There is so much negative in reality: suffering, disease, war, hunger, scarcity, et cetera Indeed, reality is, in a way, boring and sad. So, if we could create a perfect world, should we? And how? I mean, technologically. Take the example in "The Matrix"; the entire world of the Matrix is an artificial simulation that seems real to its inhabitants. The world in the Matrix is much like the world in real life, but with that sort of technology, couldn't we make it perfect? In other words, can't we create simulations of paradise, and live in them and never know the difference? How would this be done, technologically? It'd be great, though. Every man can have his own paradise where he is given everything he wants. We would need to ensure that our physical bodies would be given nutrition and everything else vital to life; and after that, we could create people that never knew of the real world, so they'd think the perfect world IS the real world. Then, wouldn't that be paradise? Could we do that? And if we could: would you rather live in a fake world that is paradise (and you don't know it's fake), or live in the real world?
Are you going to live in it by yourself, and all the other people are holograms? Or is everybody going to live in it together? I'm asking because as you surely know, the reason we don't haver paradise right now is all those other people.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
No we cannot because there's no such thing as perfect for what might be perfect to you isn't perfect to many others. The best we can do is just try to get along and find ways of cooperate with each other.
First we have to agree upon what heaven is, or leave the task up someone who seems to know what's best for everybody.
Which we cannot do, as some people will have opposing visions. Norsefire likely will still want there to be perfect markets (and perfectly free markets, at that), whereas most people's visions of utopia feature no economic wants at all, with everything we want being handed to you without effort for free. I would want to live in a world with a high degree of frictionless diversity, others would want a world that only their chosen race lived in. L'enfer, c'est les autres. Even if we could overcome the conflicting desires, weather, geology,m physics in general (including the fact that the oceans will evaporate in the next billion years), makes the Earth less than an ideal Heaven.
If i had the power to execute my plan (which woud be made up of simulatons)... everbodys needs woud be met.. an yes... even all the posters here at Sciforums... lol... an yes... i woud choose to live in such a "fake" world.!!!
I don't think it would be a problem if people disagree on what "paradise" is....... We could just have AI "people" in each man's version of paradise, making it more of a paradise. Panda, I wouldn't want a "free market" in my paradise! That's what I want in the real world bound by real logic. In paradise, I would want a mansion with luxurious food and drink, and blondes as far as the eye can see.
Can we create heaven on Earth? NO...unless you live inside the computer and change your personal reality as you like...to create your own heaven. That can happen in 100 years... So, what type of heaven is your preference? I need the specs to design the computer...Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Can we create heaven on Earth? step one. get rid of religion Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Well, wouldn't it be always exciting and fun by definition? People say that paradise would be boring, but by definition it couldn't be boring. It's paradise!
oK... but by that line of reasonin individual desires woudnt need to be met (such as the blonds)... jus make-it-so that everbody esperiences the sinsaton of paridice... yes.???
Funny thing, that kind of world would be stagnant and dead. No real challenges to face, no real people to interact with? We might as well announce that Paradise is life in a zoo, where we're free to get fat and indulge. Life is not about happiness. If it were, we would have evolved into a state where we are chemically put into a state of constant bliss. Instead, that kind of high is a rare state that we strive for. For me, without the struggle, what's the point? I don't begrudge you your simulation, though. You go in and I won't, and then in future generations, my descendants can use yours as living batteries, Matrix-style. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
There's the first problem. Instant gratification of wants is not as simple as you make it out to be. The trick is to destroy wants, not to indulge and addict them to things. Paradise is not me, smoking habitually for thousands of years, or becoming 3000 pounds, or getting to level 80 in WoW in 3 days. These are products of desire, of wanting things, and that's what the world is now. Paradise would be the opposite - nothing to want.
If you coud play a "simulaton-game" whare you coud esperience anythang you disire an it woud seem "real"... woud you do it.??? I thank that basic idea is on the way... ie... i dout that even you intentionaly choose paths that lead to un-happyness.!!! No prollem... the simulaton coud include as much "struggle" as you desire.!!!
