What are your thoughts?

The truth can't be negotiated until you know what it is! And that's been a goal of humans since they began to walk upright on the African plains.

Baron Max

The truth can't be negotiated until you know what it is! And that's been a goal of humans since they began to walk upright on the African plains.

Baron Max

So how do we know what the truth is?

What are your thoughts?No the truth wins by majority.

In the past the majority believed in a flat earth and so the flat earth existed.

If I gather a few retards who all belief in the rapture and close them off in a room then the rapture becomes truth within that room.

I love Wikpedia because there the people decide what is fact and what is fiction.
I’m sure the universe gives a shit.

So how do we know what the truth is?

Well, Joe in California thinks he knows what truth is, but then Mike in NYC thinks it's something else, while Abdullah in Iran is sure that the truth is different to both of them.

I know what truth is, and so do you. If we just never mention what it is to anyone, then everything is fine and we don't have to negotiate a damned thing.

Baron Max

No - truth is objective. It is the same for all people, at all times, in all places. Either something is or it is not.

This is what people are doing in web forums, esp. politics. My truth is right, yours is bullshit.
Can the ultimate truth be known?

No - truth is objective. It is the same for all people, at all times, in all places. Either something is or it is not.

I don't see how that can be, Prince James ...with all of the conflicts in the world, how can truth of those situations be the same for all people?

I'm afraid that I must agree with Mindtrick, "I'm right and you're wrong!" is the most thought of phrase in the history of mankind.

I will agree, however, that there just might be some "truths" in the world, but I sure don't know many of them, do you?

Baron Max

Baron Max:

Conflict is not about truth and falsehood. Rather, it is about advantage and disadvantage.

Other conflicts rest not on the truth of the statement, but belief in it. Religious ones are are of these nature, where people claim truth to that which they are not justified to claim as such.

Regarding the degree of truth in the world, we can say this:

1. There are empirical truths - I go to the store, the current US legal code mandates Miranda Rights, et cetera.

2. There are analytic truths, such as a square-circle being impossible, or the laws of logic.

In as much as these classify all things, save perhaps moral or political principles (which would have to show some objective basis to be true or false), we are left with aw orld brimming with truth.

I know what truth is, and so do you. If we just never mention what it is to anyone, then everything is fine and we don't have to negotiate a damned thing.

Baron Max

I would agree. But it seems that interaction would be more productive or constructive if we all spoke our minds, but didn't get upset at other people's conjectures. Like that will ever happen...

You cannot negotiate the truth. You CAN negotiate your opinions of it.