/stories/civilian_deaths.htm
http://www.cursor.org/stories/appendix5.htm
http://www.cursor.org/stories/casualty_count.htm
http://www.cursor.org/stories/ontarget.htm
http://www.counterpunch.org/suren1.html]Counterpunch
http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,622000,00.html
http://www.sfbg.com/News/36/12/ogwar.html
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=12525
http://www.counterpunch.org/blumcasualties.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/15/international/asia/15BOMB.html
http://monkeyfist.com/articles/800/
http://www.fair.org/activism/afghanistan-casualties.html
http://www.commondreams.org/news2001/1210-01.htm

Starts wars for profit, not peace:
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5883827%255E421,00.html
http://www.mike-warren.com/links/iraq-oil-war.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/mckinney0922.html
http://www.oxfordresearchgroup.org.uk/1publications-briefings-Iraq.htm
http://www.msnbc.com/news/819220.asp
http://www.msnbc.com/news/824407.asp?0cb=-315114700
http://www.presentdanger.org/pdf/gac/0209oil.pdf
http://www.observer.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,825105,00.html
http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/iraq.asp

even if you dont make adam a mod (which i think he would be good at cause atleast we all know he hates EVERYONE equally:p) we should DEFINITLY give him the keys to the adam thread, i mean news thread:p

Vote for Polluck V. I have no clue who he is, but James already has two forums to look over, and Adam will probably edit anything supporting the idea that America is working in the interest of its citizens, and has the right to do so.

Originally posted by Frogger
... and Adam will probably edit anything supporting the idea that America is working in the interest of its citizens, and has the right to do so.
You could not support your other assertion. Can you support this one?

Well, if America did not act in the interest of its citizens, it probably would not exist today.

STRAW MAN (i THINK)

u defame adams caricter then when he asks you NICLY to back it up you talk about something totaly different

Originally posted by Frogger
Well, if America did not act in the interest of its citizens, it probably would not exist today. Don’t try to get of the hook so light!
You are free to hide your head under a stone, but please answer a couple of questions before that.

Do you see anything on what Adam is commenting as an action in the interest of its citizens??
Why is it to you, that bringing our government’s actions into discussions it’s Anti-American???
Thanks!:m:

Originally posted by Microzoft

Why is it to you, that bringing our government’s actions into discussions it’s Anti-American???
Thanks!:m:

There is nothing wrong with "bring our government's actions into discussions," but constantly criticizing the gov everytime it makes a move is certainly "un-American." Again, our government isn't always right, but it isn't always wrong. The world would be a much different place without America.

Originally posted by Frogger
There is nothing wrong with "bring our government's actions into discussions," but constantly criticizing the gov everytime it makes a move is certainly "un-American." Again, our government isn't always right, but it isn't always wrong. The world would be a much different place without America. No government on earth it’s always right, but that its obvious and really nothing to do what its at hand. Our government actions are frequently targeted because we like to have our hands everywhere and as powerful as we think we are, we could not survive without the outside world and since our economy depends and had always depended so much on the outside, we had always given priority to the sociopolitical interest influencing it in every way we can.
Yes, the world could definitely be a different place without America.

You still haven’t answer it!

“Do you see anything on what Adam is commenting as an action in the interest of its citizens??”

Originally posted by Microzoft
Besides, many members and mods invest very valuable time in maintaining this
sciforums interesting so that active membership participation its sustained. And of course, the more activity, the more gain.
:m:

Microzoft,

I can understand how more activity or increased membership can lead to more gain if a site has advertisements or a paying membership. But in the case of Sciforums, I don't think there's any advertising to speak of and membership is still free. So I don't see where the profit is coming from.

Originally posted by 1119
Microzoft,

I can understand how more activity or increased membership can lead to more gain if a site has advertisements or a paying membership. But in the case of Sciforums, I don't think there's any advertising to speak of and membership is still free. So I don't see where the profit is coming from. There are hundred ways to make revenues in this sort of enterprises, not just advertisement, pop-ups, adds, data-collection, etc. It isn’t the scope of this thread to enlighten any one on information available everywhere.
I just stated my view and really do not want or expect anyone to share it, OK!

Wow. Quite the little drama we have going here.

Adam, I've talked to a far-right minister who's view are what I consider to be "delusional." After reading your threads, I can now say that I know a far-left person with the same thinking process.

Wow. It seems like my vote really matters in this one.

Originally posted by Pollux V
Wow. Quite a little drama we have going here.
Yes, you are right, if they continue twisting my balls, I think I will just pay and get it over and done with it!:rolleyes:

Hum...Pollux V has experience being a moderator. Adam does not. Interesting.

Adam would make a good admin whether you like him or not.

however, i voted for pollux v in return for sexual favors. :p

Birthday November 6th, 1987

Poll V is much younger than Adam, therefore is not as biased in his view of the world. PV would be a better mod.

Poll V is much younger than Adam, therefore is not as biased in his view of the world. PV would be a better mod.

can't that also go the other way? Adam is older, therefore knows more about the world and is better off to formulate ideas than pollux? no offense to schwartz, i mean he has my vote. but that statement you just made was proposterous and is obviously based off the bias that YOU have against adam.

Originally posted by reformedtopunk
Adam would make a good admin whether you like him or not.

however, i voted for pollux v in return for sexual favors. :p I don’t know but Adam as a good old shy sailor (retired), with a record at unprovoked blasphemy, I wonder how effectively he could be a Mod, but then again other Mods are not that great anyway. I haven’t voted :D

Damn, its neck to neck. At what time will the polls close tommorrow (CST format)?

I want to criticize Adam in the future without him deleting my work/banning me.

Vote for PV, and all will be happy.

I don?t mind money making but we have too many students and low income here, and the owners are already making enough profit.

!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd be ecstatically happy if this site broke even. Never mind that, I'd be happy if it made a third of what it costs. Or even a fifth. It's not there yet.

And don't forget that I too am a student.

Alright, I'm thinking that I need to make some sort of a statement, in order to garner more votes.

Since the 2000 election I have held a perpetual interest in politics and world events. In fact, five days a week I watch CNN for about half an hour before going to school. I watch it not because I believe it, but because I enjoy looking for the deceit that they layer on everything. I took a class back in my freshman year (9/11 was the tuesday of my second week in high school) that encouraged me to question the media, a thing that I had never before then thought to even consider. I didn't believe everything they were saying, of course, but as I looked closer and closer I found that they were ignoring so many things for their own financial and political gain. I've read some of Chomsky and watched a few hours of video with him speaking, you should definitely look him up, even if he's a libertarian...

I'd like to think that in a world of six billion people that I could help some of them out, that I could, to use a cliché, make a difference in their lives. I’m tired of false promises that our fellows up top make every other election, I'm so tired of the degredation our world has gone through since civilization began. I almost wish I were more naive than I am now, to think that I could actually turn things around for the better is ludicrous, to think that one day, I could fulfill a dream of mine is not quite ludicrous, but still crazy. Still naive.

In this forum, I stand for absolute free speech, with the exception of unnecessary (as deemed by me) swearing. I would endeavour to increase discussion, to make it more enthralling for those who would participate in it (by asking better questions, by playing devils advocate). That's what this place is about--debate, and I want it to just become a wild orgy of discussion, a place that you'd cry your eyes out upon leaving and cry again when coming back.

It's easy to be naive
And tougher
To believe

Vote Pollux!:p

Oh, this was an exciting vote.

Finally, a speech.
Would the other candidates please pour your eloquence upon us?

Just read my stuff. If you want to vote, find out what you're voting for or against first. And no, I'm not anti-American, you pathetic whinging sissies.

My moderation of this forum would be pretty much the same as my moderation of the Religion forum. Enough said, I think. It looks unlikely that I'll catch up in the votes before the poll closes, anyway.

If I wasn't a candidate, I'd probably vote for Pollux, but Adam would probably do an ok job too.

"And no, I'm not anti-American, you pathetic whinging sissies."
However humourous that was, I think an actual speech would work better.

"And no, I'm not anti-American, you pathetic whinging sissies."
However humourous that was, I think an actual speech would work better.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
:D :D :D

My speech, again: If you wish to vote, go and do some research. Don't vote if you don't know what you're voting for. Don't take notice of campaign speeches; they are crap. Go and read a lot. Simple.

That is my campaign speech.

Originally posted by Porfiry
!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd be ecstatically happy if this site broke even. Never mind that, I'd be happy if it made a third of what it costs. Or even a fifth. It's not there yet.

And don't forget that I too am a student.

Sooo...Microzoft, I see your balls are being twisted again.

Originally posted by Adam
My speech, again: If you wish to vote, go and do some research. Don't vote if you don't know what you're voting for. Don't take notice of campaign speeches; they are crap. Go and read a lot. Simple.

That is my campaign speech. No Adam, that’s not the way. No one expect you to kiss and holdup babies or even insult our intelligence, but a decent speech its totally in order. Otherwise, how can anyone hold you accountable later? So, don’t snick out of this one, will you!:D

Originally posted by 1119
Sooo...Microzoft, I see your balls are being twisted again. I’m still in pain!:D

Fine, a statement of how I would do stuff.

1) Stick to the Terms Of Service agreement.

2) Stay on topic.

3) Posts containing nothing but personal attacks get wiped out.

Originally posted by goofyfish
The polls will remain open through Wednesday.

Ladies and Gentlemen.....as a neutral, both Adam and Pollux V have good attributes... Pollux has experience being a moderator
and Adam the University of life....

I want a moderator who is not a snivelling,psychophantic, jumped -up,self-indulgent egomaniac levanter...no, I WANT A PRUDENT,INTELLECTUAL, CAUTIOUS..PERSON,exercising sound judgement,provident,indomitable,expeditious,charis matic,piquant..
and forthright........
Ohh!shit!... we have no-one like that!!!!!
.:D :cool:

Ohh!shit!... we have no-one like that!!!!!

I have the terms of service on a plaque in my bedroom! In my bedroom!

So, currently, the vote is 27 to 26 to 17. Have I won, or is there still time?

In a razor-thin decision, it appears that Pollux has prevailed
to become the co-mod of the World Events & Politics forum.

:m: Peace.

Originally posted by IXL777
I want a moderator who is not a snivelling,psychophantic, jumped -up,self-indulgent egomaniac levanter...

one more thing......which one of these 2...

"you pathetic whinging sissies." or

"I have the terms of service on a plaque in my bedroom! In my bedroom!

a jumped -up snivelling,psychophantic,self-indulgent egomaniac levanter with a new home...
or
snivelling,psychophantic, jumped -up,self-indulgent egomaniac levanter..who lives at home///

the choice is yours!!:cool:


Moderator Edit – reduce length of quoted text

Originally posted by goofyfish
In a razor-thin decision, it appears that Pollux has prevailed
to become the co-mod of the World Events & Politics forum.

:m: Peace.
I demand a recount!:D

Congrats Pollux! You won!!! Dont worry about leaving scifi every once and a while, I have my eye on it 24/7.

by the way........the poll was 26/26 yesterday.........and i hadnt voted! just thought i'd let sailorboy know!

:D

i am evil!


Moderator Edit – profanity

Originally posted by spookz
by the way........the poll was 26/26 yesterday.........and i hadnt voted! just thought i'd let sailorboy know!

:D

i am evil!


Moderator Edit – profanity

Where is Al Gore? He should see this, this is not even Florida?
Oh well, may the best man win!! Congratulations!
:D

Congratulations Pollux V.

Originally posted by spookz
by the way........the poll was 26/26 yesterday.........and i hadnt voted! just thought i'd let sailorboy know!

:D

i am evil!


Moderator Edit – profanity

Profanity.......have you seen xev's mail...this bit of profanity is like a christian sewing circle.....lighten up a bit ........less of the third reich...........
dominic

yes and if adam really wanted to HE could have voted

dont you have a banquet to attend to?

Congrads Pollux.

In a way, I am truely sorry that all of you could not have held the position. It was a close race.