This is a poll and requires no comments from anyone answering. Is it your belief that men have the capacity to be friends with woman. Also is it your belief that woman have the capacity to be friends with men? I will offer 4 poll options, answer accordingly.

In a friendship between members of the opposite gender, some sexual tension is inevitable, tolerable, and even pleasant.

The question is, can sderenzi be friends with anyone??

In a friendship between members of the opposite gender, some sexual tension is inevitable, tolerable, and even pleasant.
hmm, could someone be in denial??

Nickelodeon, I can't be friends with anyone no :-P I would take advantage of the girl and try getting in her panties, lol Anyway I wonder how many others would feel the same.

The question is, can sderenzi be friends with anyone??
he just wants a 3some with him, tor and a can of whipped cream, and to that end I have to say you gotta admire the kid.

i don't know why you think men cannot be freinds with women sdrenezi, practically all my freinds are women.

hmm, could someone be in denial??

What am I supposed to be denying? Also, I deny that I am denying it.

Nickelodeon, I can't be friends with anyone no :-P I would take advantage of the girl and try getting in her panties, lol Anyway I wonder how many others would feel the same.



This is a poll and requires no comments from anyone answering

sshhh.

What am I supposed to be denying? Also, I deny that I am denying it.
a glorious career awaits you in politics.

he just wants a 3some with him, tor and a can of whipped cream, and to that end I have to say you gotta admire the kid.

I hope that's full fat

Meanwhile, I agree with Baum. re the sexual tension thing. I think one of the two has an attraction of sorts. Practically all my male pals wanted to marry me and that can be a tad problematic. Especailly as I was completely oblivious as to any attraction, until erm, the proposal arrived.

i don't know why you think men cannot be freinds with women sdrenezi, practically all my freinds are women.
why surely you must be one of them cotton pickin' homos.

Wow this thread moving a mile a minute, And its all shiite. Especially mine.

I hope that's full fat
you want full fat? then substitute the cream for me, in fact lets me and you ditch sdernzi and the cream.
what say you?

a glorious career awaits you in politics.

Not 'til I'm old enough for it to be REALLY taboo. [/foley]

you want full fat? then substitute the cream for me, in fact lets me and you ditch sdernzi and the cream.
what say you?

well as long as my boyfriend doesn't mind an extra tagging along.........

though


I suspect he might :bugeye:

I suggest to you that the need to have many friends that are woman is an unconsious desire you have to find the sister you never had. We must assume by making friends with these woman you have no sexual interest in them but instead seek solice because you felt (growing up) the absence of a friendly sister in your life. I feel for you on that note, truly.

Not 'til I'm old enough for it to be REALLY taboo. [/foley]
by the time bush, rummy and pnac are through it'll be more taboo than fucking your dead mother up the ass.

cant beat a bit of necro-sodomy-pedophilia.

well as long as my boyfriend doesn't mind an extra tagging along.........

though


I suspect he might :bugeye:
get rid of him.
trust me you won't regret it.

by the time bush, rummy and pnac are through it'll be more taboo than fucking your dead mother up the ass.

cant beat a bit of necro-sodomy-pedophilia.

Xtreem! I'll start hitting on sderenzi in PM now.

So who gets the cream?

I've got your cream right here.

I suggest to you that the need to have many friends that are woman is an unconsious desire you have to find the sister you never had. We must assume by making friends with these woman you have no sexual interest in them but instead seek solice because you felt (growing up) the absence of a friendly sister in your life. I feel for you on that note, truly.
you quoting your therapist?

kid you're nuttier than rats shit in a pistachio factory.

The question is, can a guy be friends with cream?

So who gets the cream?
tor, full fucking fat n all.

The question is, can a guy be friends with cream?

You should start a poll.

Xtreem! I'll start hitting on sderenzi in PM now.
now you're just trying to make me jealous.

I wanna be hit on :-(

I have more female friends than male. Men don't talk enough and they care way too much about sports.

Men talk about sports because they're stupid things with a little brain. Any smart man would realize sporting events are random an not based on skills. You either get lucky or don't, there's no mystery there.

As for woman, they like to talk about things, but mostly I just enjoy looking at them.

I wanna be hit on :-(
you mean baum hasn't flooded your inbox yet?

why surely you must be one of them cotton pickin' homos.
no. it's all due to a mother that cared about her son.

Men talk about sports because they're stupid things with a little brain. Any smart man would realize sporting events are random an not based on skills. You either get lucky or don't, there's no mystery there.

Well, I think there is some degree of skill involved. Although the world cup would be more exciting if 11 random men were plucked from their country for every game. Like jury service, but football.

As for woman, they like to talk about things, but mostly I just enjoy looking at them.

I don't have anything interesting to talk about and I've lost my confidence since I was younger. I can talk for so long, but then there's an awkward silence. Generally I avoid it.

no. it's all due to a mother that cared about her son.
a whiff of incest! so whilst you were in denial and in the closet, mama was showing her boy a little too much love, ooooh the plot thickens....do go on.

this is better than watching re runs of dallas on cable.

phone:
I've lost my confidence since I was younger.
why, what happned?

I don't really know. Well, I do kind of.

I used to be quite the little stoner when I was younger, then one day it didn't agree and ever since I've been a little bit mental I think. Schizophrenia's probably winging its way to me as I speak.

Just a few events knocked me down since then and I've never really got back up. Stopped hanging around with my friends, because they were all stoners. Never really found other good friends who I could be totally sincere with. I've never met anyone like my old friends since, to be honest. Still see them now and again, but they're not doing that great. One flunked out of uni because he fell in love with coke, another is still doing alright with a job back where we all lived, but loves stuffing his face with coke at the weekends and deals weed. The other is doing ok, but at college doing a course that isn't much use and in a dead end job.. he seems to be enjoying himself though, so that's good, but he's stoned all the time. Basically they all depend on drugs in one way or another. None of them put the effort in to see me at any point, which is fair enough, but a bit of an insult at the same time.

I tend to fuck something up periodically which puts me down again.

Cheery stuff, huh?

Life sucks, basically.

I don't really know. Well, I do kind of.

I used to be quite the little stoner when I was younger, then one day it didn't agree and ever since I've been a little bit mental I think. Schizophrenia's probably winging its way to me as I speak.

Just a few events knocked me down since then and I've never really got back up. Stopped hanging around with my friends, because they were all stoners. Never really found other good friends who I could be totally sincere with. I've never met anyone like my old friends since, to be honest. Still see them now and again, but they're not doing that great. One flunked out of uni because he fell in love with coke, another is still doing alright with a job back where we all lived, but loves stuffing his face with coke at the weekends and deals weed. The other is doing ok, but at college doing a course that isn't much use and in a dead end job.. he seems to be enjoying himself though, so that's good, but he's stoned all the time. Basically they all depend on drugs in one way or another. None of them put the effort in to see me at any point, which is fair enough, but a bit of an insult at the same time.

I tend to fuck something up periodically which puts me down again.

Cheery stuff, huh?

Life sucks, basically.
were you into weed or something heavier?

Life sucks, basically.
well this is a deep issue in itself, and not appropriate in this thread.

but western european life does suck basically. For all the materialistic things, underneath people, and especially young adults are just not happy, and we see this manifest itself in extreme cases in self harming, psycological and emotional problems all of which are on the increase. And I have to say you would not get these problems in cultures like bedouin arabs and other nomadic cultures which are seen to be totally different to western culture and lifestyle.

Just weed and booze.

But it was an all day, every day thing for a long time. All we ever did was get stoned and everything we were going to do involved getting stoned.

e.g. Cool, half price go-karting, anyone up for it?
Damn right, but we need to get mangled before we go in.

The weekends, and laterally the evenings after school, involved alcohol in copious quanitities.

One of us used to take off our school tie and bag, stroll into tesco, buy x bottles of Tesco Chilean screwtop (£2.76 at the time) and then we used to go and drink them. We'd roam around the city for a while, look at things in the shopping centre and then go home for dinner. I usually fell asleep straight after dinner. Good way of making sure you can get up the next day, but probably not too healthy when you're 15/16.

I barely went to school in my last 2 years for standard grades (gcses) and highers (a-levels), but got alright results. Could have got straight A's probably, if I'd tried, but I didn't.

Yeah, sorry. Not sure why I'm telling you :P

Life in the UK for young people is shit though, you're right. I mean, there's a lot of opportunities, but something else is missing.

Men and women can indeed be friends :)

Do females ever even have anything interesting to talk about?

you mean baum hasn't flooded your inbox yet?

A great politician never keeps his word.

Do females ever even have anything interesting to talk about?

You must be gay.

Wanna cyber?

No you are gay.
Women are only good for one thing, and it is not talking about robots and aliens.

No you are gay.
Women are only good for one thing, and it is not talking about robots and aliens.

Only a closet case would say that.
I understand you already lick Luke. Says so in your username.
Whoever this Luke character is, there is no way he is as good to you as I am.
I feel left out and confused. Frankly you've rather upset me. What has Luke got that I haven't?

you cant be friends with someone if your sexually attracted to them amd if you think you are your a hippocrit

So: you've been friends with Brian/Doris for a while now and you've always got on well but lately you've caught him/her looking at you in this, like, really weird way and, when you catch him/her at it, they look away all shy, like, and you're thinking "ooer... does Brian/Doris fancy me, I thought we were just friends?" and now you're, like, really confused because what once seemed so innocent and simple has now got so complex and, with no prior warning whatsoever, your loins are suddenly acheing and burning and generally all a-quiver.

Well fret no longer. Just follow my simple equation and all shall be revealed:

((Are you (single? / gay?) * Are they (single? / gay?)) * no. months since you last had a shag) / 100 = Probability that it's totally platonic

Post your results here.

The question is whether men can be friends with "woman?" I think it's spelled "wuh-man!" and you're supposed to start beating your chest and growling after saying it.

Anyway, I believe the answer is no, unless one party is unfuckable and/or is dating someone more fuckable than their friends. Oh, and if one is gay, of course.

For more info, see the Ladder Theory (http://www.laddertheory.com/).

Or http://www.intellectualwhores.com/

Or http://www.intellectualwhores.com/Yep. That one works, too!

I think the ladder theory is being seriously undervalued in this thread.
Everyone should read it... many of you guys could benefit from this fine piece of aquired knowledge

I'm a firm adherent to ladder theory.

you cant be friends with someone if your sexually attracted to them amd if you think you are your a hippocrit

Explain how.

What a coincidence... Im 16 and I have a lot of female friends... they say sometimes i flirt with them but I dont see how I do. Sure, i joke around with them, but I do the same w/ my guy friends. I treat them relatively the same except i try not to be as indecent around girls and I dont wrestle them or anything. But I still talk to them, make jokes, laugh at jokes, prank, get pranked, play pitch and catch, and jokingly argue back and forth with them. I hang out w/ them alot too, same w/ my guy friends, but some girls, including my ex, say I flirt with them. I dont see how thats flirting, for its not like im attracted to any of them, sure they r good looking, but there's no... "spark" or anything that makes me interested in becoming closer than friends w/ most. When it comes to friendship ultimately I see no difference in gender but obviously people around me do. Idk if guys and girls can be friends at my age, I sure am, but others think not. Is that really flirtatious?? (spelling?) I mean, I do admit once and a while i complement them by saying they look awesome, but thats only at dances and think girls kinda deserve that... they did spend hours doing w/e they do.

In a friendship between members of the opposite gender, some sexual tension is inevitable, tolerable, and even pleasant.

Nah, I'm great friends with quite a few girls (actually most of my friends are female) and feel no sexual desire towards most of them.
Oh, and I always value friendship over any romantic relationship.

Nah, I'm great friends with quite a few girls (actually most of my friends are female) and feel no sexual desire towards most of them.
Oh, and I always value friendship over any romantic relationship.

But you're asexual. You're different from the vast majority of humanity, and the vast majority of organisms.

Why does it not surprise me that you are a racist elitist that does not engage in discourse with everybody equally?
Do females ever even have anything interesting to talk about?
No you are gay.
Women are only good for one thing, and it is not talking about robots and aliens.
Is racism somehow worse than misogyny and homophobia, lixluke? Discuss.

When you return from your brief vacation. For insulting people. Again. Recidivist. :rolleyes:

i wash cryinglike cuz every guy i have ever had doesnt really wanna talk with me they are more like "ur hot" and stuff im like wtf? so i told my dad and hes like "no guys want to be friends with girls if they arepretty' so i guess thats wat it is to a guys persceptive and it made me cry ieven more.

The question is whether men can be friends with "woman?" I think it's spelled "wuh-man!" and you're supposed to start beating your chest and growling after saying it.

Anyway, I believe the answer is no, unless one party is unfuckable and/or is dating someone more fuckable than their friends. Oh, and if one is gay, of course.

For more info, see the Ladder Theory (http://www.laddertheory.com/).


We are in disagreement. Unless of course you are saying women exist to be mans fucktoy, it's not simply a matter of how fuckable a person is that decides if they can be friends or not.

Ladder theory only applies to social robots, people who let other people program their minds and beliefs into accepting limitations, such as "males and females cannot be friends and must either fight or marry each other".

It's not really that simple, because some females ONLY make good friends, and some females ARENT good in bed, or good girlfriends. Also some males ARENT trying to have sex with every female in their life, otherwise they'd have started with their mother, their sister and their cousin long before they'd have moved onto the other 3 billion random females.

It's really simple, if you view females as physical objects, you won't be able o be friends with them. If the female views you as a physical object, she will not be able to be friends with you. If you both like each others mind, then you don't need to be physical with them at all, and if you have a girlfriend or wife, or husband, or whatever then you are better off having at friends from both genders than to have only your own gender, because when your wife divorces you, or your husband divorces you, or just when you have your relationship problems, who are you going to talk to about it?

If you are a guy, you arent going to gain much insight on women if you only talk to guys. If you are a woman, you arent going to gain much insight on men if you only talk to women. The best way to study the opposite gender, is through friendship, because the only way to know a persons mind is through friendship. If you just want to know their body, well thats what physical relationships are for.

girls got vjj boys got p33n and they are magneticly chargedthere fore we cant be frewns sry.

girls got vjj boys got p33n and they are magneticly chargedthere fore we cant be frewns sry.


iawtc

But you're asexual. You're different from the vast majority of humanity, and the vast majority of organisms.

No, I actually agree with him. The man is smart. When you are 80 years old, homeless and divorced, are you going to give a damn about all those fuckbuddies you had?

People who over value physical relationships to the point of undervalue of long term relatiosnhips, in the end will have neither. It's really simple, if you want sex, you'll only have good sex while you are young, eventually you'll be old and useless as a sex object, then what? It will be too late to find REAL friends, it will be too late to have REAL relationships with people, you are going to end up either living alone with 50 cats, homeless, or the old guy or girl at the bar.

Smart guys and girls, they learn quick what they want and then they go get it. What's going to matter when you are 40? 50? When you are 50, the only thing thats going to matter when you are old and impotent, is if you have a family or not. Are you going to spend your Xmas at your male friends house if you are a guy? What if he's not married? What are you going to do to celebrate the holidays? Go to the strip club again?

What are you going to do to celebrate thanksgiving, or any of these holidays? Can you go over your guy friends house and have him cook a huge xmas dinner? Sure it happens, but wouldnt you rather spend your holidays with your female friend and her kids?

Think about it, most of the time, the female actually wins the children in a divorce. The family usually ends up being a female concept, females can visit other females families just fine, but what are old men supposed to do?

Once again, ladder theory only favors males who are not family oriented. If all you want out of life is good sex and temporary relationships, ladder theory is for you. If you want to grow old, be surrounded by people who care about you, and have real friends, isnt it statistically in your favor to invite men and women to join your family?

Is it not in your favor, if you are a woman, to be able to give your child a Godfather? What if the real father is a jerk and you have that friend who is there for you?

If you are a man, why do you need to have sex with ALL your friends? If you are afraid you'll have sex with all your female friends, talk to lesbians, they'll never have sex with you, you can talk to them just like you talk to your guy friends, you can discuss women together, and talk about sports and all the stuff you talk with guys about. Many women have gay friends, shouldnt you have a few lesbian friends?

Finally, yes it's a good idea for two straight people of opposite gender to be friends. ALL long relationships start with friendship. You are not going to meet your future husband in a bar late at night. You are not going to fuck her so good that she morphs into a housewife. In the end, friendship is more valueable than any other kind of relationship between two humans. If you can reach friendship, the friendzone or whatever you want to call it, the only thing limiting you both to the friendzone is your own stupidity, and lack of interest. If you can enter the friendzone, you can enter any other zone, because there is no dogma, and therefore the laddy theory bible is complete bullshit, designed to help players and these types get laid easier by convincing decent people that they have to follow "rules". There honestly are no rules to success for relationships, there is no ultimate theory, it's simple, you should try EVERYTHING until something works, this means you should have friends, you should have friends you have sex with, friends you don't have sex with, etc, because it's ultimately a gamble no matter how you approach it.

Why care what they think? If you like a woman and shes your friend, tell her you like her, if she wants to keep you in the friendzone, her loss is your gain. If you like a man, and hes a good friend, try asking him out, in fact, don't even give him the chance to friendzone you, ask him out the moment you feel like it and make him keep rejecting you over and over. Keep asking until they say yes, and keep thinking up new innovative ways to ask, if you arent BEST friends, the worst that can happen is they get annoyed and tell you to stop flirting, or stop hitting on them, or stop asking them out, big deal. In the end, you'll be able to say you gave them the option which they either accept or decline, and from your point of view it doesnt really matter because you have other friends you could ask and some will definately accept.

Thats the benefit to friendship, eventually each one of them will be single and lonely just like you are now, and if you have good timing, and you ask in the right way, you'll win a partner. If you do it in the wrong way, you are likely a jerk anyway, or they are, and if neither of you are a jerk, then both of you are being stubborn trying to hold out for perfection, when in reality whats really going to happen is you both will end up with each other anyway, just 20 years later after you both divorce your first "perfect" wife or husband and figure out that there is really no thing better than friendship, in specific best friendship, in specific specific, best friends who have sex are the same as partners, and it's just a matter of knowing if you are friends, and you've had sex with them, and you become best friends, well that should be the person you marry. The best friend who has sex with you.

Do females ever even have anything interesting to talk about?

Their feelings. Why don't you ask a female what her perspective feels like? Ask her what it's like to be female, try to understand her, and then once you learn to understand her maybe you'll learn to understand yourself.

If you have not figured it out yet, females ARE part of us males, we all come from females, we should do a better job actually understanding ourselves. You cannot learn all about females by asking your mother, sometimes you have to ask one to know one.

heh heh timetravel, im rly begining to think that you dont understand woman at all. we r not so different

When you are 80 years old, homeless and divorced, are you going to give a damn about all those fuckbuddies you had?Hell yes! When the only thing you have left is your memories, then they better be good!

And you can look at all the young'uns with that gleam in your eyes that says "You think I'm just an old hag but you have no idea the kind of stuff I've seen and done..."

wow u must be loose as *** hope ur bf has fun foxxing a gaping whole

You, Sir, epitomize elegance and gallantry.

lolz is that why ur 1/2 naked in a science forum biznitch? i mean leave sum for the mystery plz. dece body though but a boob lift wouldnt kill ya.

ps those pulled up grannie panties need to go to. invest in a thong cookies and cream bar.

Welcome to the ignore list. Hope you have fun.

uh what??? id put away these claws but i just cant ima crazy tiger.

Originally Posted by TimeTraveler
When you are 80 years old, homeless and divorced, are you going to give a damn about all those fuckbuddies you had?
I believe so, it may be the only thing between you and bothering to clear the asphyxiating drool on those cold lonely nights. You could of course buy a call girl and a blowup pump.

mayb if i put n00dz up james would let me stay


eh?

heh heh timetravel, im rly begining to think that you dont understand woman at all. we r not so different

I understand women better than most. I never said women had different minds from men.

Did you not read my post? Most people are jerks is what I said, if you get the drift. I also said most people are surrounded by temporary and have no permanent relationships, which means most people just jump from person to person their entire life and never have anyone who truly matters or who truly cares. If you operate in a fashion which brings temporary gain, you often sacrifice permanent gain in exchange.

Hell yes! When the only thing you have left is your memories, then they better be good!

And you can look at all the young'uns with that gleam in your eyes that says "You think I'm just an old hag but you have no idea the kind of stuff I've seen and done..."

Why do you want to be 80 years old, surrounded by cats, and left only with your memories? Don't you want to have some people who care about you?

It's your life, if you want to be trapped in your mind at 80, so be it, but by 80 life is supposed to get better, and for some people life does get better because relationships can grow stronger over that period of time.

I'm not saying don't do and see stuff, but a lot of people can do and see stuff without putting so much effort into it. Temporary relationships are not rare, they are the majority, so why put so much effort into something that is so easy to get that you get it without trying and without wanting it?

Most relationships will be temporary anyway, so why actively look for them? It's better to seek what's most valueable. Do you want silver or do you want gold?

Why do you want to be 80 years old, surrounded by cats, and left only with your memories? Don't you want to have some people who care about you?

It's your life, if you want to be trapped in your mind at 80, so be it, but by 80 life is supposed to get better, and for some people life does get better because relationships can grow stronger over that period of time.

I'm not saying don't do and see stuff, but a lot of people can do and see stuff without putting so much effort into it. Temporary relationships are not rare, they are the majority, so why put so much effort into something that is so easy to get that you get it without trying and without wanting it?

Most relationships will be temporary anyway, so why actively look for them? It's better to seek what's most valueable. Do you want silver or do you want gold?I have absolutely no idea what you're saying.

I have absolutely no idea what you're saying.

People in your life have a value, a worth, right?

Quality people, those whom you care about and who care about you, have the greatest worth. Temporary people, they come and go. If you think about this like money, in order to be rich in social capital you need family, you need permanent people who you can grow old with, who care about your existance, and who love and respect you.

If you surround yourself with low quality people, the result is that it lowers your social capital, and THIS lowers your quality of life because social capital is the main component/ingredient for quality of life. When you invest too much time in temporary relationships, it's like you are working with pennies instead of hundred dollar bills. You'll never get rich by just finding a new shiny penny each day, it's not going to happen. You won't get rich if you move to quarters either. You need the full $100, or $1000 bill, and if you work with bigger amounts of social capital, you'll get rich faster.

Yes you can find family and social capital in the bar, if thats the best place you can find to look, it's possible even there, but it's just going to take you a lot longer. I'm sure you've seen cheers, I'm sure you've thought about being a bar tender, and from that position you can form real friendships, but it's harder, because the quality of people in that environment is often lower than anywhere else.

Don't you want people around you whom you can trust? Don't you want to surround yourself with people who care about you? Do you really want to be an old woman and find out that you have no one in your life who gives a shit about you, and everyone simply used you for sex, or whatever?

If this is what you want out of life, I feel sorry for you, I think you could do better than this.

I actually was a bartender, in college.

I don't see what this whole post has to do with anything. Yes, it's better to have lots of social capital than less. Congratulations, that is a very profound statement. It's also better to be handsome, healthy and rich than being ugly, poor and have lung concer. Andthe sky is often blue.

stuff

I don't care.

I actually was a bartender, in college.

I don't see what this whole post has to do with anything. Yes, it's better to have lots of social capital than less. Congratulations, that is a very profound statement. It's also better to be handsome, healthy and rich than being ugly, poor and have lung concer. Andthe sky is often blue.

Exactly, you WERE a bartender. Don't you wonder how I knew you were?

Sure it's good to be healthy, but thats because it all comes down to quality of life. If you are rich in social capital wont need as much money to be happy. Often people who are poor are happier than people who are rich. Often people who arent handsome, are happier than people who are.

I've seen old couples married for over 50 years, poor, unhealthy, and practically dying, and they were living in their best years, happier than ever.
I think that situation is special, and rare, special enough that it's more valueable than the simple life.

Sure, living fast and simple, it does work while you are young, and it works for some. It's not for me, if I wanted that, I could have it. I just find that it's empty. I feel empty enough already, I don't need to make the cup a quarter empty from half full.

I don't care.

Why would you waste your energy posting I don't care?

If you don't care, why even read what I post? Go read a book and educate yourself.

Sure it's good to be healthy, but thats because it all comes down to quality of life. If you are rich in social capital wont need as much money to be happy. Often people who are poor are happier than people who are rich. Often people who arent handsome, are happier than people who are.

I've seen old couples married for over 50 years, poor, unhealthy, and practically dying, and they were living in their best years, happier than ever.
I think that situation is special, and rare, special enough that it's more valueable than the simple life.Hahahaha, oh my God, I can't believe you wrote that.

Are you this thick? Go back and read my post.

I still don't see how anything you're saying is relevant to anything. Again: yes, living a good life is better than living a bad life. Thank you for pointing that out. I'm real better off now.

Hahahaha, oh my God, I can't believe you wrote that.

Are you this thick? Go back and read my post.

I still don't see how anything you're saying is relevant to anything. Again: yes, living a good life is better than living a bad life. Thank you for pointing that out. I'm real better off now.

Good life and bad life depends on the people you surround yourself with. They are who makes up your life.

No. I make my life happen.

But I understand what you mean (although you could've said it in a less abstruse and sanctimonious way). Yes, the people who surround me are important. But don't worry, I have friends and people who support me. I don't plan on dying alone.

Your definition of I is not we, therefore you do not exist to us, only to yourself.

What this means is, if you do not recognize that family exists, and that other people matter, they will not recognize you either. I'm not exactly sure why you'd want to be in a world without friends, without love, without family, without any of the "good" things in life, but perhaps you prefer to remain inside and focused on yourself physically.

That's fine if this is how you want to percieve the world, but it's very limiting.

You are limiting yourself to your physical body. You are limiting your definition of I, you will be unable to see yourself in others, or connect with people if you don't surpass these limits.

It's in your best interest to move beyond your limits, because in order to be a part of "us", you have to lose the "I" part of yourself. Seriously, it's worth it, it actually feels good to know someone cares about you. You don't want any of this?

I'm not even talking about dying alone or whatever. I'm talking about the experience of connection, it's IMPOSSIBLE when everyone is temporary and low quality. That's why it's empty to me.

I'm sorry, when people say inane shit likeYour definition of I is not we, therefore you do not exist to us, only to yourself.I stop listening. And laugh, sometimes.

I'm sorry, when people say inane shit likeI stop listening. And laugh, sometimes.

Don't you get it. The only reason you exist to others is because we are connected, either through language such as this text you type which my brain then translates, or through spoken word, it's still connection.

What I'm saying is, by thinking in the perspective you are choosing to think in, you are limiting your ability to connect, because you view yourself as a disconnected part of the whole.

The family is your inner circle, they are the whole, you are a part of that whole, then there is community, country, the globe, or the species, but the wider your scope the bigger you are, and the bigger your whole.

I'm saying, it's better if you widen your scope of perception, because then you'll attract better experiences to you. If you want to just, ignore what I'm writing, thats fine, but at least it was said.

i'm amazed by the results of this poll

actually, that explains why there is so much missunderstanding between the genres...
I'm sorry for all of you who posted that men and women can be friends without any interest other than being friends... you are in for a frustrating life

Why would you waste your energy posting I don't care?

If you don't care, why even read what I post? Go read a book and educate yourself.

Haha. I didn't read what you wrote.
I saw that you wrote lots and lots of nonsense, and I figured that if you'd spend all that time on me, I should at least let you know that I don't care what you think.

Hahahaha, oh my God, I can't believe you wrote that.

Are you this thick? Go back and read my post.

I still don't see how anything you're saying is relevant to anything. Again: yes, living a good life is better than living a bad life. Thank you for pointing that out. I'm real better off now.

Don't bother with him. He really is that thick. I don't even read his posts. They're infuriating. He's so dense. Quasar dense. Everynow and then you think you've picked up a sign of intelligence from him, but then you realize it's accidental.

Don't bother with him. He really is that thick. I don't even read his posts. They're infuriating. He's so dense. Quasar dense. Everynow and then you think you've picked up a sign of intelligence from him, but then you realize it's accidental.

Density is better than being vapor is it not? You focus so much on literal and technical language that you do not understand what I post, yet you feel angry at text on your screen?

That's not a sign of emotional maturity. The ignore list option, use it. It's just pixels, you have complete control over your pixels on your computer.

you have complete control over your pixels on your computer.

Not if you use Windows.

Not if you use Windows.*rimshot!*

actually, that explains why there is so much missunderstanding between the genres...
Misunderstanding between the genres? What a lovely way of putting it! Is that because we men and women are capable of making such beautiful music together [retching sounds]? Or are you just thinking of that bloody guitar again?

PS You didn't mean genders... did you?

This is a poll and requires no comments from anyone answering. Is it your belief that men have the capacity to be friends with woman. Also is it your belief that woman have the capacity to be friends with men? I will offer 4 poll options, answer accordingly.Only if my friend blows me afterwards.

i'm amazed by the results of this poll

actually, that explains why there is so much missunderstanding between the genres...
I'm sorry for all of you who posted that men and women can be friends without any interest other than being friends... you are in for a frustrating life

Most wives are friends you know. Unless you plan on buying a wife.

Only if my friend blows me afterwards.
After what? :eek:

Most wives are friends you know.

Hmm, yeah, but according to the statistics, most (over 50%) will divorce their husbands in the first few years of marriage. So what does that say about them being such good friends???

Baron Max

Hmm, yeah, but according to the statistics, most (over 50%) will divorce their husbands in the first few years of marriage. So what does that say about them being such good friends???

Baron Max

If men and women can be enemies, why can't they be friends? It totally depends on the type of woman, in fact it depends on the woman.

Some women you can be friends with, some you can't, but it also depends on you. The way you talk about women, and some of the views you have towards them, if you want to be friends with women you are going about it in completely the wrong way.

Also, you have to choose wisely, but most important, when you get married assume it will end in divorce and watch your back. Assume every woman willing to marry you has a hidden agenda to divorce you and run away, with the kids, or half your property, or destroy your life when you piss them off. Just assume the worst and hope for the best, plan for the worst and tell them you expect the best from them.

In the end, you'll get either one or the other, but neither will be a surprise, you can expect women to try to treat you badly just as you can expect men to treat women badly.

Misunderstanding between the genres? What a lovely way of putting it! Is that because we men and women are capable of making such beautiful music together [retching sounds]? Or are you just thinking of that bloody guitar again?

PS You didn't mean genders... did you?


yes i ment genders.... both gender and genre translate to gênero in portuguese, hence the confusion

Most wives are friends you know. Unless you plan on buying a wife.

should I assume that you don't have any sexual interest on your wife?

I knew that. I still prefer 'genres' though.

should I assume that you don't have any sexual interest on your wife?

I declare, that men should worship women. And women should worship men, to make life better.

OF course I'd have sexual interest in my wife, doesnt mean I'd be most interested in sex, it totally depends on how much sexual energy she has, and how good at it we are, and of course if she looks good it does help.

One thing you should know though, and this is something super secret, you can attract a person sexually, in more ways than just physical seduction.

If someone is your wife, chances are they are attracted to you already, it's just a matter of, making that attraction sexual, and there is a sexualization process involved, thats what I don't tell you. Figure out how to sexualize yourself fully, and if you are physically ugly, figure out how to turn her on indirectly, casually, smoothly, she won't even realize you are doing it, she will just be horny.

If none of that works, theres always viagra, try some. They have it for women now too if you are really that ugly. With viagra even if you arent physically attracted to her at all, you will be after you are viagratized.

The point, if you love a person enough to marry them of course you love them enough to have sex with them and then some. If you love them enough to cook for them and do all these other things for them, of course you love them enough to make love to them, it's all the same.

I'm guessing you've never made love or never had sex with anyone you loved before. If you love the person, it's really easy to be attracted to them, it's effortless because of who they are, you know them on a level that it wouldnt matter what they look like anymore. Of course sex is more enjoyable with attraction, this much is obvious so don't take my comments the wrong way, I'm not endorsing or desexualizing the human body. I'm just saying people who don't have the total package, or physical package, can have other packages.

i preffer gênero :)

I declare, that men should worship women. And women should worship men, to make life better.

OF course I'd have sexual interest in my wife, doesnt mean I'd be most interested in sex, it totally depends on how much sexual energy she has, and how good at it we are, and of course if she looks good it does help.

One thing you should know though, and this is something super secret, you can attract a person sexually, in more ways than just physical seduction.

If someone is your wife, chances are they are attracted to you already, it's just a matter of, making that attraction sexual, and there is a sexualization process involved, thats what I don't tell you. Figure out how to sexualize yourself fully, and if you are physically ugly, figure out how to turn her on indirectly, casually, smoothly, she won't even realize you are doing it, she will just be horny.

If none of that works, theres always viagra, try some. They have it for women now too if you are really that ugly. With viagra even if you arent physically attracted to her at all, you will be after you are viagratized.

The point, if you love a person enough to marry them of course you love them enough to have sex with them and then some. If you love them enough to cook for them and do all these other things for them, of course you love them enough to make love to them, it's all the same.

I'm guessing you've never made love or never had sex with anyone you loved before. If you love the person, it's really easy to be attracted to them, it's effortless because of who they are, you know them on a level that it wouldnt matter what they look like anymore. Of course sex is more enjoyable with attraction, this much is obvious so don't take my comments the wrong way, I'm not endorsing or desexualizing the human body. I'm just saying people who don't have the total package, or physical package, can have other packages.



whoa nigga, I aint reading all that shit (rss)
:D

what I meant was, if you had absolutely no sexual interest in your wife, would she be your wife?

people don't marry great friends... they marry people they're crazy for

whoa nigga, I aint reading all that shit (rss)
:D

what I meant was, if you had absolutely no sexual interest in your wife, would she be your wife?

people don't marry great friends... they marry people they're crazy for


You don't want to marry a person you are crazy for, it's irrational love.

If I have no sexual interest in my wife? If shes a woman, and if shes close enough to me to be my wife, I'll have sexual interest in her because she'll have me in every other way that it would be impossible not to. If someone has you, well it's only a matter of time before they have your body too, it's not like your body controls your mind, your mind controls your body.


You don't want to marry a person you are crazy for, it's irrational love.

Yeah, thats why 50% of people get divorced from their crazy wife or husband, to finally marry their best friend.



You don't want to marry a person you are crazy for, it's irrational love.

I'm saying, marry your best friend the first time and don't waste your time with crazy drama.



You don't want to marry a person you are crazy for, it's irrational love.

You don't want to make your font too big, it's annoying.

You don't want to make your font too big, it's annoying.

That's the point. Get it. Don't be irrational.