This absolutely sickens me and is one of the biggest reasons I can't abide W... http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/20767.html
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That's what it was and that's what W is fighting. No other president in recent history had to deal with ANYTHING like 911. Different game.
Sandy...Bush is just using 911 as an excuse. He is deliberately making it a big scene and I wouldnt be surprised if CIA knew of the upcoming 911 attacks and did nothing because it was instructed so from higher ground.
clinton did the trade center was attacked then. and you do not use terrorism to combat terrorism which is what bush is doing
Oh for God's sake, get a freakin clue. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Evil terrorists hijacked OUR planes and flew them into OUR skyscrapers killing/injuring over 10,000 people. Many are still dying from their injuries. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! 911 was and IS a "big scene". We will NEVER forget and we will never stop fighting these vile enemies until every last one of them is destroyed. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! We will destroy the enemy. Talking/negotiating with them is NOT an option.
bush is using terrorism against the people of the us to get what he wants. and i want to get the assholes who attacked us on 9/11 thats why we should be in afganistan. i belive the death toll from 9/11 was around 4000. you cannot destroy every single one . for the idea will always exist and you cannot destroy an idea. this is not a war that can be won with bullets and bombs it can only truely be won with ideas
Except, Sandy, much of the budget that he has signed off on has included billion upon billions of pork which, if he forced Congress to trim, would have resulted in a much lower budget. Moreover, the entire affair of us being in Iraq has turned out to be bunk-- that alone would have saved this country the better part of a trillion dollars now. 911 isn't a blank check for the president to spend whatever he wants on whatever foolhearty affair he feels like. All that money spent in Iraq, if spent on internal security (like REALLY beefing up airport security-- just imagine what a hundred billion dollars could have bought!) and if spent on things like increasing the size of the CIA manforce around the world, would have made the USA far safer than the current abortion in Iraq has. ~String
The Iraq war had nothing to do with 911. If anybody really wants to know why we occupied Iraq, then they should read the incredibly boring "Project For A New American Century" because that is where the Bush team explained their foreign policy theories in a semi candid fashion before they knew that they would actually come to power. 911 enabled the Bush team to attempt to carry out the PNAC objectives. I think the PNAC / Neocon* objectives where silly and trying to implement them increases rather than decreases the likelihood of the USA becoming the victim of future terrorist attacks worse than 911. *( I use the pre-2000 definition of Neocon, The word used to mean something before politically ignorant liberals started misusing the word.) If we don't stop being stupid, then the backlash against the the Neocon* Agenda will probably be worse than the backlash's against the Dulles brothers interference in the internal affairs of other nations. It is one thing for a people to tolerate the despotic rule of their local dictator or the rule of their local special interests but it is something else to tolerate the despotic rule of a foreign imposed puppet dictator or the rule of foreign special interests. The more the world's people absorbs the the American values of freedom and self-rule the more the world's people become unwilling to be indirectly ruled by by America or any other foreign power even if we try to rule subtly and benignly from behind the scenes. Even though our / the NeoCons basic intentions are just and decent our government is not capable of saying no to our special interests so even the most generous of NeoCon intentions towards Iraq or any other American dominated nation will eventually give way to despotism. We will be blamed. Saddam was such a bad ruler; who would have thought that American rule would be so much worse than rule by Saddam? The Bush team has so many conflicting goals and they are basically incompetent and bit of much more than they could chew. Do we really want to try and run the world when we can't even run Iraq? We must say no to the Neocons. Unfortunately as best I can tell the Clintons, like Bush senior are Neocon Light and will not throughly abandon the Idea that the fall of the Berlin wall created the oppurtunity to create Pax American. Rather than following the NeoCon/ PNAC plan of stalling off an inevitable showdown with China by America's gaining an intimidating control of the Persian Gulf oil states I would have preferred a foreign policy that presumes that humans (including the Chinese) are capable and willing to work together to create a peaceful cooperative world. Horrible WMD technology will proliferate. We can't stop that proliferation by dominating the world. The Iranian regime needs DMD because we seek to dominate them. If we back off the Iranian people will eventually moderate the Iranian government. Our aggressiveness is what makes Iran dangerous and is what makes the Iranian people support their regime. War is such a waste of money. If we humans were not such stupid nasty aggressive animals then we could create a paradise on earth for ourselves. We have the technology. We can overcome the problems that global warming will create. If war and attempts at domination are truly inevitable parts of the human character as the PNAC/ NeoCon crowd says they are then our species is damned to endless suffering. Sandy, I consider your misguided beliefs, Bush's misguided beliefs and whoever or whatever led to your and Bush's beliefs to be a larger threat to American national Security than violent Islamic Extremism is. You folks will turn your will turn your fears into a self-fulfilling prophesy if the rest of us Americans let your types control American foreign policy.
See the above, Sandy. You need to read the story. It talks about defense spending and says there's plenty of domestic increases that out pace LBJ and other recent presidents. This is the Republicans problem. They just can't admit/accept that they have governed like crap and that's why they got booted from office. Um, they might be foolish policies, but more of a threat than Islamic extremism that wants to impose Sharia law on the world and kill all the unbelievers? Sorry, I think not...
Bush is spending out of control and so is both political partys. The idea that the US has to spend so much more money to fight people with box cutters than we did during the cold war with the Soviet Union is laughable. Someone wants the US to spend itself into oblivion for some unholy reason. We're well on our way there. I recently heard a few guys who love face time with news cameras will not be running for the Federal Senate in the next election despite them being almost guaranteed to win. Wonder why someone would pass that up. The tired cogs of a passing age are slowly winding down...
desi...whats laughable? an enemy you cannot see and identify or an enemy that can clearly be seen and identified?
Battalions of tanks, fleets of ships with planes on them, million dollar laser guided missiles, and regiments of infantry all at the ready to go fight clusters of people hidden in apartments making bombs out of $20 worth of explosives.
this is a war like none other won that must be fought with ideas to fight with weapons as the main thrust is a path that will lead to ruin
Freedom is Slavery War is peace Ignorance is Strength this will soon be the PNAC's battle cry and no one will recognise it because the schools don't teach it anymore...
The religious extremism is a phase that the whole world is going through. In India Hindu fundamentalism is scary. The Christian Zionists whack jobs on TV who are so eager to see World War Three so that they can be raptured up into heaven are scary. The left and socialism failed to fix all that is wrong with the world so now it is the religious fundamentalists turn to try to fix the world. They also will fail. Iran was first and the religious fundamentalists are already recognized as a failure there. Something else will arise for the people to pin their hopes on after they see that religious fundamentalism fails as badly as socialism did to fix what is wrong in our society's. If we don't help the Islamic extremists by proving them right about the evilness of the West then the Islamic extremist phase will pass. What we should do is let the Islamic people know that we also are concerned about the amorality of Hollywood and Wall Street. We need to let the Islamic people know that we have no intention to dominate them or their governments. Right now we are helping the Islamic Extremists by us frothing at the mouth like rabid dogs and getting nutty about them. I see NeoCon Extremists, Christian extremists, and American Exceptionalism Super Patriot Extremists all as being greter threats to American national security than Islamic extremists are. Most democracies that collapsed, collapsed from internal threats, not from external threats. We are provoking Islamic extremism. Let's stop doing that. The Islamic extremists are actually less interested in dominating us than we are interested in dominating them. Let the Islamic people work out their own problems and they will let us work out our own problems.
Sadly, The west will do anything to maintain a dominant position, and winning the hearts and minds was never a tacit strategy. Living amongst Australians, I know that many of them are nice, warm friendly people, who know that the things on TV don't reflect real life. It is the system of oppressing the people in order to maintain power and strength that causes extremism. Ordinary everyday muslims, that aren't overly religious (Koran thumping) are quite friendly and proud to be Australian. I agree, democracies were killed from within, one only needs to look far back as Nazi Germany to do that.
