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Kumar
12-04-05, 02:11 AM
Hello,

Skeptics contribute/look so much in other's life and systems. I just thought to look in to them bit deeply.:)

Skeptics, pro-conventional system discuss too much adversities about homeopathy and other CAMs at many science/skeptic’s forums. Becoming reasonably skeptic in any system can be okay but becoming undue over-skeptic and anti-genic to any mass existing system which is observed and experienced by million of people all over the world since long with least adversities by its community as wells becoming excess and undue believer in their pro-system/s may effect them something first emotionally than probably psycho/phisio-logically.

"Excess of anything/everything is said and considered as bad"

Can you evaluate emotions caused by practicing undue and over-skepticism and their emotional, psycho/phsio-logical impact on their health and on whole humanity in general?

Emotions: Mis/dis-belief, egoistic superiorities, contradictions, obstinations, desire to harm/kill, doubting nature, self centeredness, selfishness, always looking into others/other dishes, penetrating habits, interferences in other's matters, Mis/dis-belief in their own beings and things, over-belief and blind-faiths in pro-system once satisfied whereas anti against other, over-involvements, biased attitude etc. can be some emotions which they may commonly get and encounter in their day to day life. Can add and evaluate this impact or effect on their health and on humanity. :)

1. In short, to evaluate and research over-skepticism impact on skeptics, humanity and homeopathy's health?

Can healing agents, CMs in which they believe rather over-believe cause excess effects+side effects than normal or dis-believer in those on one hand and lesser efects of other systems in which they disbelieve and oppose on other hand?

Best wishes

Kumar
12-06-05, 08:11 AM
For many people, negative emotions have become a way of life for so long, they don't realize why happiness perpetually eludes them.

Think positively. Another important key is to think positively, realizing that we all encounter setbacks and obstacles in life. Brooding about them is not the answer. If we rise above self-pity, think positively and learn from our experiences, we can turn a bad experience into a good one.

Negative emotions

Thoughts can cause physical abnormalities such as ulcers, indigestion, nervousness and high blood pressure. Thoughts can also depress the immune system, which leads to a wide variety of diseases. Experiencing poor health, and how soon, depends on each person’s heredity, environment, diet and behavior.

An Australian study in the late 1970s showed that when one spouse dies, the other experiences a weakened immune system. This helps explain why grieving spouses have more diseases and a higher death rate than others of similar age.

Other studies have shown that heart patients who are depressed have more heart problems than happier heart patients; depression was a better predictor of problems than physical measurements were.

Cancer is more common in people who suffer a major emotional loss, repress anger and feel helpless. Cancer patients who express their emotions rather than denying them seem to recover more often. The link between emotion and cancer is so strong that some psychological tests are better predictors of cancer than physical exams are.

This does not mean that everyone who has cancer or some other disease has simply thought it upon himself. There are many factors involved in disease; even the best attitude is not going to prevent ill effects from genetic malfunctions and some chemical and biological hazards.

Positive emotions

If negative emotions can weaken the body’s resistance, it is logical that positive emotions might strengthen it, or at least permit it to work as well as it should.

"There is little hard evidence that attitude alone can cure serious disease. There is, however, some real evidence that people can voluntarily improve their own immune function and thus prevent disease" ("The Healing Brain," Psychology Today, March 1987, page 51).

Attitude helps, though, in recovery. In London, cancer patients who had a "fighting spirit" had a 10-year survival rate of 75 percent. Patients who simply accepted the cancer had a rate of only 22 percent. Hope and a strong desire to live are better than helplessness.

Love also has good results. People who are "in love" have more responsive immune systems. Children grow faster in a loving environment; emotionally deprived children develop poorly. Men who have loving wives have a lower risk of chest pains.

"Human companionship can have a marvelous effect on those who are ill. That is, after all, one reason why most of us feel it is important to visit friends and relatives who are hospitalized; we know that such visits speed recovery" (Leonard Sagan, The Health of Nations, page 129).

People who have strong, stable social connections remain healthier. Married people have fewer diseases, survive cancer better and live longer than the unmarried. Families can improve attitudes, give loved ones reason to live, and help with physical needs.

Faith is also powerful. Patients given a placebo – a drug or treatment with no effect – report improvements about a third of the time. In some treatments, the placebo effect is the main source of value. Bitter placebos work better than pleasant ones; injections work better than pills. The important part is that the patient believes that the treatment will work.

In one study of people who survived supposedly incurable cancers, the survivors all had faith in something (in doctors, in medical science or in God); this helped them maintain hope and avoid helplessness.

Do faith, hope and love sound "unscientific"? If so, it is not that such feelings do not exist – it is that science has not yet learned enough about them. But there is a source of additional information that accurately tells us which emotions are helpful and which are harmful.
http://www.wcg.org/lit/booklets/sane/emotions.htm

allisone417
12-07-05, 04:22 PM
mind affects body. always.

allisone417
12-07-05, 04:23 PM
visa versa, also.

leopold99
12-07-05, 05:46 PM
i'm a skeptic. what do you want to know? the only problems i have are with people who expect me to "fall in line" and get pissed when i don't.

Kumar
12-07-05, 11:10 PM
Because Prevailing modern amosphere(PMA) can also result to addiction/excess on anything. I am trying to understasnd, are we becoming excess skeptic/pro/believer or not due to PMA? Eg; if addicted/pro/believe in excess to CMs and otherside to CAMs, can we then get more effects+side effects from CMs and lesser from CAMs? ;)

Raithere
12-08-05, 11:39 AM
Because Prevailing modern amosphere(PMA) can also result to addiction/excess on anything. I am trying to understasnd, are we becoming excess skeptic/pro/believer or not due to PMA? Eg; if addicted/pro/believe in excess to CMs and otherside to CAMs, can we then get more effects+side effects from CMs and lesser from CAMs? ;)Being a skeptic or not has nothing to do with whether or not one holds a generally positive or negative attitude. There are plenty of skeptics who are generally happy and emotionally positive and many "believers" who have very negative outlooks on life.

What, by the way, do "CM" and "CAM" stand for? You gave no definition.

~Raithere

Kumar
12-12-05, 08:45 PM
Conventional Medicines, Complementry and Alternative Medicines.

Raithere
12-14-05, 10:04 AM
I am trying to understasnd, are we becoming excess skeptic/pro/believer or not due to PMA? Eg; if addicted/pro/believe in excess to CMs and otherside to CAMs, can we then get more effects+side effects from CMs and lesser from CAMs?Okay, now that I'm certain what you're talking about:

Any difference in efficacy of any treatment (CM or CAM) dependent upon the belief or skepticism of the person taking the treatment is called the placebo (when positive) or nocebo (when negative) effect. This is why tests of treatments use control groups where the patients are given treatments that are inert.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo_effect

In short, belief or skepticism has no bearing on the efficacy of the treatment itself but it can have an effect on the patient.

~Raithere

Dr. Nancy Malik
06-07-08, 06:06 AM
Homeopathy cures where Conventional Allopathic Medicine (CAM) fails

Myles
06-07-08, 07:20 AM
Homeopathy cures where Conventional Allopathic Medicine (CAM) fails

cures what, for example ? Evidence of clinuical trials ,please.

Simon Anders
06-07-08, 02:44 PM
cures what, for example ? Evidence of clinuical trials ,please.

http://www.trusthomeopathy.org/case/res_research.html

Introspect
06-07-08, 08:17 PM
For many people, negative emotions have become a way of life for so long, they don't realize why happiness perpetually eludes them.

Think positively. Another important key is to think positively, realizing that we all encounter setbacks and obstacles in life. Brooding about them is not the answer. If we rise above self-pity, think positively and learn from our experiences, we can turn a bad experience into a good one.

We must be cautious about statements like these since simple suggestions to think positively can be detrimental for some people. Different personality types, different contexts, different approaches to life. All of these have significant impacts on the types of mindsets which are most beneficial to an individual. For some people such as those who are defensive pessimists, thinking positively makes it harder for them to accomplish their goals and results in them feeling worse.

More in this paper on the positive psychology of negative thinking: dx.doi.org/10.1002/jclp.10094

Dr. Nancy Malik
06-10-08, 01:09 AM
Homeopathic medicines stimulate your body's homeostatic mechanism so your body heals itself by dealing with the sources of your symptoms. This stimulus assists your system in clearing itself of any expressions of imbalance. The homoeopath gives you a medicine or remedy which matches your symptoms as you experience them, and which takes into account you as a person - your individual characteristics emotionally as well as physically.

Here's an example of how this works. Think of your "natural regulator" as your internal temperature gauge. If you go outside and it is very hot, your body will recognize it is too hot and begin to perspire. Your homeostatic mechanism is producing a symptom - perspiration - in an effort to cool down the body. If you go outside and it is very cold, the symptom is shivering. Your homeostatic mechanism is trying to warm the body up by shivering to produce heat.

Think about the last time you were shivering. You could not control it, and you did not stop until you were warm. It is the same way with homeopathic medicines. If you are ill and your body is showing symptoms, the symptoms will not disappear until the source of the symptoms has disappeared.

More details at hpathy.com/research/connelly-homeopathy-works.asp