Is it moral?

Define moral.

it is immoral to refer to you boyfriend or girlfriend as bf or gf.

Originally posted by 4DHyperCubix
Define moral.
Just your moral, not my moral.

Polygamy all the way...

im purly monogoumos (?spelling?)
interestingly, buts slightly off topic, my friends are almost exlcusivly girls. i dont know what that means, but whatever.

it depends on what you mean by "bf or gf"
someone you love and care deeply for? i have severale of those.
if you mean people your having sex with then im perfectly open minded to having multiple partners.
but still i will only 'go out' with one person openly.
then again im generaly against the whole consept of pairs and marriages in generale. were better off if we just fucked em one night then left happy and got over it.... but thats just me.
im such a people person, can you tell?

Originally posted by yinyinwang
Is it moral?

It's fine if each partner knows about the other, and if they are free to pursue other partners too. As long as you are honest, and everyone is happy, do what you want.

Of course, then you have to practise safe sex, as an infection would spread quickly through this network. And you have to make sure your partner is strict about this with their partners too, but how do you make sure of this?

Finding one reliable partner to trust is hard enough for most people!

You must define what morality means to you first and ask those you are dating whether or not they agree with your views. Just because you may think it is right, which is fine, they may think it isn't. So , to have an honest relationship you should ask your dates their views to understand what they feel that you are doing. It may be fine with them but they just might think that your leading them on.

Originally posted by yinyinwang
Is it moral?

Ask yourself "Can I be in a relationship where I am one of the two girlfriends or boyfriends my partner has" Then you'll know the answer to your intial question.

Originally posted by yinyinwang
Is it moral?
sure can,you can even have more than two,
have to marry them first though,
just join/become a member of Mormon church!
:D

Originally posted by sargentlard
Ask yourself "Can I be in a relationship where I am one of the two girlfriends or boyfriends my partner has" Then you'll know the answer to your intial question.
what do you think?

yinyinwang

define what you mean and understand to be a boyfriend or girlfriend first
and would it be the same to have a Boyfriend AND a Girlfriend
instead of having 2 of the same gender

:)

Originally posted by ripleofdeath
yinyinwang

define what you mean and understand to be a boyfriend or girlfriend first
and would it be the same to have a Boyfriend AND a Girlfriend
instead of having 2 of the same gender
:)
Does the difference matter to your answer?

yinyinwang quote:
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Originally posted by ripleofdeath
yinyinwang

define what you mean and understand to be a boyfriend or girlfriend first
and would it be the same to have a Boyfriend AND a Girlfriend
instead of having 2 of the same gender

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Does the difference matter to your answer?
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you speak of morals.....!
i did not answer!
i was asking if you wished to define the nature of your question in relative terms

if you dont understand the question and or the comment i am making them why not say so
rather than making it go round in circles ?

Originally posted by ripleofdeath
yinyinwang

define what you mean and understand to be a boyfriend or girlfriend first
and would it be the same to have a Boyfriend AND a Girlfriend
instead of having 2 of the same gender

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Does the difference matter to your answer?
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you speak of morals.....!
i did not answer!
i was asking if you wished to define the nature of your question in relative terms

if you dont understand the question and or the comment i am making them why not say so
rather than making it go round in circles ?

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This is an open thread which may explore many combinations, but feel free to answer just whatever you feel, I mean if it is moral in YOUR opinion, not mine.

Originally posted by yinyinwang
Is it moral?



Sure you can. Just dont let them find out.

Morals, well, depends on your defination of morals.

Originally posted by yinyinwang
I mean if it is moral in YOUR opinion, not mine.

It doesn't apply to my situation, so it is amoral. IE, it is not applicable to me, and therefore I am not able to make a judgement.

As there are too many unanswered questions, and it's too hypothetical, I can't answer if I find it immoral for your situation. I mentioned my criteria, and that was honesty.

Originally posted by cthulhus slave
im purly monogoumos (?spelling?)
interestingly, buts slightly off topic, my friends are almost exlcusivly girls. i dont know what that means, but whatever.

it depends on what you mean by "bf or gf"
someone you love and care deeply for? i have severale of those.
if you mean people your having sex with then im perfectly open minded to having multiple partners.
but still i will only 'go out' with one person openly.
then again im generaly against the whole consept of pairs and marriages in generale. were better off if we just fucked em one night then left happy and got over it.... but thats just me.
im such a people person, can you tell?
people get to know each other graduately, if you keep many choices open, you certainly may get a better outcome. But if others can not accept multiple relationship, then you have a problem.

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yinyinwang
Is it moral?
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what is moral?

Originally posted by ripleofdeath
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yinyinwang
Is it moral?
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what is moral?

Let me put it into a simple case. Will you accept the marriage of a gay couple? Or multiple? If it is moral and has nothing to do with others, why does the law deny the case in most of the world?

I do have a discussion on morality on my personal web:
http://yinyinwang.bravepages.com

your site is riddled with popups and asks for help from people to give free advice on how to make more or better weapons!

and you try and tie it up with nature!
and
with yin and yan!

what are you trying to sell?

i have lost interest and patience with your sales pitch!

RD
I never notice there are many popups because I use google toolsbar to stop them. This is a free hosting on which they put lots of ads.

The article on morality is in the philosophy category.

I do not give free advice to anyone but good guys.

You think they are against Yin Yang?

maybe i have misunderstood what you have meant

i thought it was your site?
meaning you have designed it

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yinyinwang
You think they are against Yin Yang?
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this i do not understand,
as i thought it was all your site
i assume you have a site somewhere inside another site

maybe you have a link that goes straight to it ? :)

the above address is a straight one.

Originally posted by phlogistician
It doesn't apply to my situation, so it is amoral. IE, it is not applicable to me, and therefore I am not able to make a judgement.

As there are too many unanswered questions, and it's too hypothetical, I can't answer if I find it immoral for your situation. I mentioned my criteria, and that was honesty.
Do you mean that you feel indifferent about others social relationship?

Sure you can have them, but can you keep them ?

According to my own moral standards [which admittedly are questionable at best], I can have all the boyfriends or girlfriends I can juggle. The number of people I'm romantically involved with doesn't change the standards I use in any relationship -- be honest about what I want and what I'm willing to give, whether I'm monogamous or wildly uncommitted.

Ahhh, if only it were truly so cut & dry!

Morals aside, actually managing multiple entanglements is another matter altogether.... Good luck, if you give it a try ;)

It's logically impossible to have more than one boyfriend/girlfriend.
A boyfriend/girlfriend defined is a person that you are solely committed to.
If you are not solely committed to that person, than that person is not your boyfriend/girlfriend.

Originally posted by Vortexx
Sure you can have them, but can you keep them ?
As a matter of fact some do.

Question is, why would you want to? One partner usually means that most of your time is spent with them. How in the hell can you juggle 2 or more partners? You'd end up stressed and not knowing where you actually were or where you were going. And while the thought of a different partner each night might be pleasant and exciting for some, just think of the horror situation where you would inevitably get the names mixed up, or the situation where they find out about the other people you've been seeing as well as them, then you'd end up alone and no one would want to touch you with a 10 foot pole. Going out in public on dates would be interesting, you'd be paranoid that your other girlfriends or boyfriends or their friends/family would spot you.

Then you of course have the issue of how you could commit to more than one person on that level? There wouldn't be commitment, there'd just be you trying to juggle each girlfriend or boyfriend at the same time.

And if the thought of having more than one girlfriend or boyfriend is for the status symbol, then you have serious issues and should not be in any relationship as you'd be too immature.



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That all might be the case for you, cool skill & Bells, but it sounds as though you're making the mistake of believing it applies to everyone else, which is simply not the case [unless by your repeated use of "you," you're actually intending to say "I"]. Perhaps you'd be surprised to discover all the possible variations there are to human relations, but rest assured, there are many more than "one guy with one gal."

Thank heavens!! :)

heh... I do apologise if that's how my post came across. Of course I'm aware that many are in multiple relationships and some find happiness in it. Good for them.

What I was saying that it would be difficult to manage all the relationships at the one time. One relationship can be hard to manage as one has to juggle other commitments to work, friends, etc along with the commitment to their partner. I am in that position and have at times had my friends and family complain that I don't spend as much time with them or that they never see me anymore as the weekends are spent with my other half and weekdays spent at uni or studying, then of course I have to juggle weekend work on studying and assignments along with spending time with my other half. After 2 years in the relationship we have managed to balance things out so that neither other half or study suffers. I just wonder how someone could manage it all with 2 or more partners and still remain sane:confused:. And while I know of many friends who have multiple partners, they inevitably end up hurt or in tears or stressed beyond belief as they attempt to stretch themselves out to accomodate each relationship, whether they are committed or not to the relationship.

I asked one friend once why he did it and his reply was that it's fun. He was in relationships where there were no commitments whatsoever (just saying the word commit to this guy would have him screaming in terror in the opposite direction... lol), but even he admitted that it was stressful at times. Oh well to each their own I guess, and the way I see it, if it makes you happy knock yourself out, but multiple relationships should really be disclosed to all partners, so as to avoid hurting them and reducing the stress on oneself. Personally for me I couldn't do it. I'm barely able to maintain my sanity with one partner, 2 or more would have me ripping my hair out:p... lol..


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Honey :D

bells
it sounds like you need to tell your family to back off!
unless you wish to become an accountant of your life, sharing it to those who you think should be recieving it in a selfish form,
if you are having a good time with your BF then your family should be happy for you and not want to intrude on that.
you said they complain!
that is not good
although im sure you will explain how it is not that seriouse :)
i hope you occasionaly do something on the spare of the moment
living to the minutes of a clock can come back to undermine your relationship later on
:)

Originally posted by ripleofdeath
bells
it sounds like you need to tell your family to back off!
unless you wish to become an accountant of your life, sharing it to those who you think should be recieving it in a selfish form,
if you are having a good time with your BF then your family should be happy for you and not want to intrude on that.
you said they complain!
that is not good
although im sure you will explain how it is not that seriouse
i hope you occasionaly do something on the spare of the moment
living to the minutes of a clock can come back to undermine your relationship later on


I don't really need to tell the family to back off, I just ignore and do my own thing.. lol:D. Of course they're happy that I'm happy but sometimes they get a bit upset that I'm not around as much anymore. They do complain at times and it's usually at big family gatherings when I either can't go or can't stay as long as I've made other plans with other half. I'm there at the most important occasions and they know that in a time of crisis I'm always there to help and other half and anything or anyone else can wait in such occasions.

I've found that my friends complain more than family. I spend time with them but as most who are in a relationship can admit, things change when you're involved with someone and I guess my friends aren't that open to change. Their loss if they can't deal with it. I dislike it when friends act like hormonal teens when they are well out of their teen years and are in fact adults with responsibilities. Jealousy is not something I tolerate and when friends act that way I tend to just walk away, especially at our age, the green eyed monster irritates me as it's so childish.

As for doing things on the spur of the moment, lol.. of course we do. It would be boring if absolutely everything was planned. As for other half, after 2 years I know not to plan as even he admits, he can't think ahead for more than 1 day in advance:p, so planning everything would drive him up the wall... lol.. (if I want to annoy the man I plan... hehehe). The only thing we pretty much plan in advance would be restaurant bookings. But what I do plan for myself in regards to other half is making sure the work is done during the week (or as much of it as possible) so that the weekend is free. As with most people, we like to have our weekends free to enjoy ourselves.



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Bells,
Ahh, I definitely dig. It can be hard to have time for everything. And as you say, maintaining even one romantic commitment can be taxing. Thankfully, that doesn't keep folks from trying ;) There are indeed many examples of polyamorous relationships that don't work, for any number of reasons. Monogamous relationships are no different in that regard; more fail than succeed, by far. But, I'm glad cold hard reality doesn't often get in the way of people following their hearts :)

For clarification, I don't at all advocate deception. Perhaps it works for some, but in my experience, it's sure to eventually bite me in the ass! So, being busted by one partner while I'm out with another just isn't a realistic possibility, as there's nothing to be busted for. If I'm not being honest, I can't exactly say things are working, I don't think.

Bells
i guess one thing that is also a relatively common expresion of strong emotion is the desire to be with someone more,
...so in line with certain social mannerrisms it is a good thing
:)

Honey
good point considering the divorce rate is around 60%
and must be allot higher in genral relationships that preceed marriage aside from any normal non documented relationships

the reality that seems all too apparent is that people need practice and to learn more about others along with themselfs..
and this is done through relationships on many levels

:)

I think that having 2 girlfriends is not moral and this is the proof:
If you have 2 girlfriends, than when you marry them, you have 2 mothers in law. Since there is no punishment without sin, we get to the conclusion that having 2 girlfriends is a sin so it is not moral.
:D

It's not illegal.

If there is no repercussion, go for it. That's the big IF.

following the laws is part of being moral i suppose, unless of course laws told u to murder ur family or something against ur conscience like that.

altho i'd much rather ask the question: is it a good idea or a bad idea? if i had two gfs, then i'd hafta worry about hiding them from each other. and if they're ok with it, i still hafta deal with jealousy and stuff. so personally i wouldn't do it. =P

Hi:
If this is with the consent of the other partner, I think no problem. Go ahead and good luck. quack - quack Thanks:)