I was philosophizing over this. Say a born blind person could he dream? I wonder what they would dream about! I bet its shit being blind though.

They do dream, but with the other senses; sound, scent, taste, touch.

I was under the impression that people who were born blind didn't dream. I suppose it does make sense though that they dream with the other senses, like Liquidwalls said.

But if the person went blind after they were born, they surely do dream in the same way as do those who can still see.

I think they would dream because its not just about seeing your dream but about sensing it. Google blind people and dreaming and click FAQ, it gives a good explanation and study of dreaming and people. It basically says if you were blind at birth then you can't see in your dreams. All your other senses are more vivid.

They do dream, but with the other senses; sound, scent, taste, touch.

How do you know?

I mean do they see in their dream like hot nude womens or what ever? Like dream about things.

I think they would dream because its not just about seeing your dream but about sensing it. Google blind people and dreaming and click FAQ, it gives a good explanation and study of dreaming and people. It basically says if you were blind at birth then you can't see in your dreams. All your other senses are more vivid.


Thats all just pseudo intellectual bullshit I don't have time for. I would class a dream as dreaming about things.

I was under the impression that people who were born blind didn't dream.
humans must dream or they will go insane.

How do you know?
Probably because he researched this?

I mean do they see in their dream like hot nude womens or what ever? Like dream about things.
I don't think anyone dreams of womens, whatever a women is...

They don't see anything in their dreams, because they have never experienced the sense of sight. Just as it's incredibly hard for us to imagine any senses other than the five we already have, it's incredibly hard for people who were blind since birth to imagine sight.

You don't only see in your dreams. You hear too. And feel, and taste, and smell. All your senses are involved in your dreams. The only difference is that one sense is missing in blind people. Just because they don't see in their dreams, doesn't mean they aren't dream.

It's pronounced woah-man.

humans must dream or they will go insane.
I had heard that blind people were exempt.

*shrugs* It doesn't matter anyway. It was an illogical thing to think anyway.

Thats all just pseudo intellectual bullshit I don't have time for.
Why am I not surprised?

I would class a dream as dreaming about things.
And blind people are dreaming about things; thus, they're having dreams. I don't see what point you're trying to make.

Most of my dreams are primarily of speech. They often have no substantive visual images.

Athelwulf, I don't like you. I would punch you in the face in the real life.

humans must dream or they will go insane.

Is there a way to stop people dreaming?

Athelwulf, I don't like you. I would punch you in the face in the real life.
Is that supposed to make me think you're right? Is that supposed to make me think you're all tough? Is that supposed to sound like anything other than a direct threat?

Well, it's not working. And it never will. You require moderator intervention.

And by the way, I don't like you either — but at least I'm civilized enough not to actually hit you, were I standing in front of you in real life. ;)

Is there a way to stop people dreaming?
Either make them stop sleeping or somehow block their ability to enter REM sleep.

http://vision.about.com/od/severevisionloss/f/blinddreams.htm

Q. Do People Born Blind Have Visual Dreams?

A. The answer, simply put, appears to be "no." When people born blind were questioned about what they "see" in dreams in several studies, their answers indicate that the experience of vision first is needed before it can be translated into a dream. Those blind for a lifetime instead experience other keenly developed senses in their dreams--i.e., the sensation of moving around, the emotion of joy, etc.

Dream images of the blind instead seem to be reconstructions of objects based on sensory input such as touch and sound, just as occurs in waking life. But can these images be accurately described as visual? Can an object be recreated in detail if the dreamer has in fact never experienced seeing it?

Other studies indicate that individuals blind at birth do see visual images. But it can be argued that these images are constructs based on input from other senses (and on what the dreamer has been told by the sighted about what these objects look like).

humans must dream or they will go insane.

Not true. Humans don't even "need" sleep. There are some people born with a genetic disorder that prevents them from creating the chemicals in their Medula Oblongata that puts people out. Without this chemical being generated, they do not ever feel the compulsion to go to sleep.

That doesn't mean that they can run around like Energizer Bunnies... their muscles obey the same chemical laws. But they can sit up all night and read or play chess or whatever.

Carl Sagan talks about a father and daughter that had this disorder in one of his books. I think it was "Broca's Brain". They were perfectly normal, and lived healthy lives. Except for the fact that the guy's wife left them because it drove HER crazy that they were always up!

Cases like this prove that dreams are not needed to consolidate memories, prevent insanity, do any subconscious upkeep, or any of that nonsense. It also proves that sleep is not needed in any way. The only reason we sleep is because it serves as a very short duration of hibernation. It kept our nocturnal ancestors asleep in the trees (or in their holes) during the day, when the big lizards were afoot. It conserves energy, because you really only need to be awake long enough to forage and fornicate.

No. Blind people cannot dream. This is such an obvious obviously that the discussion should be lucked.

Blind people are not even technically people. They aspire to be untermenschen but will never attain that exalted rank.

The best that a blind person can hope for in life is to be ground up and made into either a.) dog food, b.) oil, c.) insulation. Other than that, they're worthless wastes of space.

Wait. Strike that.
Blind people can neither hope nor aspire.

Sucks to be blind.
At least they're one up on muslims though.

Athelwulf, I don't like you. I would punch you in the face in the real life.
yes, but then i would kick the shit out of you, and have sex with your unconscious body.

and im not even gay. im just fucked up.

yes, but then i would kick the shit out of you, and have sex with your unconscious body.

I'd probably just shit on his face. (The beating taken for granted, of course.)

Maybe something more subtle... Giving him a hitler maybe?
Nah. He probably wouldn't even notice... better just shit on his face. Hopefully I'd have the squirts that day.

I'd probably just shit on his face. (The beating taken for granted, of course.)

Maybe something more subtle... Giving him a hitler maybe?
Nah. He probably wouldn't even notice... better just shit on his face. Hopefully I'd have the squirts that day.
have you ever seen the george carlin video describing "the aristocrats" skit?

haha!
do a youtube search on "george carlin aristocrats"....you'll love it!

Is there a way to stop people dreaming?
ye, by waking them up when they go into REM sleep.
in a situation like that a persons dreams will start becoming a reality, that is what drives them insane.

You don't only see in your dreams. You hear too. And feel, and taste, and smell. All your senses are involved in your dreams. The only difference is that one sense is missing in blind people. Just because they don't see in their dreams, doesn't mean they aren't dream.
i have never 'tasted' or 'smelled' anything in my dreams.
to be honest i don't think i have ever 'felt' anything either.

Is that supposed to make me think you're right? Is that supposed to make me think you're all tough? Is that supposed to sound like anything other than a direct threat?

Well, it's not working. And it never will. You require moderator intervention.

And by the way, I don't like you either — but at least I'm civilized enough not to actually hit you, were I standing in front of you in real life. ;)

I was just saying. The other day I had the urge to punch this Indian guy at the bus stop so I did. He had a face like that said "punch me" do you have a face like that too?

Liar.

We've seen your picture. You're a little girl.

Although, I suppose it is possible that this 'indian guy' was a 10 year old kid and then I suppose you'd have a fighting chance. Especially if you were all hopped up on Bacardi Breezer.

Liar.

We've seen your picture. You're a little girl.

Although, I suppose it is possible that this 'indian guy' was a 10 year old kid and then I suppose you'd have a fighting chance. Especially if you were all hopped up on Bacardi Breezer.

You can't get pissed of alcopops. Its like not even 6% vol. Talk about something like 5 shots of 75% of absence. I laid into this asshole.

And I don't look girly anymore, I've been eating chicken and butter for the fast 6 months. And drinking protein shakes.

I was just saying. The other day I had the urge to punch this Indian guy at the bus stop so I did. He had a face like that said "punch me" do you have a face like that too?
you didnt punch anyone, breezerboy.

You can't get pissed of alcopops. Its like not even 6% vol. Talk about something like 5 shots of 75% of absence. I laid into this asshole.

And I don't look girly anymore, I've been eating chicken and butter for the fast 6 months. And drinking protein shakes.

cum doesnt count as protein shakes you little bender boy

i have never 'tasted' or 'smelled' anything in my dreams.
to be honest i don't think i have ever 'felt' anything either.
I recently had a dream in which I was eating a pizza. My sense of taste was definitely involved, as it was a very good pizza, which tasted much like a Freshetta sauce-stuffed-crust pizza (and those, by the way, are the yummers). And I know I've felt in at least one dream.

I was just saying. The other day I had the urge to punch this Indian guy at the bus stop so I did.
Did he then say "Hm, it's quite windy today..."?

He had a face like that said "punch me" do you have a face like that too?
*writes a period between "me" and "do"*

I suppose you admit by default that blind people can and do dream as well?