I'm a heavy caffiene addict.
It comes in the form of Pepsi Max (since i don't want to get fat).. It has no sugar. I got fat on coke.. now i only drink diet coke..

My question is: What effect will drinking 8 375ml cans a day really have on you?

I love Coke Zero I am an addict too :o

Yeah, Other than pepsi max, and the now discontinued pepsi blue, Coke zero comes third. ..

Pepsi blue? never heard of it .....it's diet pepsi?

Yeah, with a blue colouring.

Diet Coke.:D

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/34040.php

Subsequent studies say "no, it's fine, you probably won't suffer any invasive cell growth at all, keep on downing those sweeteners".

I believe the rats.

My question is: What effect will drinking 8 375ml cans a day really have on you?

:eek:

Many consumers choose to drink diet cola over regular varieties because they think it is a healthy choice.

Although diet colas generally contain no sugar and have fewer kilojoules than regular cola, evidence is emerging that artificially sweetened drinks can stimulate your appetite.

If you regularly drink diet soft drinks, you could develop more of a craving for sweet foods meaning that these drinks contribute to you putting on weight.

While diet colas don’t contain sugars that cause tooth decay, they do contain phosphoric acid and sometimes citric acid as well.

These acids can erode the enamel on your teeth – different from decay, but the effects can be just as bad.

Experts recommend we limit our intake of artificially sweetened products such as diet cola.

Artificial sweeteners have been associated with health problems such as some cancers.

Although experts are generally convinced that any risks are small, some people - especially kids - are at risk of overdosing on artificial sweetener.

So while diet colas might contain fewer kilojoules than regular varieties, we should only drink them as we would any other sugary soft drink – in moderation.
http://www.choice.com.au/viewPressRelease.aspx?id=105670&catId=100576&tid=100010&p=1



Maybe you should start substituting some of those 8 cans for some water. Like redarmy, I believe the rats.

I havent gotten any kidney related problems yet, but yes, there are days that i've gone by drinking only one glass of water and 12 cans of pepsi.. mostly due to assignments.
Ok, So i loose a couple of teeth, nothing thats not gonna happen to me due to old age anyway.

I'm a heavy caffiene addict.
It comes in the form of Pepsi Max (since i don't want to get fat).. It has no sugar. I got fat on coke.. now i only drink diet coke..

My question is: What effect will drinking 8 375ml cans a day really have on you?

Ingredients --
Soft drinks
Soft drinks are one of the most recognized parts of Western culture. Beginning as tonics for fatigue and anything else that might be the matter with a patient, they have evolved into sweet bubbly accompaniments to hamburgers and french fries and other widely recognized parts of Western culture.

Most soft drinks are characterized by carbonated water, sugar, and caffeine. Variations in soft drinks generally advertise either flavor differences, or the absence of one or more of the three main ingredients.

Cola
The largest segment of the soft drink industry is the colas.
Colas were originally blends of extracts of the coca leaf and the cola nut, mixed with sugar water. The coca leaf is no longer used, but the cola nut remains in the recipes that are public, and reportedly is also still in the secret Coca-Cola recipe.

The cola nut comes from the Ivory Coast in Africa, primarily from two species of trees, Cola acuminata, and Cola nitida.

The main active ingredients in the cola nut are the alkaloids caffeine and theobromine ("food of the gods").

Colas stimulate digestive juices, and carbonated water speeds the digestion, and the combination of effects, along with the stimulant action of the two alkaloids, can make a difference to someone who is not feeling well.

Sweeteners
Sugar has been largely replaced by high fructose corn syrup, largely because the latter is not price controlled, and is a little bit sweeter, so less is needed.
The artificial sweetener aspartame is the low-calorie sweetener of choice at the time this is being written, having replaced cyclamates and saccharin as the favorites. The sweeteners neotame, acesulfame, and sucralose are sometimes used.


Flavors
Acids are added to soft drinks for extra bite, and mouth feel. The primary acid used in colas is phosphoric acid, while the one used in citrus flavored drinks is usually citric acid.

Carbonated water (water that has the gas carbon dioxide dissolved in it under pressure) is also mildly acidic (it is chemically carbonic acid, H2CO3).

Caffeine is added as a stimulant, but it has a bitter taste that is a component in many soft drinks. is

Orange soda often contains glyceryl abietate, also known as "glycerol esters of wood rosin", and brominated vegetable oil. These help keep fatty flavors suspended in the liquid (density balancers and emulsifiers). Gums and modified food starches are also used for this purpose. Glyceryl abietate is also used in cosmetics, as the waxy substance in eyebrow pencils.


Preservatives
Sodium benzoate is used as a broad spectrum antimicrobial, inhibiting bacteria, molds, and yeasts. The high acid content of the soft drink is necessary for the preservative action. Sodium citrate buffers the acids, so the pH stays low (acidic). It also emulsifies any fats or fat-soluble compounds in the flavorings, keeping them in solution.

Potassium sorbate is added to inhibit yeasts and fungi.

Ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) is used as an anti-oxidant.


Colors
In colas, the color comes from caramel coloring (burnt sugar).

Red 40 and other colors are used in fruit flavored drinks such as orange soda.

Yeah, with a blue colouring.

Really? that sounds awful. I drink reg diet pepsi or coke zero. I drink water throughout the day too though.

:eek:

Maybe you should start substituting some of those 8 cans for some water. Like redarmy, I believe the rats.

Or switch to a diet soda sweetened with Splenda. Coke has one--Pepsi may as well.

Or switch to a diet soda sweetened with Splenda. Coke has one--Pepsi may as well.

Canada doesn't have many diet pops with splenda. I have seen C plus and I think one other that's it.

We only have coke in our house on holidays like Xmas and Thanksgiving. Otherwise the kids drink milk/water/juice. Again, its a money thing. I just hate spending it.

Thanks for that cosmic,
So which chemicals are the bad ones again.. and aside from longer burps, whats bad about drinking 8 cans a day..plus maybe one or two glasses of water.

Thanks for that cosmic,
So which chemicals are the bad ones again.. and aside from longer burps, whats bad about drinking 8 cans a day..plus maybe one or two glasses of water.

holy crap! 8 cans a day!!???

Canada doesn't have many diet pops with splenda. I have seen C plus and I think one other that's it.

OMG, is that what socialism has brought you to?!? :eek:

holy crap! 8 cans a day!!???

And thats on good days. Usually with assignments and stuff, I drink it to keep awake.

holy crap! 8 cans a day!!???

Why is everyone so shocked ? Just because my bin looks like this after the second day :

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u311/Challenger78/28102007022.jpg

Well I suppose if they really are that bad you'll soon find out.

I was disappointed when i couldn't find a clear cut website on health effects.. maybe they really are sugar free.

* In The First 10 minutes: 10 teaspoons of sugar hit your system. (100% of your recommended daily intake.) You don’t immediately vomit from the overwhelming sweetness because phosphoric acid cuts the flavor allowing you to keep it down.
* 20 minutes: Your blood sugar spikes, causing an insulin burst. Your liver responds to this by turning any sugar it can get its hands on into fat. (There’s plenty of that at this particular moment)
* 40 minutes: Caffeine absorption is complete. Your pupils dilate, your blood pressure rises, as a response your livers dumps more sugar into your bloodstream. The adenosine receptors in your brain are now blocked preventing drowsiness.
* 45 minutes: Your body ups your dopamine production stimulating the pleasure centers of your brain. This is physically the same way heroin works, by the way.
* >60 minutes: The phosphoric acid binds calcium, magnesium and zinc in your lower intestine, providing a further boost in metabolism. This is compounded by high doses of sugar and artificial sweeteners also increasing the urinary excretion of calcium.
* >60 Minutes: The caffeine’s diuretic properties come into play. (It makes you have to pee.) It is now assured that you’ll evacuate the bonded calcium, magnesium and zinc that was headed to your bones as well as sodium, electrolyte and water.
* >60 minutes: As the rave inside of you dies down you’ll start to have a sugar crash. You may become irritable and/or sluggish. You’ve also now, literally, pissed away all the water that was in the Coke. But not before infusing it with valuable nutrients your body could have used for things like even having the ability to hydrate your system or build strong bones and teeth.


http://www.healthbolt.net/2006/12/08/what-happens-to-your-body-if-you-drink-a-coke-right-now/

Thanks , that tells me the effects, which i experience, but in a dumbed down version, since i drink so much of it in a day.., Ooo..coke is like heroin ..nice.
:)
As for the nutrients bit, everyone know if you have a choice between coke or water in a survival situation take water.. but the strong bones and teeth bit.. It should be counteracted by milk.. no ? .

Why is everyone so shocked ? Just because my bin looks like this after the second day ...


I'd be more concerned about that Halo novel. Do you really read books based on video games? :eek:

I'd be more concerned about that Halo novel. Do you really read books based on video games? :eek:

They turn out surprisingly better than video games based on movies.

If i was religious id be saying a whole long sentence with references to a "God" and mentioning some holy quality about that weirdo...

anyway STOP KILLING YOURSELF sergeant SHISNO =P

no really, much as i am annoyed by ur crap sometimes id hate to see you go in such a horrible way. guys isnt there some sorta quit hotline for beverages??

Great post S.A.M., wish I would have read that years ago.
I used to drink roughly six cans of Coca-Cola every day for about a decade.
Countless cavities and six teeth later, I know that it is unhealthy to consume.
Drink water, fruit and vegetable juices, and limit your intake of Coke Zero.

Thanks , that tells me the effects, which i experience, but in a dumbed down version, since i drink so much of it in a day.., Ooo..coke is like heroin ..nice.
:)
As for the nutrients bit, everyone know if you have a choice between coke or water in a survival situation take water.. but the strong bones and teeth bit.. It should be counteracted by milk.. no ? .

The problem is that the acid wears off the enamel of the teeth, which would not be adjusted by drinking milk. :(

Although maybe you could grab some cheese with the coke and see if it helps to keep your teeth from becoming brittle.:shrug:

Another point which has occurred to me is that the dark dye present in coke may also have an effect on nephrons.

So also common preservatives, if consumed in excess; some of the common ones in soft drinks are Yellow 2G, sodium benzoate ( a suspected neurotoxic hazard), coal tar derivatives.



Coal tar derivatives:

Preservative. Derived from coal tar; all sulphur drugs are toxic and restricted in use (in USA, FDA** prohibits their use on raw fruits and vegetables), produced by combustion of sulphur or gypsum; known to provoke gastric irritation, nausea, diarrhoea, skin rash, asthma attacks and difficult to metabolise for those with impaired kidney function, also destroys vitamin B1, and should be avoided by anyone suffering from conjunctivitis, bronchitis, emphysema, bronchial asthma, or cardiovascular disease. Typical products are beer, soft drinks, dried fruit, juices, cordials, wine, vinegar, potato products.

Challenger78,
Here's an Australian saying you might relate to... Harden The Fuck Up!
Ditch the cans, .....Black coffee ( the real stuff)! FFS.

Challenger78,
Here's an Australian saying you might relate to... Harden The Fuck Up!
Ditch the cans, .....Black coffee ( the real stuff)! FFS.

For some reason.. My friends have been telling me that for years.
Straight Black eh ? I haven't had that since i was a kid (and it made me bounce of walls.)I guess you think sugar is for pussies as well ? Will give it a go.

SAM, Will the increased activity in the liver possibly lead to liver failure or Diabetes ? Again this is just speculation but highly likely.

For some reason.. My friends have been telling me that for years.
Straight Black eh ? I haven't had that since i was a kid (and it made me bounce of walls.)I guess you think sugar is for pussies as well ? Will give it a go.

SAM, Will the increased activity in the liver possibly lead to liver failure or Diabetes ? Again this is just speculation but highly likely.

Diabetes has been associated with an increase in hepatic glucose intolerance, which leads to an increase in accumulation of free fatty acids and triglycerides in the liver, causing steatohepatitis (aka fatty liver). I'm not sure if anyone has studied this specifically with reference to the soft drinks. Since people who consume soft drinks also consume other foods, it is sometimes hard to predict what the cumulative effects would be.

But researchers have linked soft drinks to diabetes
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/08/26/MNG088EJSU1.DTL

Thanks for that,
Just to assure you all that i'm not crazy, My parents have banned all pepsi cans in the house after i finished 24 cans in 3 days... Of course, its only a 2 week ban.

i finished 24 cans in 3 days....

Sounds like my beer consumption.....Beer, now there's a carbonated beverage to subscribe to.

But i need the caffiene.. Caffienated beer ? Is such a thing possible ? Can you have a stimulant and depressant ?

But i need the caffiene.. Caffienated beer ? Is such a thing possible ? Can you have a stimulant and depressant ?


Marketing idea,... if I put vodka in it too, can I call it Spudweiser?

If you can drink it without killing yourself.. Sure.

Nah, you'd live forever on that shit!

So thats why russians live for so long.. Even through the Wars and shit. :D

"Aspartame sugar substitutes cause worrying symptoms from memory loss to brain tumours. But despite US FDA approval as a 'safe' food additive, aspartame is one of the most dangerous substances ever to be foisted upon an unsuspecting public."
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/aspartame.html

Memory Loss..Check..
Brain Tumors ?..

A dentist friend told me he can smell the fetid odor of folks who drink carbonated acidic beverages such as soft drinks...they have constant low level bad breath. This offensive smell is different from that from decay. He says the stench is in the cells of soft tissues.

Memory Loss..Check..
Brain Tumors ?..

Not guaranteed, obviously, but there is a high risk, given time. Best to wean yourself off artificially sweetened drinks and switch to carbonated or plain water or better still, green tea.

I'll second the green tea. It contains several polyphenolic compounds that aid immunity and foster health.

Also, I would suggest using the tea itself rather than extracts. Under natural conditions, less than 1% of tea polyphenols are absorbed; some kinds are not absorbed at all. We don't know why most of them are kicked back out into the colon, but there may be physiological reasons for the poor absorption. Extracts would concentrate the effects of these polyphenols and there are inadequate toxicity studies to indicate safety. (natural != safe).

And don't add milk to your tea--it seems to eliminate the anti-oxident effects.

Is there any difference between Iced Tea and hot tea?

Is there any difference between Iced Tea and hot tea?

Temperature :D

Lol

I'm a heavy caffiene addict. It comes in the form of Pepsi Max (since i don't want to get fat).. It has no sugar. I got fat on coke. Now I only drink diet coke. My question is: What effect will drinking 8 375ml cans a day really have on you?That's a lot of caffeine. I know heavy drinkers of coffee or tea get the same dose, but it's a lot for them too. Caffeine is a vasoconstrictor, which means it narrows your blood vessels. This is why it is a mild analgesic, it simply reduces the blood flow to your pain receptor nerves so it dulls them. Actually more properly called anesthetic than analgesic. This same property can also make it a very mild antihistamine because much of the histamic reaction is swollen capillaries. However, the obvious primary effect of reducing the cross section of your veins and arteries is an increase in blood pressure. Keep track of your blood pressure and if it starts to get too high then you'll have to make some tough decisions.

But your biggest problem is probably one I'm quite familiar with personally: caffeine addiction. It sounds like you're as bad as I am. I had to start backing off 35 years ago because it was interfering with my sleep. Not getting enough sleep coupled with the stimulant effect of the drug made me a real asshole. I flunked out of college, my wife left me, it was a pretty sad period in my life. So keep track of your sleep, your relationships and your performance. Let those close to you do the same thing. I've had to ration my caffeine intake for decades and I go without for days at a time to avoid rebuilding my tolerance and becoming dependent on it again.

You will be better off if you can learn to live without caffeine. That may prove impossible, but you will still be better off if you can reduce it by a lot. Eight cans a day is just plain stupid, nobody "needs" that much caffeine. You're basically a drug addict. (As your elder I can get away saying shit like that. But it's the truth, dude. :))In The First 10 minutes: 10 teaspoons of sugar hit your system.Yeah but he said he's drinking the sugar-free formula. His biggest problem is either the caffeine itself or the unpredictable second-order effects of the artificial sweetener.I used to drink roughly six cans of Coca-Cola every day for about a decade. Countless cavities and six teeth later, I know that it is unhealthy to consume.Today dentists tell us that as long as we practice rigorous dental hygeine--brush twice a day, floss, use a proxybrush, get fluoride in our water or a prescription toothpaste--sugar is not really going to send their kids to college.But i need the caffeine. Caffeinated beer ? Is such a thing possible ? Can you have a stimulant and depressant ?Why do you think Rum & Coke is such a popular drink? Long Island Iced Tea is the same idea but for younger people: more booze, less cola. Alcohol is not just a depressant, it has a number of psychoactive effects like releasing inhibitions, making all people of the opposite sex really attractive, and creating an intense desire for bowling and country music.Is there any difference between Iced Tea and hot tea?Coldness dulls our taste buds so people put a lot more sugar or other sweetener in iced tea than they do in hot tea. I'm sure the temperature affects the rate of absorption of all the chemicals, Sam can probably give us the figures on that.

Try chocolate. It has less caffeine and more theobroma. I mean the good stuff, made from dark chocolate imported from France or Belgium, not the wimpy Hershey's or Cadbury's that's just a pile of stuff under a thin coating of milk chocolate. You might find that it makes you feel good without raising your blood pressure or any of the other side effects of a high caffeine intake. Yes it has sugar so buy chocolate that has the percentage listed and make sure it's up around 80 so it's more chocolate and less sugar and other stuff.

phenelanin as I remember mainly causes problems in intestine...you often have to go to pee...and than kidneys get some damage as well. Also it affects the vision a bit...makes things fuzzy and makes eyes tired. As for memory loss...thats only with those folks who got syndroms/major problems...not regular folks like us.

I'm in no danger of becoming an alchaholic, Even if my religion didn't forbid it, I've seen what it can do to people and how they change..
Tried my first taste of green tea today.. Didn't taste bad, just different. I guess its because of the tolerance that i wouldn't take to it immediately.

And yeah Fraggle, I probably am a drug addict... According to my parents, I've been fed coke since i was old enough to drink..