Bush's Brain in a Fishbowl: Karl Rove's Blunder.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by hypewaders, Jul 17, 2005.

  1. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    With undeniable satisfaction, I have been watching Karl Rove become the recipient of identical attack politics as he built his own career upon. THere is poetic justice that the same tactics Rove employed so deftly in neutralizing rivals and installing neocons in high places are now turned upon the dark master.

    While Rove may worm through the present unwelcome attention, here's hoping we are witnessing a shift to the defensive on the part of the Busheviks, because their mastermind has been damaged by his own hypocrisy, and a shift that may lessen the Busheviks'ability to further damage America's future.

    The true machinery of US government is for the moment a little more prominent, when the press at large is (for the first time) following a lead that is turning out to be critical of the Bush Administration insiders. I hope that this will awaken more Americans to the cold, calculated campaign of deception that Rove and his cabal used to play on American emotions and ignorance. I hope that this will at last break the spell of the corporate agents who have been hiding behind our flag, and rallying our most fervent and blind patriotism for a misbegotten secret agenda.
     
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  3. dsdsds Valued Senior Member

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    Hi hype,
    Don't you think Joseph Wilson is a "true American Hero" (as stated by President George H. W. Bush in 1991)? First standing up to Saddam Hussein and now George W. Bush’s White House. I find he's been tactful and unrelenting and basically driving this whole thing. A lesser man would have crumbled a long time ago.
     
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  5. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    Certainly a loyal American citizen in my opinion. His and his wife's treatment by this administration is another clear indicator of the character of the GW Bush team. I fear that Americans are losing the ability to recognize a patriot, instead being mesmerized by cunning imposters.

    "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it."
    - Edward R. Murrow
     
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  7. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    Today I listened on AM radio to Michael Savage, as he called for Rove to resign, and as he criticized the futility and micro-management of the occupation of Iraq (not his words, but that was the gist). Michael savage is criticising the very center of neocon power. That has certainly not occured before. I also listened to Rush babbling in a panicked way about how it's all just crazy, crazy, - don't listen to the lefty Democrat provocatuers among us (paraphrasing again).

    Behold: The Tipping Point- not only in the polls, but even in the media, that I and many other caring Americans have been anticipating for more than two long years now. Even the White House Press Corps are beginning to behave like journalists.

    We were hopeful a year ago: "Like the situation in Iraq, an excruciatingly slow tipping point is occuring, where Americans are doubting what the Bush Administration has been telling us."

    I was full of hope, and stating the obvious more than 2 1/2 years ago "WTC attack - no Iraqi participation...WMDs - no Iraqi threat to US."

    It's been so long coming, and it's worth celebrating a bit. Even though there will still be much hell to pay. The wheels are finally coming off a protofascist juggernaut that would have ended in a fatal collision with reality for American democracy and the stability and prosperity of the entire planet- had the neocons not been so superficial in their understanding of the world beyond their narrow profiteering horizons, and had they not been so inept at following through with marketing naked fascism (which would be eagerly lapped up by many exceptionalist Americans).

    Had Rove posessed the evil genius of Goebbels, and W. any genius at all, we Americans would never have known what hit us. We would be forthwith goose-stepping our way to our own Gotterdammerung in the near future.

    But the Busheviks are going down, because the curtains are being swept aside in Oz, and Bush's brain is finally being exposed at last. And the logical bankrupcy of neoconservatism's millions of duped followers, who a year ago tacitly accepted the big bait-and switch over the Iraq debacle: "Just this morning, the White House issued the latest slow evolution of the Mantra, that the USA is building democracies to stop terrorism, and that anger and terrorism are the result of not installing governments in foreign lands. Democracy is the anti-terrorism: You haven't seen terrorism in America have you? Wait a minute... Maybe a Bushevik is thinking... Nope- they're gone."

    Soon, they will be. All of them, just like all the McCarthy followers who faded into the sunset. Yes there's still hope for America, and for true conservatism.

    I'll piss on your grave, Karl Rove.
     
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  8. crazy151drinker Registered Senior Member

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    I HATE Rove. He and Rummy should be shot.
     
  9. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    Something we can finally agree on.

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  11. SpyMoose Secret double agent deer Registered Senior Member

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    I strongly disagree with this statement. What Rove-like attacks has Rove been the victem of? All I see is a federal prosecutor who has gotten incriminating testimony about him, and the news reporting on it. Wouldn't somone have to... you know, come up with a dirty trick for his tactics to be said to have been used against him? Like, if the democrats had started a rumor that he sleeps with underaged crackwhores... you know that kind of thing.
     
  12. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    As the story resurfaced recently, it seemed to me that Democrats and other political opponents of Rove were going to take up the controversy, and keep it in the news with a steady stream of hints and allegations, as in Republican smear campaigns. It would have been only natural in Washington. I don't believe that Republicans loyal to neoconservatism are the only people in Washington who are practised at gutter politics, although Rove has been a master of character assassination.

    But I was wrong, as you have pointed out, Spymoose- "identical attack politics" was way off the mark. This story is largely being left unhyped by opposition, and is being kept tightly under wraps by the White House. However, should there be further revelations harmful to Rove, then perhaps attack politics will return. Not that I so much welcome it in general, but that it would please me to seer Rove on the receiving end for a change.

    As with their inability to raise up a candidate publicly opposed to Bush's hotwiring of Americn fear and patriotism; as with their ineptitude at articulating what is wrong with the Patriot Acts; as with their inability to raise up a voice clearly opposed to the neoconservatives' Iraq misadventure- The Dem's lack of will to fight in the political trenches seems more indicative of their disarray than their high ideals.

    I should stick to the hope that opponents of our Bushevik malady will rally for our cause without sinking to attack politics. But in Rove's case, an appetite for irony and revenge did bring out the worst in me. Here's to a clean, non-vindictive removal of these crooks from the helm of our country. Yes, we shall overcome while taking the highroad.

    So anyway, do tell again: You heard that Rove sleeps with underage crackwhores?
     
  13. mephistobane Registered Member

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    can anyone fill me in on the background of what hypewaders just said? i know bush is...just...retared,but what hype said,i have no idea...."WTF? ><"
     
  14. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    You could review how smear tactics have been employed by Washington sharks in the past when blood was sensed in the water. You might Google "Joe McCarthy", "Whitewater", "Travelgate", "Troopergate", "Lewinsky", "Anita Hill", "Swift Boat Veterans", "Scott Ritter" "Paul O'neill", "Richard Clarke" and "Hans Blix" for examples.

    A quick review of the more vicious American mudslinging of the past at first left me wondering why a figure like Rove is not under a massive barrage of smear, once he was shoved off balance. He certainly has many enemies, but there are surprisingly few people coming out with smears against him, baseless or not.

    Maybe the answer is in the precipitous fall of that prototypical smear-master Joe McCarthy. He was in the end his own undoing, and perhaps Karl Rove will be too. There are deep enough rumblings over this story that Rove's most bitter foes may be sensing a watershed event is imminent, and they are waiting as I am to see what happens next.
     
  15. Mr.Jack4WAR Hating the Hated Registered Senior Member

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    yea i still have no clue where hypewaders stands on political issues
     
  16. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    Gotta love INDEPENDENTS.

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  17. Hurricane Angel I am the Metatron Registered Senior Member

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    All the media stopped talking about Karl Rove, somebody wants you to forget.
     
  18. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    No, when the media stops talking about such a "scandal" it means that they can't find anything of substance in order to keep digging. Can't keep broadcasting the same bullshit day after day ...they need something new, substantial, and can't find it.

    If you really think that the liberal media dogs have been "called off" by someone/some group, then I feel sorry for you. Can you imagine the difficulty in some group trying to "call off" the news media? That would mean that gazillions of people would have to remain silent ...do you think that's even remotely possible in the USA?

    Baron Max
     
  19. Skylark Registered Senior Member

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    We must be watching or listening to different 'media'.
     
  20. top mosker Ariloulaleelay Registered Senior Member

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    Is a white girl missing on a tropical island really that much more important?
     
  21. mikasa11 Registered Senior Member

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    Who in the world do you define as "Liberal Media"?
     
  22. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Since TV news among all networks is run by a total of six people, it wouldn't be too hard.
     
  23. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, but how many people would know about it and tell the "scandal sheets" or some of the independent newspapers and TV and radio? How could you possibly keep something like that a secret? Please tell me that!

    Baron Max
     

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