View Full Version : By way of deception, though shalt do war


jandt
12-07-02, 02:38 PM
The motto of the Israeli Intellegence service, Mossad.......


Caught faking an al-Qaeda link to Palestinians........by way of deception..........ever heard of the lavan affair or 9/11 maybe?

Did you know that despite these tough economic times, the US government is giving Israel $4 billion dollars this year?
Ya, billion...........


You are being fooled, played and conned..........welcome to the new fascist amerika.........


http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/12/07/1038950239070.html

Mr. G
12-07-02, 03:15 PM
Not much different than you "doing nothing useful by way of ignorance and prejudice".

Perhaps you can share with us how you are personally working to make Amerika a better America by your deeds, and not just your utterances.

But then, that's much harder than flapping your arms and telling people you're flying.

spookz
12-07-02, 04:26 PM
jandts canadian

Mr. G
12-07-02, 05:32 PM
Yes. I know he is not a US citizen.

And some of his countrymen, with the strength of their convictions, have gone to Baghdad to be human shields while he hangs here merely talking up his convictions.

There's nothing wrong with talking, but doing tends to speak more eloquently and is more likely to garner at least grudging respect.

Maia
12-07-02, 05:36 PM
Cmon jandt, be a MAN and face Bush in a duel!!! :p

Mr. G
12-07-02, 11:32 PM
Maia:

By now you have realized that jandt is only spectator material.

Adam
12-08-02, 03:14 AM
Originally posted by Mr. G
By now you have realized that jandt is only spectator material.
... Says Mr G from the Members Stand...

jandt
12-08-02, 09:05 AM
personal attacks when the information is just too much to handle. I still try because there are always a few to be enlightened.

No one spoke to the actual subject of the thread, that 9/11 is another Israeli Mossad black op.

"I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it."-- Ariel Sharon to Shimon Peres, October 3rd, 2001, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.


http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=1867737&fromEmail=true

Vortexx
12-08-02, 09:21 AM
mmm not likely, even the pakistani shouted on the streets that INDIA did 9/11 to fuel anger against muslims. Every party seems to want to have "their intepretation" of events that fits their way of thinking.

If you consider the money israel gets from the usa every year, you would allmost believe that some Jewish wall street guys run the show behind the screens in america, but I don't believe this for at the same time america kept sponsoring the saudis for over 40 years, buying their oil....

No , maybe the freemasons running the show , making money while their opponents (the cristians, jewish and muslims) eat eachother....

Adam
12-08-02, 09:34 AM
Thanks for that news article.

jandt
12-08-02, 09:35 AM
Whenever Israel starts killing everyone, Bush and the state department ask ever so nicely for them to stop. But think about it, Bush could just call up Sharon and say, "listen Ariel, stop killing everyone or I won't send you the FOUR BILLION DOLLARS we are giving you this year."


It is all just one big scam.



http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/blackmail.html

Vortexx
12-08-02, 09:37 AM
11/9 was merely a miscalculation of the american divide et empera policy, for you can control other governments, but not the twisted religious individual. Now that nuclear devices allmost become mainstream commodity, I think the policy must be re-evaluated before another miscalaculation will happen.

jandt
12-08-02, 09:37 AM
Have you seen www.whatreallyhappened.com

This site is without a doubt the best resource on the state of international events since 9/11.

jandt
12-08-02, 09:39 AM
You did not look at the info, couldn't have, so you are just repeating your thoughts without any new insight. Why even bother posting???


9/11 wasn't merely anything.

Vortexx
12-08-02, 09:40 AM
Whoever plays these games, it is getting too dangerous and out of hand!!! What will all their money buy them if the shops are reduced to nuclear ashes etc..?

Adam
12-08-02, 09:45 AM
Rather than conspiracies, I prefer to call it all bullshit. And unfortunately, every scrap of bullshit is built on a real corpse, making it hard to deny. There is easily more bullshit than truth in international relations, politics, and history. All the facts are there, but the truth built out of it all is crap.

One of the joys of being in the military is that you get to see things the public never will, and it sheds new light on it all.

jandt
12-08-02, 09:51 AM
Why not call it conspiracy?

That is what it is.


conspiracy

n 1: a secret agreement between two or more people to perform an unlawful act [syn: confederacy] 2: a plot to carry out some harmful or illegal act (especially a political plot) [syn: cabal] 3: a group of conspirators banded together to achieve some harmful or illegal purpose

Adam
12-08-02, 09:56 AM
I call it bullshit because usually what people label the conspiracy is bullshit too. Everything is. If you uncover a lie and find something hidden beneath it, no doubt what you find will be bullshit too.

Vortexx
12-08-02, 10:10 AM
OK, I will start buying AMDOCS stocks as I am sure they got the "leverage" to survive the downturn in telecom industry,

BTW , like the CIA has been linked to cocaine traffic as an alternative source for funding, they kinda link the mossad to XTC traffic, if so than I am sure there must be dutch guys involved as well.

Vortexx
12-08-02, 10:19 AM
Wich leads to the following question:

Are these intelligence services just working for ruthless right-wing governments and/or they are just instruments of highly organised crime???

Bit of Both i suspect....

Vortexx
12-08-02, 10:33 AM
speaking of drug-traffic .... In Holland there seem to be some special problem lately in villages that have a lot of fishing-industry (volendam / spakenburg etc). A lot of money is made there and the kids sniff coke like we drink beer. Now the interesting part is that I am wondering if they are only catching fish at sea!

I mean some of their trawlers go even as far as south-amerika and new-foundland to catch (bring?) the "fish".

Can any of you canadians tell me something fishy about the possible Dutch discobiscuits connection?

jandt
12-09-02, 08:08 AM
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html

spookz
12-09-02, 10:14 AM
jandt

so you gonna to start vomiting neo nazi propaganda anytime soon?



:D

jandt
12-09-02, 10:17 AM
This article was originally was written in response to efforts to conceal the Israeli spy scandal, the largest spy ring ever uncovered in the United States, behind cries of "hate" and "anti-Semite". I am not "anti-Jewish", I am anti-espionage. There's a difference. I don't blame the Jewish people for the crimes of the Israeli government and the Mossad any more than I blame Americans for the crimes of the United States Government and the CIA. Israel's supporters constantly spin any criticism of Israel's actions as hate against the Jewish people. Indeed so desperate are Israel's supporters to dismiss criticism of Israel while being unable to refute the actual facts that they have taken to describing Jewish critics of Israel as "self-hating Jews."

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hatespeech.html

Adam
12-09-02, 10:24 AM
Israel is a horrible state. They kill civilians constantly, occupy parts of neighbouring nations, torture people, and attempt assassinations. For a long time, they have simply said "You're another Hitler!!!" if anyone pointed out their criminal behaviour. It happens all the time on message boards. If you point out any facts about Israel, people call you a NAZI. They have no basis in reality for saying it, but they say it anyway.

1) Someone presents a fact about Israel.
2) Some idiot yells "RACIST!" and points a finger, hoping the moronic masses will start with the "boo, hiss!" crap.
3) In the tumult, the facts are drowned out.

Israel has been using that for decades to cover their atrocities.

jandt
12-09-02, 10:29 AM
read the above post re: anti semitism

it is refreshing to see someone else knows this ploy is used.

www.whatreallyhappened.com has tons of Israeli Mossad misdeeds if you are interested. Do you know about the Mossad spy ring that was busted around 9/11? Fox did a four part news story on this then spiked it. Amazing info that the rest of the mainstream press ignored and speaks volumes to what is going on today in american and international politics.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring.html

spookz
12-09-02, 10:30 AM
happy to oblige

i kinda admire your enthusiasm.
i have to advise you tho to keep a bag packed at all times to expedite a quick getaway. throw the occasional "glance over the shoulder." trust no one. use public phones. (i am sure you know the drill)

take care now




:D

firdroirich
12-11-02, 07:16 PM
Haha Spookz, that's the nail on the head:D

To anyone who would listen - Use your conscious as a compass to avoid being conquered by nonsense.



:m:

Vortexx
12-12-02, 04:23 AM
So where does your conscious compass has it's north pole?

Jeruzalem ????

If you think this whatreallyhappened site is a bunch of non-sense than I am sure it would be no problem at all for you to debunk these "ridiculous" stories ?

Apparently it is easier to shove off criticism as coming from Nazis etc...